Do you believe that maybe we get forced into believing in any Religion

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Well listen now during the Eastern time the Father of my kids is going to make us Crazy about every movie having to do with Jesus God Moses.
My older son 7 1/2 told him Daddy i dont whant to watch that movies you cant force me to watch,well he did force him untill i got cracy about listen to his Crying.
Than my Partner told me it will be my mistake if my kids whant be Religios,than i told him that this movies have nothing to do with beiing Religios and that i dont even believe that it realy was like the movies are Showing.
Anyway i start believing that my partner and his family whants to force my kids for Believing in his Religion(Orthodox).
I believe that they are to small for making up there Minds for in what to believe,for me its enough if they know and believe in Jesus and god,but not about religion they shoud first grow up more.

What do you think about this,and do you believe maybe we also got forced in a way of believing in any religion?
 
I know that I certainly didn't get forced into believing a certain religion, that's for sure, but it's a typically human practice since the beginning of time. Converted by the sword, so to speak, even if there isn't always a literal sword involved.
 
i'v been going to church every sines i was born and i'm strong in my religion
but i think it's stupid to force it on people when i'm trying to bring someone to the church i say come with me and get to know god or go that all i say if they say yes i'll talk to them some more but if thay say no i'l just go
 
I don't know if it's forcing someone to believe in a religion, but more of presenting that religion as an only option. That's why people who grow up with a religious family, they tend to follow the religion as well because it's all they know. When they're exposed to other cultures or ideas, they can make their own decision on what to believe. No one can really force someone to believe in something, but you can follow it without really believing in it. Following and believing are two different things.
 
I must confess, when I was in Primary school [equivelant of Elementary school, I believe] I often felt that 'The Word Of God' was often shoved down my throat. Every day, we would have a "Hymn Rehearsal" in the sports hall, so that we could go to church on the friday, as a school, to sit and sing more hymns to the priest. I hated that. Every single day, we had our books out, learning about the stories of Jesus and about the lessons he taught us. I was actually punished one day for expressing that I did not believe in God - one of my classmates asked if I believed in God, I said no. He asked who I thought the statue was supposed to represent and I said that I didn't care; that it was just a statue to me. Would you believe that I was given a detention for that?

I often felt that the school was causing me quite a bit of oppression, to be honest. Albeit, it was a "catholic school," but still, the proselytizing was just bang out of order.
 
I haven't been forced into religion either. Thankfully. As for the movies, I once heard an interesting "criticism" of Christian viewers who watched Passion of the Christ. He said that everytime Jesus was being beaten by those punishers in the movie, he said he knew that every Christian in the room was feeling the whip for their sins, and feeling more and more bad about themselves everytime they saw it happen. Which I think is funny because you're just sitting in a room watching some guy (an actor) with make up on pretending to get beaten by a whip.

Religion is something you should have a choice over. Having a different religion from your parents won't break the unity; it only does if you choose to antagonize it and make a big fuss over it. As long as you can pull a compromise over it, there would be no problem with having different religions in the family. To do otherwise and force people to have a religion against their will would be to commit religious intolerance.
 
I have not be force into a religion because well if we were force into a religion then mankind would not be where it is today. Its call freedom of choice and human rights and no one not even religion can take that away from you.
 
Riku said:
I must confess, when I was in Primary school [equivelant of Elementary school, I believe] I often felt that 'The Word Of God' was often shoved down my throat. Every day, we would have a "Hymn Rehearsal" in the sports hall, so that we could go to church on the friday, as a school, to sit and sing more hymns to the priest. I hated that. Every single day, we had our books out, learning about the stories of Jesus and about the lessons he taught us. I was actually punished one day for expressing that I did not believe in God - one of my classmates asked if I believed in God, I said no. He asked who I thought the statue was supposed to represent and I said that I didn't care; that it was just a statue to me. Would you believe that I was given a detention for that?

I often felt that the school was causing me quite a bit of oppression, to be honest. Albeit, it was a "catholic school," but still, the proselytizing was just bang out of order.
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My Primary school was the same. Sing hymns every Friday at assembly. We didn't go to church on a Friday but normally on the last day before the likes of the Christmas holidays or Easter holidays, we would go to the church then. I hated those hymns.
 
I don't see it as being forced on people, but there is a bit of a push on Religion of any kind being 'right.' Particularly Christianity in the UK. Like Riku mentioned prior, primary school has more of a religious enforcement than most places, but it's not exactly strong enough to make one feel forced into complying with the religion in question.

The only way I see people being forced without argument is the child of a religious follower being pushed. Having no say in the matter... it sickens me.
 
