Fan Fiction Dissidia 012 Discussion

It kinda fulfilled my prophecy, with each FF, it seemed they either got a new character or a new stage. (I, XII, and XIII being exceptions to this rule)

As gutted as I am that VI and IX didn't get new characters, I'm very happy with the stages they got, Phantom Train looks like it'll be interesting and Prima Vista looks immense. (looks like I have a new preferred stage of choice)

I'm hoping to see new characters for VI and IX on the next Dissidia though :hmph:!
 
Hey, supposedly, in this interview: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605802-dissidia-012-duodecim-final-fantasy/58105208

assist characters get alts... is it true?

"-3P costume is bought from PP shop. Assist characters' costume could be changed as well. This time there are many naked characters, try to make a naked party for fun (laugh)"


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I hope it's true. the rest of the interview:

Translations by ujhbn (Dissidia forums)

Gonna introduce Prishe this time, as well as 3P costume for 4 characters: Laguna in President costume
Shantotto in Black Cloak
Vaan in FFTA2's costume
Tifa in Nibelheim's event costume (Cowgirl)

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New Character Prishe

-Using FFXI's WeaponSkills and Magics, players can combine them to produce skillchains that they want.
-Light based magic "Banishga" will send opponent far away when hit.
-Weapon Skill "Asuran Fists"
-EX Burst "五つの輝き" requires fast command input.
-She will be a guest in Story mode.


Interview of Director Takahashi
- Prishe's Concept is Combo Maker, player can freely combine them to make different combos. Combos are actually set in the Ability Menu before the battle. There are plenty variations to the first part of her attacks, and from there more than one follow ups could be chosen. Developing this character make us cry (laugh). Her degree of freedom on customisation is top among all the characters.
As a side note, just like Shantotto, "Skillchain" is added for her as a reference to FFXI.

- VA is 平野綾 (sorry, I don't know her name in Romaji XD). Since there is no voice in the original game, we have discussed with FFXI's team on who would be the best. Side note again, just like Golbez and Exdeath have secret voice in the last game, Prishe also has one here.

- Prishe will appear in the Story Mode, will be similar to Shantotto and Gabranth in the last game. However her role is much more important. (something related to WoL).

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Dungeon and Field

Dungeon
-is entered through the gates on the Field.
-Dungeon is/has KP Bonus' chance setting, Bonus Line Level, Rule and skills could also be set.
-KP Bonus and Bonus Line are different things, entering a dungeon while your level is lower than the Bonus Line, KP would be rewarded immediately.
-interior of dungeon is the same as the board in the last game, contacting with the imititations (crystal colour characters) will start a battle.

Gathering KP (Kupo)
-winning a battle
-using the "Chain Skill" in dungeon, for example, KP bonus is rewarded when fighting consecutive enemies in the "十" shape area when you are under "Straight Chain" effect.
-"Chain skill" can be acquired by collecting the sphere "遺志の力" on the Field.
-Skills such as "Straight chain" or "Cure" can be generated by collecting 4 spheres.

Spending KP
-saved KP could be used in Moogle Shops on the Field.
-Moogle Shop sells Chain Skills, Skills usable on Fields and Accessories.

Field
-The Field contains enemy and Treasure chest.
-Party is organised in Story Mode, chat events also happen.

Map
-FF6's "Phantom Train", very narrow.
-"Empyreal Paradox" has a very big crystal in the center.

Director Interview
-Party Battle could be 1 on 1, or up to a maximum of 10 people. Players who are not your turn fighting, could join as spectators.
-Because of the new Assist System, strategies that are heavily used in the last game may not work here. Although the battle theory is the same, I want to give you a new fresh feeling. This time, EX vs Assist is really interesting. Especially when fighting against humans players, timing on using which gauge would be the key. New terms will be made, if there are too much to memorize, just remember "EX oppose Assist" as a start.

-Accessories that boost EX will have a negative effect on Assist, and vice versa.

-Nothing from the last game is dropped. Colloseum's treasure items are changed. Look forward to our info. New summons appear, Battle BGM is about twice as much.

-There will be more than one option on Data Transfer. Item and Accessory will not be transferred. Character Levels will be transferred.

