Get Mclaren out

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He should never have been appointed in the first place, he's the perfect man for the FA, someone they can pull the strings with,however they forgot one thing, he's crap.
The england players need a manager who can get a team spirit, getr a team game going on,playing with an attacking emphasis and a solid back, using our strentghs instead of macca just having all the players run in circles
and for god sake DROP DOWNING! he isn't England quality, we also need Joey cole back, he's our best attacking threat, the man we need? GUUS HIDDINK!
 
*cough* i like mc claren *cough* lol nah im only kiddin i miss beckham he was like... my idol
 
Sir Strife said:
*cough* i like mc claren *cough* lol nah im only kiddin i miss beckham he was like... my idol
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Lol, he was right to drop the captaincy, and we appointed the right captain,but we still need beckham, even coming on as a sub for lennon,or vice verca depending on the opposition and the tactics.
 
I agree with you that Steve Mclaren was never the man for the job. During the discussion of who should get it I was really pulling for Sam Allardyce. He's done a great job with Bolton, and he has the has the discipline and mentality to to stick it to the players when they've done wrong.

I really think Mclaren was a bad choice, but now he is manager, I'd give him another chance. However if we don't get into Europe he should go purely cause that is ridiculous. I mean, we don't even have a hard group.
 
Eidolon said:
I agree with you that Steve Mclaren was never the man for the job. During the discussion of who should get it I was really pulling for Sam Allardyce. He's done a great job with Bolton, and he has the has the discipline and mentality to to stick it to the players when they've done wrong.

I really think Mclaren was a bad choice, but now he is manager, I'd give him another chance. However if we don't get into Europe he should go purely cause that is ridiculous. I mean, we don't even have a hard group.
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Yeah Big Sam was a good choice, good at managing players and can get players to stick to their task, kind of like Mourinho in that matter.
With our group, there's no reason we shouldn't have won every single game.
 
You hit the nail right on the head there. Steve McClaren is proving to be one of the biggest mistakes the FA have made. He did well at Middlesborough, I'll give him that, but he's too afraid of the backlash if he drops a big name player.
I'm all for Sam Allardyce taking the helm. He doesn't care about the name. He cares about the form that the player is in. He clearly has good man management skills and can motivate the team
 
The fact is, McLaren is staying until either England don't qualify or if they have a poor Euro 2008. The FA rarely ever boot out anyone mid-qualification (barring Hoddle, who went for non-footballing reasons). The fact he was clearly not the FA's first choice speaks volumes - but the players have to bear a large brunt for this, they're not performing to anything like their quality, and that can't just be down to bad tactics and lack of leadership. And also the media are as usual being ridiculous in their vilification (I'm looking at you, The Sun especially), it happens with every England manager in the papers and it really gets boring.

Either way, he's not going yet unless he decides to resign, and even that's very unlikely. You'll have to put up with him for a while longer.

And whatever people will argue over how good he'd be, fact is that I have more chance of getting the job than Allardyce does. The FA will not choose someone like Allardyce (which is just as well for my sanity - watching England play like Bolton would be torture of the highest level). Personally, if they have any brains, they'll go for someone like Guus Hiddink next time.

Of course one problem is many managers (i.e. the good ones) can plainly see being England manager just means you'll be endlessly crucified and are sensible enough to not touch the job with a 10ft pole. As someone said, the likes of Taylor, Hoddle and Keegan were pretty much destroyed by the job.
 
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The ironic thing is that if we have a really good Euro 2008, everyone will put it down to McClaren xD
If McClaren is going to go, I think now is the time to do it. Every team always gets a boost when a new manager is appointed, and that's what we need right now. We don't want to leave it too close to the next game though...
Despite how much I'd love for Big Sam to be the next manager, I honestly can't see it happening :sad: Knowing the FA, we'll end up with some second-rate foreigner again
 
At least england won theyr game last night so its not all bad.
Unlike us gettin a hiding from italy:mad:
 
^ Losing 2-0 to the World Champions isn't a disgrace by any means, Scotland will always be the underdogs at this level but I'll be happy as long as we are making a game of it.

