Serious I hate breast cancer awareness

[Harlequin]

the issue of african kiddies not being fed/educated is irrelevant. look at your own country before you think about other countries' problems. cancer undoubtedly causes i huge amount of pain both physically and mentally and not just to the sufferer, its not very nice to see someone you love having to suffer.

It's not irrelevant. The idea of giving to breast cancer is the same as giving to those who wouldn't receive an education or food; the idea of compassion and empathy.

I feel there is no poverty like ignorance, yet almost paradoxically you're only as wealthy as you feel. Shakespeare summed it up perfectly when he said a fool thinks himself a genius and a genius thinks himself a fool.

I do agree that it's never nice to see a family member go through a painful illness but ultimately I feel it would be selfish of me to push for a resolution to a problem I feel isn't as critical to our economy, society and self actualisation as education.

As for countries, I feel no deeper fraternity to my neighbour as I do to someone living in Tibet for example. I don't mean charity can't begin at home and I'm not saying we should give to starving Africans, its the cause I was referring to.

and yes tom, death is inevitable but we dont all have the comfort of believing our loved ones will go to heaven and live happily ever after. they dont have the comfort of an easy death either. its good to take an intellectual perspective on things, but that can make you seem quite cold when you apply it to a discussion like this.

I agree. I hadn't meant to take a cold approach to the subject but I feel that a brutal opinion will resonate with people more than one blunted by sentiment.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

economy, society and self actualisation as education.

despite popular belief all these things hold much less value than that of a life. and that rings very true if its someone you know thats suffering. to suggest that the financial state of a country is more important than the lives of those who generate the income for that country is ridiculous. you wont have an economy, a society or anyone to educate if you let them all die.

educating and feeding poor african kiddies can easily be solved with just one thing. money. you can throw as much money at cancer research as you like (and believe me people do) but money isnt the cure in this case. bono and his cronies could feed and educate africa ten times over. they dont. i'd rather wait for them to sort that particular problem just because they can afford to and i really cant.

ive done nothing to support the cause. ive hardly done anything charitable in my life, ive had family members die from various cancers, but i dont shoot down anyone else's effort and have a general attitude towards it all. you should try to be mature about stuff like this. if you havent got anything nice to say etc.

 

[Harlequin]

despite popular belief all these things hold much less value than that of a life. and that rings very true if its someone you know thats suffering. to suggest that the financial state of a country is more important than the lives of those who generate the income for that country is ridiculous. you wont have an economy, a society or anyone to educate if you let them all die.

Its a matter of perspective. People trade in lives everyday, try telling them the importance of life. I hadn't said that these factors were more important than a life itself, but that they are indeed the fabric in which life is sustained.

Without a balanced, functioning economy morality becomes less and less important, as exhibited in places like South Africa and Brazil for example. There's no cure for a bullet to the head.

Similarly, we are taught in this country in a very disciplined way because ultimately that is what makes an economy tick. There's no room for independent thought which makes the human mind stagnate. If you read the majority of the posts in the S Forest most members can't see past their own nose when it comes to concepts they haven't been taught in school.

There's too much 'what' and not enough 'why' in people's thought processes.

ive done nothing to support the cause. ive hardly done anything charitable in my life, ive had family members die from various cancers, but i dont shoot down anyone else's effort and have a general attitude towards it all. you should try to be mature about stuff like this. if you havent got anything nice to say etc.

I haven't shot anything down. If you read my first post in this thread I was advocating the raising of awareness. I don't understand how I've been immature nor where I've said anything unpleasant.

EDIT: I would seem I misread that last quote. My apologies if I have.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

it wasnt specifically directed at you. but feel free to take it whatever way you want.

and there is very little morality to be found in our economy. its just masked by the fact that we're not a third world country (though a certain catholic bishop would disagree with that).

i just firmly believe we should be dealing with the issues in our own domain before poking our noses in elsewhere. and breast cancer is a huge issue in britain. cancer in general is a huge issue everywhere because no matter how much money you have or can throw at it, it can get you.

 

[Harlequin]

I agree with the concepts in your post but not the means in which you would suggest those concepts be implemented.

What I meant about the effects of an economy on society is the desperation a poorly balanced economy can inspire in a society. Historians won't hesitate to give you a detailed analysis of how a faltering economy has almost always led to serious moral compromise, warped conceptualisation and self validation from the top of the social chain all the way down to the bottom. Perhaps the most obvious example is that of the Third Reich. I would say Britain is also a stark reminder of how self righteous we as a society can become, although I wouldn't compare it to Nazi Germany.

Sadly, I feel as if these concepts are far too high brow to be implemented on a wider scale, which is why various not-so-secret societies and old boys clubs exist around the globe.

 

[Big Casino]

No, it's possible to agree with something, but simply not take action on it, and that is exactly what I'm getting at. Wearing pink does not assist in saving peoples lives, people are just as likely to donate to those asking for collections for said cause wether or not they've seen a whopping 10 people wear pink.

