Crisis Core Is Cissnei of the Turks, Jessie of Avalanche?

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My friend told me that there was a rumor that Cissnei could possibly be Jessie, but I was pretty skeptical about it. Anyways I just looked both of them up on google and they do both have red hair lol. Well I just wanted to hear your opinions on whether this could be true or not.
 
I honestly don't know enough about the character, having never played BC or CC... but from what I've been able to read up on... it's not the same character. Their histories appear to be very different and their weapons are not at all the same either. It's an interesting rumor but I'd probably call it false, unless someone has some concrete evidence to suggest otherwise.
 
Apperently, Cissnei is unnamed in that mobile game that ive forgotten the name of, Before Crisis or some shit, so when she says tht she never got to tell Zack her real name it basically means that her name is just what the player gave her in said mobile game, althoug I guess Jessie could be another fake name aswel.... >_>

I actually prefer the idea of her being Jessie than just some random turk that dissapears, at least you would know why she never reappears again, I just think it's dioubtful....good idea though and it makes sense...I dunno D:
 
Interesting theory.

We never see Cissnei again after Crisis Core and we never hear of Jessie before the original game. I suppose it's possible that, after seeing everything that Shinra truly stands for, she converted from being employed by it to plotting to take it down. Jessie does appear to have an extensive knowledge of the Mako Reactors and the train systems (as you'd expect Cissnei to, having been employed by Shinra) and they both have the same colour of hair. I'd mention that Cloud and Jessie/Cissnei might recognise each other but, technically, Cloud never met Cissnei (to our knowledge) and it's possible that Cissnei didn't want to be tied to Shinra after joining AVALANCHE. Jessie's interest in Cloud might result from Cissnei's time with Zack.

It all adds up. :gasp:
 
Nah I highly doubt it's true. And in accordance to what Mischief said, her not having a 'real name' is simply as that. She doesn't have an actual name due to the fact that players must name her in Before Crisis - hence the reference she keeps trying to make in Crisis Core that 'Cissnei' is not her actual name. It does not relate to the plot of the game in any way, but rather as a reference to Before Crisis that Cissnei doesn't have a real name.

As for the appearances, sure they have the same colored hair, but that's pretty much it. Doesn't mean it has to have any meaning behind it. Yes it's an interesting theory but that's all there is to it - theory. =] I've researched this on google too and the majority's responses do make sense to counter this theory as well.
 
Lolwut? Nice to know people are still coming up with theories about FFVII, but I don't see this one. Jessie seemed more of an open, friendly character than Cissnei and I couldn't see her joining Avalanche. I really hope there isn't anything to this, because that would make Jessie another minor character with a stupid, complicated fanfiction past. Jessie > Cissnei anyday.
 
Its an impossibility. Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge were with Barret for a good while as a part of the new AVALANCHE, and Cissnei/Shuriken Female was still acting as a Turk mere days before the beginning of FF VII when her and the other BC Turks defeated Jade WEAPON.

Then theres the fact that in the epilogue of Before Crisis
come out of hiding to help evacuate Midgar.
Jessie was dead at this point.
 
The only thing that I know is that Cissnei simply faded to obscurity

She may had to face the consequences for disobeying a direct order and told Tseng that she lost the target (i.e. Zack and Cloud) and then provided them a vehicle. -- However, after reading a fan translation of BC where you play a unnamed Turk, there were 'personnel' issues of desertion as well.

Source: Before Crisis (Gunshot Romance)
 
Well, other people have given proof from the Ultimania Guides, but even without that, I never would have made the connection. Jessie the person, to me anyways, I don't think about after leaving Midgar and thereafter. And again, going back to the whole FFVII-made-before-BC-and-CC, I doubt Square would invest so much effort to give a random character like Jessie a background as a Turk like Cissnei :P

Oh, I had no idea Cissnei saying that wasn't her real name in CC was suppose to hint at BC; never played BC though xD
 
Hmm, that's an interesting theory you got there. To everyone else who doesn't believe in the theory, it's just a theory for God's sake. Let people be open minded about this one. Of all the things I've read about FFVII regarding theories, this has to be the most intriguing one I've ever come across. I can see the possible and impossible things about this one - but that means I'm not going to vote just yet.