-3P costume is bought from PP shop. Assist characters' costume could be changed as well. This time there are many naked characters, try to make a naked party for fun (laugh)


Sorry, if this was already posted, I skimmed the pages and didn't see any mention of it.
 
@Grimmjow:
I too, am disappointed by the lack of FF6 characters, or 9 or any other old FF title that hasn't been milked (FF4, FF7, FF13). I would have loved to see Edgar/Celes and Beatrix/Eiko, but no...it seems SE and the creators of Dissidia only care for themselves :cry cry cry

@Cali:
If its in a interview, probably. I heard something about assist alts a few days ago :hmm:

(At least we know this is the 12th war before the final now...for sure "for sure" I mean. :P)
 
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YUSH! *rubs hands together* I don't really understand the whole naked part... what does that even mean? Why would he let the characters get naked? :rage:
 
I have a funny feeling it'll mean stuff like bare chested male characters and shit :gasp: I doubt we'll be running around with naked Terra etc xD
 
:ohoho:

Okay, as long as they don't slut up the girls and make them run around nude. :rage:
 
I think the laugh means he was joking. :wacky: That, or possibly underwear models for fans to work with an make their own outfits if they have teh modding skillz?

And Terra, it isn't a matter of 'not caring for the customer' but instead, caring for the majority. It's natural, you'll never please everyone and business instinct is to care for the majority. Care for customer, but care for your wallet too, else there's no point i having the business. Alas, FFVI is my favourite, and I really was looking forward to seeing a new character from that game. Don't get me wrong, though, the stage look awesome and I'm very glad to see it added

...Thinking about it, even though it's my favourite FF, I don't think I would have been that phased by the potential additions, (imo, I think we'll see Celes and Locke added before anyone else, and as much as I love Locke, I can't see them coming up with an exactly innovative fighting style for him) As I've said before, I'm happy to see a monk added in the game, and with Tifa being one of my favourite Monks in FF, I'm quite the happy bunny right now.

PS, I totally wrote that last paragraph as the thoughts came to mind, as you may have gathered xD Improvised writing ftw.
 
They'll probably just be in underwear at the very most. It's another one of those things thrown in to appeal to certain sections of their primary audience, like in a similar fashion in 3rd Birthday. It's the kind of thing you'd expect from SE lately to be honest, so I'm not too surprised. At least don't turn this into some weird Rumble Roses-like crap or something.
 
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Terra Branford said:
I believe its March 22 or was it the 23rd?

As for the alts...I had no idea! Will OK, Terra and Kefka get new alts as well?
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March 22 for North America

As for the alts, EVERY character is getting a second alternate. They have also all been revealed for the most part. Most of them are on the NA site, and if they aren't on there, they are on the Japanese site.

Each description (which describes the NEW alt) has one or two links. Most have a link to an image from the FF wikia that has both alternates for the character. Some descriptions have a second link with what the new alternate is based off of.

Returning characters:

WoL: Based on NES warrior sprite.
Garland: Demon in the clouds.
Firion: This which is based on this Amano work.
Emperor: FF Origins FMV.
Onion Knight: This which is based on this Amano work.
Cloud of Darkness: Lighter colors.
Cecil: DS FMV appearance.
Golbez: Man in Black from TAY.
Bartz: FFV sprite appearance as seen here (wikia doesn't have one with both alternates yet).
Exdeath: Amano artwork as seen here (like Bartz, wikia doesn't have an image with both alts yet).
Terra: This is based upon this Amano work. Seems to be her chaos outfit.
Kefka: This is based upon this Amano work.
Cloud: This is based upon this Amano work. This has been used as his Chaos outfit too. Of course, his DLC alt is from KH (but right now, it's Japan only).
Sephiroth: Straight outta FFVII.
Squall: This is based upon this Amano work.
Ultimecia: Edea.
Zidane: Knights of Pluto armor.
Kuja: Black and grey tones to invoke imagery of "Angel of Death".
Tidus: First alt was redesigned to be exactly like FFX. Second alt is based upon this Amano work. Like Terra and Cloud, this is used as his Chaos outfit.
Jecht: First alt is now, like Tidus, exactly like his FFX appearance. Second alt is his Zanarkand Abes outfit.
Shantotto: Black or Demon cloak.
Gabranth: His Basch impersonation from the beginning of XII.