JustDaz said:
My Primary school was the same. Sing hymns every Friday at assembly. We didn't go to church on a Friday but normally on the last day before the likes of the Christmas holidays or Easter holidays, we would go to the church then. I hated those hymns.
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That being said, it was all so much better when we went to High School. There was one incident where there was a trip to Elgin, some kind of religious place, that we were all offered to go on. To be told about this, we had to go to the Orratory [during out compulsory RE periods] and the school Priest talked to use about it. He asked for a show of hands of people who would be interested, and a few of us didn't stick out hands up, myself included. The priest walked along the lines of us and when he came to the end of the line, he picked on one person and asked why they weren't interested. He said that he would go, but he has a football tournament that weekend. The Priest said, and I quote exactly:

"You shouldn't be playing football - you should be praying to God like every normal person in the world!"

Naturally, being myself, I had a few things to say about this where the boy was too afraid. Catholic school or not, that's just a bit over the top. It was his tone and face! He was so scornful; almost full of hate =S
 
As i told already yes i'm Katholic but i dont believe in it,my small son is just Orthodox and my older one is both Katholic and orthodox(For the Familie Freedom).I remember i telling him 2 times if he wanted to go to church with me,once he said yes the second he told me no thanks he likes to speak to god in bed,before sleeping.I Respect hes thoughts.But there Father dont every sunday the same you must go to church you must make the Cross this way not the other,you must go to the priest to get the Bread of god you must you must you must.My son is getting sick of you must.
There will come the Day were he will go by his self,if he want to.
 
No, we are not being forced into believing in any religion, you can believe whatever you damn well please and nobody can do anything against you for it. There are no mind reading devices, no thought laws, and no Reverend Big Brother as of yet.

By the way, a devout "katholic" such as yourself might want to learn to spell the name correctly.
 
Children are easy to mould the minds of, start them off with something at an early age and they'll believe it all the way through. It's called Indoctrination, Hitler indoctrinated the young to believe the Jew was evil. Children in schools everywhere are taught that their countries religion is the right one and the only one to believe in.

I however refused to participate in "Hymns" and the "Lords Prayer" for which I got into trouble. Alot.
 
Adamant said:
No, we are not being forced into believing in any religion,
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I disagree. Given quite a few posts here, I can deduce that at least some people have been 'forced' into believeing in a certain religion ['indoctrination,' as Finnegan rightly said], but they don't necessarily believe in it in the end.

you can believe whatever you damn well please and nobody can do anything against you for it.
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Tell that to the teachers who ran detention :\
 
i say run from the catholic they try to hard you just sit back and see people come to your church when they relize the big hole in there life

i don't know about other parts of the world but i think where i come from religion isn't forced a lot people just make up there choces if you force your kids you could end up in jail Australias not a very religas country
 
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Fin made a good point and one that we westerners often forget, ANYONE can be forced to believe in anything if they are indoctrinated from an early age. Its how we as humans learn, some is instinct, most is taught behaviour, either directly or observed.

There was a programme on a while back in the UK where a group of people of various ages were asked to act out life like the pilgrim fathers. Obviously a lot of them regected the religious obligations of their ancestors. The truth is that NOBODY in that era would have rebelled. It would not have even have occured for you to question what you were tought.

History has a few exceptions... Martin Luther and Charles Darwin spring to mind. Two of my ultimate heroes.
 
There is a movie called Jesus Camp and its just one of many movies made proofing that there are many ways to force someone to believe in something.I'll try to search today for a good link to this movie and i'll let you know.Just let me know if its okay and if you whanted to?
 
If there are two things that a child shouldn't be exposed to at an early age, it's religion and politics.

Now, before I start, I just want to say that this is not meant to offend people that were, in fact, exposed to these sort of things well before they could remember. This is just what I have observed.

Parents attempt to get their children into religion early, especially if they themselves were exposed to it at a similar age. Why? They feel it is tradition. (Or they just want their kids to go through the same things their own parents put them through.) Even if the child doesn't like going to church on Sundays to listen to long, drawn-out sermons, the parents find it unnatural and force them to go and learn about the religion until the child finally bears some false interest in it. Information tends to seep in whether you try to ignore it or not.

Now, from what I have seen and heard, as these children get older and are still constantly involved in religion/politics, they become closed-minded towards any other form of religion/politics. With quite a few cases I have heard, these kids go to the extremes of shunning every religion that is not specifically theirs. (For example, a catholic ignores a christian or a baptist, even if they have the same general beliefs.) This mindset still lingers with the child as they grow into adulthood and, on quite a few occasions, their closed-minded mindset turns them into the jerk of the crowd.

Again, these are just things that I have noticed. Though I have not meant to offend anyone, it is still sad how many closed-minded people there are as a result of things being forced upon them.
 
If believing in one God or another makes you happy, fine. It's not really for me though. Ever since I was about 5 or so I found it difficult to believe in some 'higher power' that my parents/school/friends told me I HAD to believe in. It's just a way of perpetuating hatred towards others as far as I can see. From religion we have hate crime, world wars, homophobia, racism....I could go on. You don't have to believe in a God or Gods to be a good person. If you want to believe, then go ahead. I choose to believe in my self and my fellow man regardless of age, race, creed or colour.
 
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