'Beauty' advertising

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This was originally going to be about cosmetic surgery, but I decided to make it about advertising in general, because it really really annoys me.

Like, recently on the tv/radio/magazines/everywhere really, I have noticed a high amount of adverts for cosmetic surgery.
It really irritated me the way they presented it, like 'Got a slight imperfection? Nose a tad round? Boobs not big enough? One earlobe slightly bigger than the other? Well come down and we will make you look like all pretty and plastic and perfect...' You know, as if people's body images aren't negative enough what with this size zero obsession on catwalks and models with 'perfect features'. I read an article about plastic surgery a few weeks ago and apparently in places like LA most women have had it to fix minor 'problems' with the way they look.

Well anyhoo, what are people's views on this whole shebang? Like, do you think that it's alright for people to get cosmetic surgery whenever they please, or are you morally against it altogether??

Personally i think that in extreme cases where it is going to save somebody's life, or if they have a severe facial growth/disfigurement then it is okay. In other cases, I suppose it is up to the person , if it gives them more confidence, then I can't say that I agree with the morals but fine. I just hate the way it is being broadcasted now as if it is just in the same league as wearing a lot of makeup or something..

 
It all comes down to like the last human on that Doctor who episode. Having every single imperfection removed from you to make you look better, to make you less human.


It's pretty disgusting if you ask me.
 
Directed at the final paragraph, I wouldn't say that there's ever a "wrong" time to get it done, or that anyone should be against another person doing something to make themselves feel better about how they appear.

I'd never consider such procedures myself but, for debates like this, I always stand firm at the "Pro-Choice" way of thinking. I don't mind if you want to go in and straighten out your nose - if it makes you feel better then, by all means, good luck to you. The only negative thing I can see with this is the debt that can pile up as a result of vanity.
 
I agree with Riku on the fact that you should feel that you are able and allowed to get a plastic surgery. I mean if you want to make yourself look better so you can feel okay with yourself then by all means do it. But if you want to go in for plastic surgery just cause you want your boobs bigger just to say you have big boobs then their's something wrong with your mindset...
Anyways I think that you should be able to get surgery if you feel that you really and truly need it.

Anyways on the topic of advertisement, I think that those chairmen sitting in their offices are bitches. I can't stand the way that they feel they have to dumb everything down for us. For example their is a cholesterol commercial and the guy is on these spiral stairs explaining cholesterol and then he tells everyone that doing whatever can improve your cholesterol by 1/10, that's 10%... I hate how they think nobody knows anything...
 
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Riku said:
Directed at the final paragraph, I wouldn't say that there's ever a "wrong" time to get it done, or that anyone should be against another person doing something to make themselves feel better about how they appear.

I'd never consider such procedures myself but, for debates like this, I always stand firm at the "Pro-Choice" way of thinking. I don't mind if you want to go in and straighten out your nose - if it makes you feel better then, by all means, good luck to you. The only negative thing I can see with this is the debt that can pile up as a result of vanity.
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I don't believe it's a question of "wanting to look better" it's more of a question of the media influencing people at such a young age, making them think there's something wrong with the way they look, they think they're fat when they aren't. They suddenly decide they want plastic surgery to make themselves look 'right'
 
I would be irritated by those advertisements too. Those kind of slogans are definitely not the right way to make someone feel better about themselves. If someone wants plastic surgery, please don't push it in front of their faces that they really need one badly. They could have tried a different approach.

I'm not against those who wants plastic surgery, although I agree with Riku that usually in most cases, the result leads to vanity. But I suppose that's understandable since you'll experience an overwhelming change go through you and naturally, you'll feel better about yourself. It could be an enjoyable experience for many people (seeming that the result is to their liking).

Flaunting way too much and being overconfident, however, is another matter. Not that being overconfident is a bad thing...it can just be annoying to some people if it comes down to that person looking down upon other people's looks just because he or she thinks they're better-looking than everyone.
 
Yea I agree with Penguin girl XD. Just kiddin Mitsuki.

I always do seem to agree with everyone on these types of things. I guess I'm just an agreeable guy.
 
Finnegan III said:
I don't believe it's a question of "wanting to look better" it's more of a question of the media influencing people at such a young age, making them think there's something wrong with the way they look, they think they're fat when they aren't. They suddenly decide they want plastic surgery to make themselves look 'right'
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Yes!! My point exactly! People are brainwashed with pictures everywhere of flawless-looking people, leading them to have an ideal picture of what they 'should' look like, and constantly comparing themselves with these models. And then with all the adverts for plastic surgery it is implying that having a bit of chubb on you etc. is a bad thing, and that you should get it removed, so therefore even people who don't go through with any surgery will still feel bad about themselves. It's not so much about getting the surgery, i guess it's more to do with the way that the media is influencing people into thinking that they need it.
 
Eh, live and let live. If people think that they need plastic surgery, whatever, let them get it. It's their money. If getting plastic surgery will help with someone's self-esteem and make them feel better about themselves, let them get it. I don't really see the harm in it. Sure it's vain, but so what? Putting on make up is vain. Brushing your hair is vain. We have the medical technology to fix people's features with increasingly non-invasive procedures. I do think, however, that there should be an age restriction on plastic surgery. The thought of young girls getting work done is rather sickening. Plastic surgery should be reserved for people who are 18 years old or older, except in special cases (burn victims, deformities, etc...).