So seriously then what are you crying about? Whys it such a big thorn in yer arse eh? Wearing pink isnt gunna cure cancer no. But it does raise awareness. Your basically saying. Oh it doesnt help at all therefor lets not bother a fuck? Am i right enough? Tbh you juts sound damn miserable about the whole thing. The wear pink t shirts which are sold, the money goes towards breast cancer research and the message written across them you knowm the one that says 'breast cancer awareness'? I dunno about you but i think when people see that written on a tshirt theyre gunna probadly think about it a little more than if they looked at a shirt that said henleys or g star etc etc. Which in turn may make them consider donating. Thats raising awareness mate.
Its not like the go pink campaign is gunna change the world and eradicate cancer but some help is better than nothing at all.Its not like the whole idea behind 'go pink' is an ecil scheme or anything.
Also who cares about how people try to make themselves look better by pretending to support it? theres folk do that for everything in life. WHy are they such a big deal? If thats what pisses you off why not make a thread for them instead of singling out breast cancer awareness in your thread title?

Posers are everywhere.

 

[Rydia]

I don't hate breast cancer awareness. Infact, I threw some change into a collection box at the grocery store. What I do hate, is that it is in the month of October. October is the month that I associate with scare things. Witches, vampires (not the gay sparkly ones!) Werewolves... ect. But now there is PINK every where D: No no no no! Maybe had October been AIDS awareness month it would have been better. AIDs color is red (I think?) Which would fit better with the scary theme.

Also, for this month, I would much rather see a halloween FF banner than a pink one.

I also think October isn't the most appropriate month for any awareness because of what it is often associated with. I think breast cancer awareness month would have been better in the Spring. maybe April or May? It would feel more feminine.

But I have nothing against the awareness month. I'm not gonna bother to check the stats, but I think breast cancer is the cancer that kills the most women. So it is necessary to raise money and awareness for the cause.

 

[Stoic Hero]

Men can get breast cancer too, Rydia but I agree with making it an early month.

Bah. I understand what you're saying, and I feel the same way. But let's face it: It IS raising awareness, and possibly leading to more donations for people with breast cancer. Though, that brings up another point. Is cancer really something we can "cure"? I often wonder if we aren't wasting all our money on causes that won't see a resolution anytime in the near future.

 

[Ethics]

So seriously then what are you crying about? Whys it such a big thorn in yer arse eh? Wearing pink isnt gunna cure cancer no. But it does raise awareness. Your basically saying. Oh it doesnt help at all therefor lets not bother a fuck? Am i right enough? Tbh you juts sound damn miserable about the whole thing. The wear pink t shirts which are sold, the money goes towards breast cancer research and the message written across them you knowm the one that says 'breast cancer awareness'? I dunno about you but i think when people see that written on a tshirt theyre gunna probadly think about it a little more than if they looked at a shirt that said henleys or g star etc etc. Which in turn may make them consider donating. Thats raising awareness mate.
Its not like the go pink campaign is gunna change the world and eradicate cancer but some help is better than nothing at all.Its not like the whole idea behind 'go pink' is an ecil scheme or anything.
Also who cares about how people try to make themselves look better by pretending to support it? theres folk do that for everything in life. WHy are they such a big deal? If thats what pisses you off why not make a thread for them instead of singling out breast cancer awareness in your thread title?

Posers are everywhere.

lolwut? Seriously? Did you even read the first post? I'm fairly certain I did mention that is was not a breast cancer awareness shirt. Yeah, I'm sure I did. Also, I'm pretty sure I made a post earlier in exact same area you quoted in order to make that very post that I was no singling out breast cancer awareness. Do other days annoy me with their bullshit? Yes, they do. However, most of said events are not on the same level as breast cancer awareness.

"It doesn't help, therefor let's not bother a fuck"? Yet again, I already said it's fine for those who actually contribute something to the cause, but at the end of the day those who did not donate are still not going to bother. Wearing a pink shirt does not encourage them any further to do anything about said cause. In fact, it's the very logic you used in your first post here that stops your whole "crusade for awareness" completely. This bit here.

"What makes you care so much? How does it affect you? Answer is it doesnt affect you at all now does it?"

For those it doesn't effect, they don't give two shits if you had people die from breast cancer. All you're trying to do is persuade them differently by wearing old bogus t-shirts to try and drum up support, and as I said before, that is a good cause. You aren't making a difference, though. If they want to donate, they will. If they don't, they won't. It's as simple as that. Wearing pink is fine if you supported the organization, sincere or not, but if you aren't changing a damn thing (even a persons mind) you're making nothing but a fuss.

 

[Big Casino]

you aren't changing a damn thing (even a persons mind) you're making nothing but a fuss.

now thats quite funny. Making a fuss eh? ololol etc

Well whatever man. You have your right to your oppinion. Ive said everything ive had to say. Personally i think most of what your saying is ridiculous. Maybe wer misunderstanding eachother who knows. Either way if i keep posting in this thread im just gunna get myself worked up and im not up for that at all

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