New characters:

Kain: First alt is Dark Kain, second alt is Hooded Man from TAY. His Ex-Modes are Holy Dragoon.
Tifa: First alternate is Advent Children, second is Cowgirl outfit from the flashback and Crisis Core. DLC alternate is this Amano work. DLC comes with the Special Edition (Europe, I think, only right now).
Laguna: First alt it Galbadian soldier outfit and the second is his Esthar president outfit.
Yuna: First alt is based off of this Amano work and her second is her wedding dress.
Prishe: Her first alt is this. Her second alt is uknown right now, but according to wikia, Normura said it is "daring".
Vaan: First alt is based off of this Amano work, and his second is from Tactics A2.
Lightning: First alt is based upon this Amano work, and her second is a female guardian corps outfit, like so. Her DLC is based upon Aya Brea (3rd Birthday).

We know nothing of Gilgamesh yet, since he has yet to be officially revealed.

As far as the DLC costumes, they may end up being available everywhere as paid DLC. But for right now, Cloud's DLC comes with Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Final Mix (which Final Mixes are Japan only I guess), Lightning's comes with The 3rd Birthday (so everyone could get this I guess), and Tifa's comes with the Special Edition (which I believe is for Europe, maybe it's Japan only, but I don't recall). FFIV Complete Collection is said to be coming with a Duodecim code as well, but details of what it is are non-existant.

I really hope all the links I posted are the correct ones...my eyes hurt from all that. Enjoy!

As far as the whole "Naked party" thing, I think that is simply referring to all the shirtless characters this time around. I don't think it would have anything to do with being literally naked...do you know what kind of rating that would get the game? The rating has already been set to T (in NA).
 
Hahaha Rumble Roses xD. Naked characters.. Cloud of Darkness and Terra in EX mode are the most revealing in the game. But if they want naked characters (I take it they will be in underwear) then all I can say is they are going beyond and listening to the fanboys/girls.
 
Miyuki...See the very last line of my post just before yours...I doubt it will be literally naked or underwear. There are a bunch of characters this time around showing more skin, like Tidus, Vaan, and Terra
 
Caliquin said:
:ohoho:

Okay, as long as they don't slut up the girls and make them run around nude. :rage:
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I'd bombard them with Feminists and rabid wolves if they did that.

Chargar251 said:
It'd be fine if it was men though, wouldn't it? :rage:

/not that i'd mind either way :britt:
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Its different for men and women. :D

Besides I don't really want the men walking around nude either lol

Grimmjow said:
And Terra, it isn't a matter of 'not caring for the customer' but instead, caring for the majority. It's natural, you'll never please everyone and business instinct is to care for the majority. Care for customer, but care for your wallet too, else there's no point i having the business. Alas, FFVI is my favourite, and I really was looking forward to seeing a new character from that game. Don't get me wrong, though, the stage look awesome and I'm very glad to see it added

...Thinking about it, even though it's my favourite FF, I don't think I would have been that phased by the potential additions, (imo, I think we'll see Celes and Locke added before anyone else, and as much as I love Locke, I can't see them coming up with an exactly innovative fighting style for him) As I've said before, I'm happy to see a monk added in the game, and with Tifa being one of my favourite Monks in FF, I'm quite the happy bunny right now.
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That's true. But let's be honest, they could care less about the older fans. They have their three major cash cows now: 4,7 and 13. That's why the GBA port of FF6 and FF5 are the "remakes" by their words. They are money grubbers, selfish...evil! :C

Locke would offer much of a different or unique fighting style. He'd be a mix of Vaan and Zidane, but with a Bartz-y attitude mixed with Vaan's personality. xD

Celes would be just like any other warrior, so that's not really a bad choice.

Sabin could be like Tifa. We don't have many of them, so it wouldn't be that bad.

