Is it Pedophilia When someone is attracted to an Anime Character?

Shinra Executive said:
As opposed to what?
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Shinra Executive said:
They all involve mutilation and desecration of the body. Transsexuals have an average lifespan of 30 years begining either at birth or post-surgery. It is an astonishing fact that goes astonishingly ignored. Homosexuals destroy their bodies, and HIV and otherwise AIDS spreads around the homosexual community like a plague. A good percentage of homosexuals have been married or are married- with children. And their children have to live with that.

So what is so horrible about pedophilia over them? There isn't- they are all the same, driven by a like carnal screw that unbolted.
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So do piercings, does that make them just as bad? :hmmm:

Why are they being brought into this? It's not their fault that they were born that way...

You mean like STDS ALL over the world? It's not just in the gay community, it's everywhere...

That is the faulting of poor sexual education and not taking care of your body. It has NOTHING to do with being gay... Are you going to bash straight parents with HIV/AIDS as well? Because it's not just the gay community...

It's like comparing apples to oranges. It's like comparing the death penalty to murder. (Idc if that's a bad analogy or not)

Two consenting adults having sex is the same as a man or woman having sex with a child? According to a religious point of view MAYBE... :hmmm:
 
Shinra Executive said:
In other words, you have no defense.
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If that's how you want to see it, that's cool. We already see how warped your view is so it doesn't matter to me.

Watching a child cartoon or not, and getting off on them in my eyes is a very worrying thing, and if you think it's nothing bad then that's your (very worrying and very disturbing) opinion
 
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I don't think he's saying paedophilia isn't wrong, he's saying it's comparable to homosexuality in a way, and that they are both wrong.
 
Hayley Williams said:


So do piercings, does that make them just as bad? :hmmm:
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Piercings don't result in rectal hemorrhage and a constant assault on the bodies immune system.


Why are they being brought into this? It's not their fault that they were born that way...
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So homosexuals are born attracted to the same sex but pedophiles are not born attracted to children? Please enlighten me on this scientific founding.

You mean like STDS ALL over the world? It's not just in the gay community, it's everywhere...
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It is far more denser in the homosexual community. Statistics will show that quite clearly. Why do you think that is? Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that they just want to get their rocks off regardless of another person's well-being, could it? Kinda like pedophiles, you see.

That is the faulting of poor sexual education and not taking care of your body.
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I think if anybody needs an education on sexuality, it's anyone who disagrees with what I have posted thus far. Because it's all sound observation.

 
Shinra Executive said:
If I had a nickel for every time a person attempted to win this argument by stating what you just stated. Do you have any real defense at all, or do you have no choice then to fall back on the lousy comment you just made?

I look at sexuality the same way a psychologist would. You look at it in the politically correct fashion, or as I like to call it, the delusional way.
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Political correctness has nothing to do with it. How are we the delusional ones when we think it's wrong to oogle or fantacize about children in an illicit way :wacky: *I* wouldn't be considering seeing a psychologist about my political correctness, I'd rather have a psychologist see why it is someone needs to view children as a fullfillment to their sexual perversions as opposed to finding a mate that is their own age and able to consent to their sexual needs.

I'd venture to guess that people who need to look at child porn have some fetish or something they are trying to fulfill, and whether or not one of US thinks that is right or wrong, has nothing to do with it. It's when that person takes the next possible step and decides to act on those decisions...and if that person doesn't think looking at porn is wrong, do you really think that same person is going to have the ability to NOT think it's wrong when they abduct a child and rape them or etc...? I suppose you know the exact line these people have before they eventually crack and can't contain their actions to merely just visual porn to satisfy themselves. ...and I suppose the thought of a child pedophile coaching your child during gym class or working at your child's daycare just sends the thought of rainbows and butterflies through your head?

Who is going to speak for the children? What about their rights? Naturally, they don't have any. We are supposed to be the ones with morals, as adults. ...although with society being what it is today I suppose we are too far gone for all of that.
 
Hey folks, can we get back on track with the original point of the topic please? Homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia, so to go back to the thread title:

"Is it pedophilia when someone is attracted to an anime character?"

Thank you :)

EDIT: exactly mel. Exactly :ninja:
 
"Piercings don't result in rectal hemorrhage and a constant assault on the bodies immune system."

Thats really no one elses business but their own.


"So homosexuals are born attracted to the same sex but pedophiles are not born attracted to children? Please enlighten me on this scientific founding."

Theres a film called "Deliver Us From Evil" that I think you should take a look at. It does not answer this question, but it will give you something to think about...