Major problem with England is the manager which unlike some people don't seem to see is the problem in the end, at this level then the players should be wanting to play and it's the managers job to drop them if they are not performing. McClaren doesn't do that and it will cost him his job in the long run, he needs to drop the duds and play people he can trust to always give him 100% and not when they feel like it.

You'll always see same players defending the manager after a bad performance but that's pretty much bullshit coming from them, they are just covering their own asses for when the next manager comes in. These are again the types of players that need to be dropped.

And with Big Sam critics then I'll ask this, if he actually gets the results and does well then who really gives a shit whether or not you are playing attractive football? England want and need results, they aren't Brazil or France so don't kid yourself on that you are.

Greece won the European Championship in the most boring way possible by just making themselves hard to beat, can't see England playing as badly as that but they need that sort of team mentality. Their manager didn't take some of their best players because they were wanting to be in for themselves and not because of wanting to do the job for the team.
A manager like that who can take the criticism that would follow such actions is what England need right now.
 
Scrutator said:
^ Losing 2-0 to the World Champions isn't a disgrace by any means, Scotland will always be the underdogs at this level but I'll be happy as long as we are making a game of it.

I never said it was a disgrace!, by all means we had a few good chances at goal and we cudve came off worse than 2-0. Im just sayin at the end of the day england got the best result, they got the points.
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laguna_dream said:
Scrutator said:
^ Losing 2-0 to the World Champions isn't a disgrace by any means, Scotland will always be the underdogs at this level but I'll be happy as long as we are making a game of it.

I never said it was a disgrace!, by all means we had a few good chances at goal and we cudve came off worse than 2-0. Im just sayin at the end of the day england got the best result, they got the points.
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With a below average performance against one of the worst teams in the world.
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Yeah, Andorra are a major side. England are expected to win against those teams anyway, no offense to them of course but that's the truth. It'll be the games against Russia and Croatia that they'll need to get the results in which at this present moment in time is unlikely.

What do people think about bringing Beckham back? Yes or no?
 
Scrutator said:
Yeah, Andorra are a major side. England are expected to win against those teams anyway, no offense to them of course but that's the truth. It'll be the games against Russia and Croatia that they'll need to get the results in which at this present moment in time is unlikely.

What do people think about bringing Beckham back? Yes or no?
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I think it's a yes, for depending on the tactics played, and the style of fullback, play either him or Lennon, Lennon agaisnt the slower fullbacks, where it's better to get in behind and dribble in, and Beckham for when we need balls into the box.
 
I'd rather leave Beckham out, and play Lennon. It's senseless having a player who isn't even a regular for his club. It's been a long time since I've noticed anything really great from Beckham; probably since he scored the penalty against Argentina in 2002. But that ended up being a pointless :sad:
 
MCLAREN IS SHIT..........FACT he's always been a yes man and may i ad a spineless arsehole.
becks may not have the pace any more but bring him bak FOR CHRISTS SAKE he lifts team spirit, is the best dead ball specialist in the world an i like his hair......!
but seriously weve got great managers beggin for the england job man
O'NEIL, BRUCE, ALLADICE, jesus id even give KEAN a shot instead of mclaren i mean look what hes dun at sunderland!!!!!
 
Crossfire said:
becks may not have the pace any more but bring him bak FOR CHRISTS SAKE he lifts team spirit, is the best dead ball specialist in the world an i like his hair......!
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*Cough*
Beckham is awful with the dead ball. When was the last time he scored a free kick for England? Then think even further back, when was the last time he scored a free kick for England that actually counted for something? Since the goal against Greece, there hasn't been any. He can't even put the ball in the back of the net from 12 yards away. The fact is we're all out of decent free kick takers :sad:
 
Pooley said:
*Cough*
Beckham is awful with the dead ball. When was the last time he scored a free kick for England? Then think even further back, when was the last time he scored a free kick for England that actually counted for something? Since the goal against Greece, there hasn't been any. He can't even put the ball in the back of the net from 12 yards away. The fact is we're all out of decent free kick takers :sad:
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i agree, what we really could've done with, is young Gareth bale being english instead. convert him to a LM, we'd have a left sided player, and a great free kick taker, playing joey Cole at the RM instead would've been great.
We really do miss Joey.
 
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