Edgar could be a warrior, Dragoon and Gunner, which would offer a lot of different play styles...and those Tools. They are amazing. :awesome:

As for the alts, EVERY character is getting a second alternate. They have also all been revealed for the most part. Most of them are on the NA site, and if they aren't on there, they are on the Japanese site.
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We already know the characters are going to get a second alt and which ones they have currently.... :P

We're talking about them adding more than they already have ;p

Hahaha Rumble Roses xD. Naked characters.. Cloud of Darkness and Terra in EX mode are the most revealing in the game. But if they want naked characters (I take it they will be in underwear) then all I can say is they are going beyond and listening to the fanboys/girls.
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I think it'll be the 3d models like I posted earlier. It makes the most sense anyway....I don't think they'd add having naked characters into the game. That would just be crazy and really weird.

And it would lose a lot of players as a lot of parents wouldn't allow it xD
 
In all honesty, I wouldn't say they're evil (Frankly, I'd say a company or person enforcing their ideological values is evil, like Fox with Bill O'Reilly, now that's evil, alas, another topic entirely), and every company needs to think about themself in the long run, a little bit of selfishness is needed to run a business. (Taking Business Studies for 2 years pretty much nails this piece of info in your head. Some of the most boring lessons of my liiiiiife :rage:)

I wouldn't doubt Locke's attitude for a minute mind, I love his personality xD. But I dunno, I'd still have to wait and see what SE come up with for him with fighting, and that's an if they add him. As for Celes, for some reason (most likely because there was a long stage of time during my FFVI playthroughs where she has this weapon equipped) I could see her using a morning star.

Sabin would be another Monk so they've had to do something to differ him from Tifa, but Edgar I can see coming off nicely, alas, as I said before, Locke and Celes would most likely be added before him due to their higher relevance to VI's plot.

But I do see where you're coming from about caring less for fans of the classics. V and VI remake better come together with how long we've been hanging for them to be released. :hmph:
 
Yea a "little" bit is needed. Its been 17-18 years since FF6 and its yet to get anything done for it, and even longer for FF5. The least they could do is add more characters for those two games for them :P

Everyone has equal relevance to FF6's story, except Terra and Celes. Each character as equal (not counting those two girls of course lol) time in the story and equal importance. They all suffered at the hands of the Empire and given about the same time in the game and same importance :)

I could see them adding Celes 'cause Celes and Terra were the mains...but SE did say they would go for the bigger fan bases and judging by Japan, that's:

Terra, Shadow, Celes, Mog, Edgar and Relm. You see loads of images for them.

And going by Fanfiction.net (From what I've seen, the largest fan gathering place):

Terra, Celes, Edgar, Sabin and Locke. Each but Terra, has 2 pages for each. Terra has 7-10 I believe.

As for Sabin's playtime...I don't think they'd really have to add anything to him. Monks/Fighters are like warriors. You can have a few of them and it won't really needs anything added/changed for them. :)
 
I think it could be argued that Locke is just under the relevance of Terra and Celes but just above everyone else mainly due to him being the second character to join, his relationship with the two ladies, acting as a catalyst of change somewhat for both of them (especially his little thing with Celes) and the fact that he saved Terra, as well as the big Phoenix Cave event we go through when he rejoins the party (I swear to god, I have an OCD to get everyone else to join before doing to perfect the build up to it xD)

I wouldn't argue with Mog though :ryan: Shadow however...eh. As for Relm, her Painting skill would definitely be different, I'll be fascinated to see how it would be pulled off for Dissidia.
 
Locke and the rest have just the same relevance. Celes is the second main. if anything. You get to play Terra at the start and Celes at the end. There's a lot more backing T&C. :P

Everyone has a relationship with the two ladies, even Rumah, a character that dies. As well as Geshtahl...and saving someone doesn't necessarily mean the character is of more relevance than the cast that shares the spotlight equally :P

If they added Relm, I have a feeling it would take up a lot of UMD space. She would work like Yuna and a gunner, I think xD
 
Well, I guess there is no right and wrong on the matter, merely how you interpret it :lew: Basically meaning arguing it will most likely achieve nothing.

And ja, you're right, it would take a lot of UMD space, that's why Yuna's summons are only half their bodies coming out of symbols. But hey, if it worked for Yuna, it could work for Relm...and it'd definitely work if they just made a version for the PS3 :rage:
 
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