"It is far more denser in the homosexual community. Statistics will show that quite clearly. Why do you think that is? Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that they just want to get their rocks off regardless of another person's well-being, could it? Kinda like pedophiles, you see."

Most men are pigs. THATS why. But you are grouping homosexuals as all terrible heartless AIDS ridden individuals. Thats not the case. Also, a child has no real say one way or the other. Gay people know/should know what they are getting into when they are going to have sex.

"I think if anybody needs an education on sexuality, it's anyone who disagrees with what I have posted thus far. Because it's all sound observation."

Or anyone who has the claims to back it up. Since I'm growing weary of this and don't care to look anything else up about it for counter claims (not that I was anyway), I'm going to leave it at this and let you feel free to quote me again. But I will not be responding to it.
 
As Greeny said, return to the topic at hand. The discussion is concerning why/why not it is okay to be attracted to an anime child, not homosexuality. It's fine to compare the two if you have a point to make as long as you remain respectful in it.

Also, it is NOT okay to start bashing someone because they have different views than your own on the topic.

This is the final warning, and further derailing/digs will be infracted.
 
Jolly Boots of Doom said:
You seem to think and delude yourself that you can get away with pedophilia because its your preference. Well, time to burst your bubble, bub--you're wrong. when what you like involves hurting someone else, your needs and wants are overlooked.
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I never said pedophilia was okay. I simply put it in the same boat as all other harmful sexual preferences, because they all do harm. You have a preposition that homosexuality and transexualism is okay, and therefore cannot fathom the idea that everything outside of mature heterosexuality is propelled by a same deviated mindset.
And so, you and several other posters have resorted to fallacious logic and straw men- outright bashing actually- to simmer up an argument.

But a moderator has already said that this is off topic, so I am just going to leave it at that. The original point I was trying to make was that anime child pornography does not harm anyone anymore then, let's say, homosexual porn harms victims in prison. If the reason why pedophilia is wrong is because it hurts a child, then the carnal desire alone is just a fantasy much like any other sexuality. I'm going to wager that anyone who gets off on child porn isn't really thinking about causing harm, but simply getting their rocks off. A homosexual person may fantasize about having sex with a straight person, and even though it would hurt the person, they don't desire to hurt them- only get their rocks off.

You see, there's a big symmetry there. Anime porn, in itself, is a fantasy- an impossible fantasy at that. So why even make a distinction if the anime depicts a child or an adult? Obviously, if they are pertaining to that rather then hunting for actual kiddie porn, then there is an entirely different desire going on in their head.

I have officially put this thread back on topic. Fire away :neomon:
 
The national age of consent in Japan is 13 (though individual regions can set it for themselves) so in a lot of these paedophilic hentai you're talking about, it's probably not really paedophilia for them. Most of the other reasons relating to the differences between CP and hentai have already been made multiple times
 
i would still say it would not make a person a paedophile if they did enjoy this. it's a strange thing to get off on (to my mind) but not any stranger (to me) than pretty much any fetish porn you can think of.

i think one point i missed out last time was that it is not illegal to be a paedophile. if someone who is attracted to pre pubescent children molests a child then they have broken the law, but until they harm a child all they are doing is fantasising, while disturbing, there is fortunately no such thing as thought crime (unless you happen to be religious).

i would also still argue that as we are not dealing with real people, theyre not even remotely anatomically correct beyond having 2 arms, 2 legs and a head. with that you have quite a long way to go to prove that if someone gets off on this they will necessarily be attracted to children. i wouldnt encourage someone to watch it for any sort of entertainment in the same way that i wouldnt encourage someone to watch some other fetish porn, but i wouldnt condone the restriction of something just because i find it a bit strange. even if someone who watched this anime was a paedophile ie attracted to pre pubescent kids, so long as they aren't harming any children (that includes by supporting the creation of child porn) their affliction is confined solely to their mind and i do not think thoughts should be policed.
 
To me, claiming that watching young anime girls in compromising positions is like saying that somebody liking Jennifer Lawrence from X-Men: First Class means they're attracted to all women with blonde hair. What you watch for entertainment or pleasure is different from what you really desire. If it wasn't, then anyone who loaded up a copy of Grand Theft Auto would want to run around their city, killing and stealing, and Jack Thompson would have been right all along.
 
That's a tough one however since they are not real people and just characters I do not count it as podphilia
 
NO.

I like Lolis but im not a Pedo, where i live is a paradise for pedos as most children around here are naked because of very poor families and im not turned on one bit i even avert my eyes of disgust while i can stare a hot Loli for long periods.

those are anime characters wich have different perception than real people, i like those big eyes of Lolis absent in real people for example.
 
