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Earthlifke planet; 36 lightyears away

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An artist's rendering of an Earthlike alien planet.
Illustration courtesy L. Calçada, ESO
Rachel Kaufman
for National Geographic News
Published August 30, 2011

A new planet found about 36 light-years away could be one of the most Earthlike worlds yet—if it has enough clouds, a new study says.
The unpoetically named HD85512b was discovered orbiting an orange dwarf star in the constellation Vela. Astronomers found the planet using the European Southern Observatory's High Accuracy Radial velocity Planet Searcher, or HARPS, instrument in Chile.

Radial velocity is a planet-hunting technique that looks for wobbles in a star's light, which can indicate the gravitational tugs of orbiting worlds.
The HARPS data show that the planet is 3.6 times the mass of Earth, and the new world orbits its parent star at just the right distance for water to be liquid on the planet's surface—a trait scientists believe is crucial for life as we know it.

(Related: "NASA Finds Smallest Earthlike Planet Outside Solar System.")
"The distance is exactly the limit where you want to be to have liquid water," said study leader Lisa Kaltenegger of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy.
"If you scale it to our system, it's a bit further out than Venus is to our sun." At that distance, the planet likely receives a bit more solar energy from its star than Earth does from the sun. (Explore an interactive solar system.)
But Kaltenegger and colleagues calculate that a cloud cover of at least 50 percent would reflect enough of the energy back into space to prevent overheating.

On average, Earth has 60 percent cloud cover, so partly cloudy skies on HD85512b are "not out of the question," she said. Of course, clouds of water vapor depend on the presence of an atmosphere similar to Earth's, something that can't be detected on such distant planets with current instruments.

Models of planet formation predict that planets with more than ten times Earth's mass should have atmospheres dominated by hydrogen and helium, Kaltenegger said. Less massive worlds—including HD85512b—are more likely to have Earthlike atmospheres, made mostly of nitrogen and oxygen.
(Related: "Saturn Moon Has Oxygen Atmosphere.")

New World "A Strong Candidate" for Habitability
So far, the newly detected planet is only the second rocky world outside our solar system to be confirmed in its star's habitable zone—the region around a star that's not too hot and not too cold for liquid water.
The other contender, planet Gliese 581d, was previously discovered using the HARPS instrument. This world lies just on the cool edge of its star's habitable zone. (See "Most Earthlike Planet Yet Found May Have Liquid Oceans.")

Another promising planet, Gliese 581g, was discovered in 2010 and dubbed the most Earthlike planet yet. But controversy surrounds the claim, with some experts declaring that the entire planet is actually a data glitch.
Manfred Cuntz, director of the astronomy program at the University of Texas, Arlington, noted that more information is needed before anyone can speculate whether aliens are wandering around the newfound planet.
"It's not their fault no extra information [about the planet's atmosphere] is available right now," Cuntz said of the research team. "It looks like this is a strong candidate, in principle."

In addition to size and location, HD85512b has two other points in its favor for potentially harboring life, Cuntz said.

The planet's orbit is nearly circular, which would provide a stable climate, and its parent star, HD85512, is older—and therefore less active—than our sun, which would lower the likelihood of electromagnetic storms damaging the planet's atmosphere.(See "'Nightmare' Star Flares Dim Odds for Alien Life?")

Not only that, but in principle, the age of the system—5.6 billion years—"gives life a chance to originate and develop," he said. By contrast, our own solar system is thought to be about 4.6 billion years old.

New Planet a Great Place for Yoga?

Given current limits on space travel, it's unlikely for now that humans will get to visit HD85512b.

But if we could get there, the newfound planet might seem like a fairly alien world: muggy, hot, and with a gravity 1.4 times that of Earth's, study leader Kaltenegger said. On the bright side, "hot yoga might be one of the things you don't have to pay for there," she quipped.
The paper describing HD85512b appears online at arXiv.org and has been accepted for publication in the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.
Oh my gosh! This is the COOLEST news I have read in a long, long, long time!
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That planet is awesome looking too
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It's times like this that makes me think we still live in the stellar stone age. If we can't even put man on Mars anytime soon, it will probably be millennia yet until there's the remote possibility of any human visiting anything beyond the solar system, let alone 36 lightyears away. And put in the fact that there just doesn't seem to be the technology yet anytime soon for efficient space travel. The more likely event would be to send a space probe there, though goodness knows how they're going to make it move fast enough so it even gets anywhere close to this star system and the Gliese 581 system before it's totally out of operation.

Still, I guess I can only dream and speculate. If the star system is older, that could mean if there is any life on that world, there is the chance that they've developed and evolved into a more advanced stage than we. Either that or it's like a milder form of Venus and it's desolate and barren. But I prefer to think of the former and hope that we don't piss them off with any provocative radio signals. xD
 
I love news like this! It makes me wanna go "HAH!!" at people who say that earth is only 6000 yrs old and there is no life out there. Stories like this gives me hope that one day we will find new life in the universe! But like Fleur said we probably wont be finding any life in this lifetime :sad3:
 
I knew we had other civillisatons far far away. If there is another life form on this planet then we are 1 step closer to living in a futuristic life/paradise/ or it might not be so good.

Still. Love the planet.
 
For some reason this reminds me of a school trip when you were driving beside a bus from another school, and both schools start calling each other wankers and making obscene gestures. Those Earth 2 guys look like pricks etc.

NASA has even retired it's space exploration program, so yeah it could be a while till we get there
 
Gonna have to second with Toni. I also feel like telling people "TOLD YOU SO" about there being no life outside of earth, but hey this is cool beans bro. Life outside of Earth is always nice to hear, even if I'll be dead by the time man can go there. :wacky:
 
I feel I should point out, that just because the planet could facilitate life does not mean there is life. Technically any planet could foster life just not humans, the fact that this planet exists does not confirm aliens
 
I feel I should point out, that just because the planet could facilitate life does not mean there is life. Technically any planet could foster life just not humans, the fact that this planet exists does not confirm aliens

Nor does it mean that it is intelligent life. It could only be microscopic life forms.

I think they have found evidence that life could have once existed on Mars and Saturn's moon Titan?
 
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