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Here in America, the discussion over gun control has come up again since the Virginia Tech shooting. However, gun control has always been debated.

Proponents of view guns are weapons of killing, and by placing limits and band on guns, deaths can be avoided.

Those against gun control use self-defense as a reason for the need to own guns, as well as other reasons.

Those in the UK already have gun control in place (correct me if I am wrong, it may just be London), and here in America we have registration and bans on certain types of weapons such as fully automatics.

So, what are your views on gun control? Is the second amendment outdated?
 
Well, wouldn't even have this problem in the first place if we didn't sell guns at all to non-military personnel, but then again I'm dreaming, that'll never happen, it would never have happened at all.

But we should seriously place strict limits on gun purchases, especially to young adults since they mostly likely won't have the maturity to use them responsibly. I'm saying that since I'm a student and I'm afraid to die in such a stupid way as getting killed by a mad gunman.

And really, they (gun merchandisers) should check on the person's records, especially mental health records a bit stricter. Not saying that they don't, they obviously do, but it's much more obvious that it's lax.
 
Gun control isn't the problem. Bullet control is. ;D

If you charge 1,000 dollars a bullet, then people would think twice about shooting someone. Ha.

"Damn dude, that guy must've been hated. He had 6,000 dollars worth of led in him."
 
I don't live in America so the second amendment means very little to me. Personally I can't see why everyone should carry guns. It's not necessary at all. In Australia where I come from you can own guns, not handguns though and nothing auto or semi-auto. You could before the massacre at Port Arthur in Tasmania 10 or 11 years ago. That one changed the gun laws immediatly.
I personally like guns, I grew up in a family of hunters and was taught to shoot at a young age. I went hunting with my dad almost every weekend and I loved it. My father didn't just teach me how to shoot though, he taught me to respect the gun. He taught me that guns don't kill people, people kill people and a gun is just one way of doing it.
You can modify the gun laws in America, but perhaps there should be some 'education' in the use of weapons.
In my father's words "Never point a gun at someone unless you mean to shoot them and never shoot someone unless you mean to kill them." That little phrase scared the hell out of me. I could never kill a human being in cold blood.
 
I'm very pro-gun. I don't personally own a firearm nor do I really see any need to. And although their only purpose is to harm others, they are very neccessary. There would be a LOT of good that would come out of not having them... but there would be a lot of harm too. Guns, for a lot of people, is not only a means of recreation it's also a means of security. And when it comes to security, that's not something you can often buy. It's a very important commodity that helps run everything. It makes people's lives better and it helps the economy overall. It's a very good thing. And if you remove a sure-fire way (no pun intended) to make people feel safe, then you're just doomed to fail. If people don't feel safe, people won't buy or sell. And I think not feeling safe is a lot of the arguement for people against guns... but I think the majority of people who don't own guns don't fear getting shot nearly as much as the people who do own guns fear having that taken away from them.
 
In America, gun control would be a better solution to the safety of civilians. But, totally banning guns would be pointless because guns are now too widely circulated. People can buy guns illegally probably easier than buying a gun legally.
 
in my opinion the virginia tech shooting would have possibly been avoided if parents were stricter with material that their children watched or played
 
FFGuy said:
in my opinion the virginia tech shooting would have possibly been avoided if parents were stricter with material that their children watched or played
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Actually, Cho, the shooter, was mentally ill and has been reported to docter numerous times but no one took it seriously. Even if I think you are right, what you said doesn't apply with the Virginia Tech Shooting...
 
yes but tying to the films he abreviated on the 'movies' he sent to the news clearly shows that the mix of violent television and his mental disorder makes it a danger
 
FFGuy said:
yes but tying to the films he abreviated on the 'movies' he sent to the news clearly shows that the mix of violent television and his mental disorder makes it a danger
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Acutually it doesn't. He mailed those tape to the media to finis his plan behond the grave. You see, the real reason Cho was so mad was because he felt all this anger and hatred towards himself. So, he got attention by killing people and then mailed his thoughs to the media in order to transfer the hatred towards himself onto others through the media. And they did exactly what he wanted. All Cho wanted was attention and sympathy. The hell with him! He might have been a smart person, but he wasn't smart enough obviously. I rather be alive than dead most of the time...:cool:
 
For everyone who has said that gun control is a bad idea in America, you just need to look at other countries to see how wrong that is. Sure the amount of circulated fire arms would make it difficult to sort out instantly but in the long run it would be a good idea.

NO GUNS MEANS NO SHOOTINGS!