For now, I could actually see the possibility of Cissnei being Jessie. It could explain a lot of things.
 
Where do you keep pulling these dates from? I've seen you do that several times.
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The Compilation Ultimania. Its a book from the creators that gives all kinds of details on the compilation, and in it there is a timeline of events.

Also, what led you to believe "Cissnei aids in the Midgar evac" at all? We never hear of her again after CC.
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Yes we do. Cissnei is also a character in Before Crisis, and in the epilogue of that game she and the other BC Turks help evacuate Midgar at Meteorfall.

Hmm, that's an interesting theory you got there. To everyone else who doesn't believe in the theory, it's just a theory for God's sake. Let people be open minded about this one. Of all the things I've read about FFVII regarding theories, this has to be the most intriguing one I've ever come across. I can see the possible and impossible things about this one - but that means I'm not going to vote just yet.

For now, I could actually see the possibility of Cissnei being Jessie. It could explain a lot of things.
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There's no reason to be open minded about something the creators of the material have confirmed false. There is simply no possibility of Jessie and Cissnei being the same person, as when Jessie was with Barret and the other, Cissnei was fighting Jade WEAPON as a Turk, and Jessie died weeks before CIssnei's last appearance.
 
No, although the way they look could be a misconception or confusion >,>

I highly doubt their the same person though, But that'd explain what happened to Cissnei:nudge:
 
Chowowa said:
Where do you keep pulling these dates from? I've seen you do that several times.
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U10 Ultimania. FF7 begins shortly after midnight on Dec9, the mission where Cloud falls happens sometime later that day, the Plate drop happens sometime the day after that, given Cloud spending the night and sneaking out later. All the Midgar events happen in rather rapid succesion.

Also, what led you to believe "Cissnei aids in the Midgar evac" at all? We never hear of her again after CC.
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BC Epilogue, as SOLDIERis1337 stated.
 
SOLDIERis1337 said:
There's no reason to be open minded about something the creators of the material have confirmed false. There is simply no possibility of Jessie and Cissnei being the same person, as when Jessie was with Barret and the other, Cissnei was fighting Jade WEAPON as a Turk, and Jessie died weeks before CIssnei's last appearance.
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It is unknown what became of her, since she is never seen or mentioned in Final Fantasy VII or any of its sequels. However, she does fight alongside her fellow Turks against Zirconiade in Before Crisis. After that remains a mystery, though it can be presumed that she battled Jade WEAPON alongside her fellow Turks in december of that year.
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Your assumption of Cissnei fighting Jade WEAPON remains to be an assumption. This hasn't been confirmed yet.
 
Your assumption of Cissnei fighting Jade WEAPON remains to be an assumption. This hasn't been confirmed yet.
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No, I'm afraid its canon. She was among the Turks that fought Zirconiade and then Jade WEAPON. This theory is about as valid as one that Tifa and Aerith are the same person.
 
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No, I'm afraid its canon. She was among the Turks that fought Zirconiade and then Jade WEAPON. This theory is about as valid as one that Tifa and Aerith are the same person.
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Give me proof then. We never see this onscreen whatsoever or have any references to Cissnei after Crisis Core.
 
...The BC epilogue isn't on screen? WEAPON mode isn't on screen? The BC turks as an aggregate are said to be targeted by Jade WEAPON for their role in Zirc's demise.

And there's keeping an open mind, and there's 'there's absolutely no gorram reason to believe this asinine nonsense is so. Like the Zangan/Bugenhagen nonsense some kid thought was the case, or R=U.

Seriously, folks, outside of 'durr, hair color', what, anywhere is there to connect Cissnei and Jessie. BTW, Zirconaide's death and WEAPON Mode are dated after Zack's death (End Sept.) but before the game start. WEAPON mode specifically occurs between 10/5 Zircy's death and 12/9 start of game. So, where is Cissnei expected to worm her way into the new AVALANCHE in the two months between Zirc's death and the start of game? Especially while Jade is hunting her and the rest of her comrades down and trying to kill them?
 
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