I don't think it's pedophilia. See, there's a difference between getting off to fictional characters than it is to real people. Most people who like that media know pretty well the difference between the characters and real children, and are very disgusted by the idea of having sex with real children. To be perfectly honest, if you think these people don't know the difference, you must be... out of this world, to say the least.

(and just to add, the age of consent in Brazil is 14 years old)
 
Yes, I consider it pedophilia. Just because it is fantasy and does not 'hurt' anyone does not erase the fact that it is about being attracted to a child. I find it wrong that people would call something like that a kink. Being attracted to beings much younger than yourself is not a kink, it is pedophilia plain and simple. Is incest right just because it's fictional? Is bestiality right when it's used in fiction? In my opinion - no, it is not. It is what it is.
 
Shinra Executive said:
I never said pedophilia was okay. I simply put it in the same boat as all other harmful sexual preferences, because they all do harm. You have a preposition that homosexuality and transexualism is okay, and therefore cannot fathom the idea that everything outside of mature heterosexuality is propelled by a same deviated mindset.
And so, you and several other posters have resorted to fallacious logic and straw men- outright bashing actually- to simmer up an argument.
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I see your point and to some point even agree with it, but it is still silly.
Homosexuality, transvestism and most paraphilias that you can think of still are somewhat based on consent. Those that are not based on consent are generally criminal or for the most part, deemed immoral. In the case of pedophilia, that consent is not the case as the object is not legally capable of giving said consent, in the way two adults are. Perhaps you can make an argument that pedophilia is a biological "anomaly" just like homosexuality or being left-handed is, but the social implications are severely different.

That said, a non-impulsive pedophile that does not act upon his desires just fine.


But a moderator has already said that this is off topic, so I am just going to leave it at that. The original point I was trying to make was that anime child pornography does not harm anyone anymore then, let's say, homosexual porn harms victims in prison. If the reason why pedophilia is wrong is because it hurts a child, then the carnal desire alone is just a fantasy much like any other sexuality. I'm going to wager that anyone who gets off on child porn isn't really thinking about causing harm, but simply getting their rocks off. A homosexual person may fantasize about having sex with a straight person, and even though it would hurt the person, they don't desire to hurt them- only get their rocks off.
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Perhaps. I still think it's a bit of a slippery slope to suggest such material wouldn't in turn, incite people. As an example, people scoff at the idea of pornography causing rape. Perhaps not directly, but it's plain and obvious the oversexualisation of everything in general with objectification of women through porn too ... is slight cause for that.


You see, there's a big symmetry there. Anime porn, in itself, is a fantasy- an impossible fantasy at that. So why even make a distinction if the anime depicts a child or an adult? Obviously, if they are pertaining to that rather then hunting for actual kiddie porn, then there is an entirely different desire going on in their head.

I have officially put this thread back on topic. Fire away :neomon:
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That would still make one a pedophile, no?

If you rape children, you are above all a pedophile, but you are officially classified as a criminal and a rapist.
If you lust children, you are above all a pedophile, regardless of do you act upon these impulses or not.


I think it's also interesting how people say this isn't related to pedophilia because "it's fiction". Well, so is adult pornography, at least for the most part. It's manufactured by people, who do not engage in it for pleasure or to document reality. It's no more or less fiction than anime is (or whatever you call that stuff).
 
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I think it's also interesting how people say this isn't related to pedophilia because "it's fiction". Well, so is adult pornography, at least for the most part. It's manufactured by people, who do not engage in it for pleasure or to document reality. It's no more or less fiction than anime is (or whatever you call that stuff).
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I also find that interesting and quite frankly scary. Paedophilia is not something that happens overnight, it is a process that begins with a fantasy which is outside the norm and rejected. (EG A paedophile finds themselves aroused by the thought of a child, but rejects it)
Then the fantasy is explored then normalised. (EG A paedophile finds this feeling returning so channels it into, say, watching and fantasising about fictional anime characters)
The new norm becomes acceptable (EG A paedophile considers that he/she can't be the only one to feel this way because there is anime that caters to it. And if they aren't the only one then it's ok.)
The paedophile justifies acting on their feelings (EG They tell themselves that it's better that child X has their first sexual experience with the paedophile to protect them or that child Y is in some way asking for it by being flirtatious or that child Z is deserving of it because it reinforces a 'special bond' - warped shit like that.)
The paedophile then works to separate the child, groom/silence them then the rest is a harrowing drama that you wish you'd never watched.

So yeah, I'd say that being attracted to a young anime character is part of the normalising process and so paedophilia and a step towards acting on it.
 
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