Seems pretty simple to me.
 
Nanaki's Mohawk said:
For everyone who has said that gun control is a bad idea in America, you just need to look at other countries to see how wrong that is. Sure the amount of circulated fire arms would make it difficult to sort out instantly but in the long run it would be a good idea.

NO GUNS MEANS NO SHOOTINGS!

Seems pretty simple to me.
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A'yo, your wrong. Just because guns are outlawed doesn't make them disappear in thin air. There will still be gun related deaths. And if someone has a gun, I rather defend myself with a legal gun than a legal taser or somethin'
 
aye but it would cut down gun crime massively.
of course u cant tottaly get rid of them but banning them is a start
 
laguna_dream said:
aye but it would cut down gun crime massively.
of course u cant tottaly get rid of them but banning them is a start
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Banning them wouldn't stop criminals from getting them, It'll make it harder to get. But think about it, most criminals gets guns illegally already! So, the only ones that would really be effected are the good people simply protecting themselves. And how would banning all guns make Police and the Army look? They would be our P.I.M.Ps people!!! And I don't know about you guys, but I'm nobodies bitch!:P
 
But since the only logical purpose of a gun is to KILL someone, then trying to stop KILLINGS by KILLING them first doesn't make a damn bit of sense, does it?
 
TyphoonThaReapa said:
In America, gun control would be a better solution to the safety of civilians. But, totally banning guns would be pointless because guns are now too widely circulated. People can buy guns illegally probably easier than buying a gun legally.
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That reminds me of when they banned alcohol in the 20's. Didn't work.
Same thing when they tried to ban war....it's actually true. Well, didn't work.
Point is, you're right, it's pointless to ban something that most people want to have or do. Especially in America where almost everything is up to the people to decide.

And even if they do decide anti-gun, then what? There'll obviously people that are still gonna be pro-gun and this drags on in the Supreme Court or something, meaning that the new 'law', 'act', or whatever will either drag out for such a long time that no one will care anymore, or it will just get pushed aside.
 
Ambiguity said:
But since the only logical purpose of a gun is to KILL someone, then trying to stop KILLINGS by KILLING them first doesn't make a damn bit of sense, does it?
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Actually, it's basic survival. Kill or be killed. It may be barberic, senseless, and disgusting, but it's the truth. And in most cases where guns are involved, it all comes down to a matter of simple protection.
 
Thats true but guess what, if less people carry them, then there is more chance that you or indeed them will just get beat up. That sucks but hey, better than death in my opinion.

For example, you want to rob me ok?, You have a gun and I have a gun, the result is that at least ONE person is going to end up dead, either you, me or both of us. TOTAL DEATHS 1 POSSIBLY 2.

OK same situation You don't have a gun, I do. You are going to end up dead TOTAL DEATH COUNT 1.

Same again You have a gun, I don't. TOTAL DEATH COUNT 0 (POSSIBLY ONE IF YOU ARE INSANE).

Finally neither of have a gun. TOTAL DEATH COUNT 0.

Its not rocket science people.
 
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Grimoire Valentine said:
Thats true but guess what, if less people carry them, then there is more chance that you or indeed them will just get beat up. That sucks but hey, better than death in my opinion.

For example, you want to rob me ok?, You have a gun and I have a gun, the result is that at least ONE person is going to end up dead, either you, me or both of us. TOTAL DEATHS 1 POSSIBLY 2.

OK same situation You don't have a gun, I do. You are going to end up dead TOTAL DEATH COUNT 1.

Same again You have a gun, I don't. TOTAL DEATH COUNT 0 (POSSIBLY ONE IF YOU ARE INSANE).

Finally neither of have a gun. TOTAL DEATH COUNT 0.

Its not rocket science people.
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With all do respect, that's the stupidest thing I've even heard. Just because you don't have a gun doesn't mean you can't get killed. I don't think that's rocket science either...I agree with Typhoon. Although banning guns is a good idea, it will also take away protection for the public. Taking them away would not solve the problem we have created. It will decrease the problem MAYBE. But not solve it. And even if guns were outlawed, would that give authorities more power than they suppose to have? Remember, in America, this country is suppose to be ran by the people and for the people. If the people are prisoners of their own country, that would make the constitution a lie now would it...
 
in Australia, we have strict gun laws... and we dont have school shootings or any of the problems associated with just giving people guns... the worst we had was a crossbow attack... but note no mass school shootings like in the US...

Strict Gun control laws make a huge difference.
 
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