I personally would never have plastic surgery done. I mean, sure there are things that I don't like about my features, but they're MY features and no one else's. I don't really want to mess with that. My cousin had a nose job, and it really messed up her nose. Her nose looks pretty awful now, and they can't fix it because there's a danger it would just make it worse and she'd end up looking like Michael Jackson. Honestly, though, when I'm older and have wrinkles, I don't see the harm in getting a bit of work done so that my skin looks smoother. I can't help it...I can be vain. Meh.

I haven't really encountered plastic surgery ads that target young girls. I do agree that its unfortunate that they are bombarded with images of "perfect" looking people. A majority, if not all, of these models are airbrushed and enhanced. These images the girls see aren't even real people. It also teaches girls to care more about their appearances than about their intelligence. As a result, you get girls who care more about what they're wearing/whether some guy thinks they're pretty than about being intelligent. It's disgusting.
 
I don't see anything wrong with plastic surgery.

In fact I don't see it any differently than, say, picking out your own clothes. No one expects you to walk around in rags all day, and no one would blame you if you didn't want to. Plastic surgery is nothing more than a way for you to choose how you look. Fall in love with a pair of jeans, but hate the way they make your butt look? Then why not change your butt?

It may sound silly to some, but in all honesty, almost all of us would like to be a little more "perfect", or at least a little different, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Who said mother nature was perfect (if you believe in God I guess that your opinion would be slightly different from mine... however, no one ever said that God would make you the way that you want to be, or even that he cared about the way you looked to begin with)? Ultimately you are just taking a more "extreme" path by altering the way you look physically, but in the end the result is the same no matter how you look at it.

Personally I wouldn't partake in the use of plastic surgery unless I had been maimed in some way, but in all honesty it has nothing to do with the "moral" issues that some seem to think apply in this situation, but instead has everything to do with the risks involved and the overall size and shape of my bank account. I'm going to be honest here and say, I'd like to be a little less round around the middle, and maybe a little bit longer in the pants. To be blunt.

I don't particularly care for the idea of advertising or "selling" plastic surgery by means of attacking someones feelings towards their physical self, but I can't really argue with the fact that, from a marketing standpoint, it works.
 
I hate the idea of cosmetic surgery in general... Especially when it comes to boob jobs, because that just seems to tell me that the girl's a hoe. It just makes me feel that people are extremely fake for even thinking about cosmetic surgery... And if they're going to lie about their body, you can guess what all else they may lie about...

On a lighter note... one of my friends actually wants a breast reduction operation. :P
 
So, by your logic, women who want larger breasts are simply out to become sluts, where as women who would like smaller breasts are prudent, "proper" members of society.

Also, if changing the way you look makes you "fake" then I must assume that you are either also fake, or an extreme nudist. Because, frankly speaking, we weren't born with the clothes on our back, or with our hair cut, or with any other sort of adornments, and from what you have said, anything you change from the way you were born is another method of becoming "fake".
 
What I'm saying is, changing your body physically through an unnatural process does not seem right to me. I never said I really agreed with my friend, I just meant that it is an interesting twist. And, yes, girls who want larger breasts do seem like sluts to me, but mostly if they want them like, unnaturally huge, like most girls I know who go through those types of surgery.

For that matter, I don't see why guys care about breasts on a girl, or physical appearances what-so-freaking-ever. If she's a nice girl personality-wise, then she's a nice girl, despite appearances, good or bad. A b**** with a huge rack is no more than a b**** to me no matter what she looks like. but, I digress, and have gone off onto a rant.
 
Your rant actually seems much more thought out and true to your actual feelings than your actual post was. I can see in your "rant" where you mean to basically say "girls who get unnaturally large breasts are stereotypically sluts", whereas you almost straight up said "big boobies = slut" in your post.

I'm not trying to rag on you, or anyone else for that matter, I just am very particular about people posting properly in the debate forums. After all, it's hard to get your ideas across if you aren't saying what you mean, and not saying what you mean completely defeats the purpose of posting in the debate section at all.
 
Yeah... I need to think my responses out better... I suppose it's part of me having not been in my creative writing mode in quite awhile... That and it's late here. xD

Anyway, it just annoys me... It seems to me that the way most guys see beauty in women effects their psyches enough to make them think they need to change themselves so drastically as with surgery. And because it's been like that for so long, now it's women advertising it as a viable solution to women, almost always hinting that they would be generally liked/loved more. It just makes me hate how modern society has come into being.
 
They make you believe that you don't worth and your ugly,like no one's ever gonna notice you.
Then you get obsessed and can't do without a surgery.I mean even if you want to change something at you first change your way of thinking.
Some people are born beautiful and some ugly.
But some are just b*tches and no matter how beatiful they are no one wants them.
What would be the point if everybody was beautiful?
Life would be boring cause you wouldn't have to face probs.Neither you would learn to estimate other values.
But we shouldn't also forget that some people are just doing their jobs to make a living.
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Shou said:
They make you believe that you don't worth and your ugly,like no one's ever gonna notice you.
Then you get obsessed and can't do without a surgery.I mean even if you want to change something at you first change your way of thinking.
Some people are born beautiful and some ugly.
But some are just b*tches and no matter how beatiful they are no one wants them.
What would be the point if everybody was beautiful?
Life would be boring cause you wouldn't have to face probs.Neither you would learn to estimate other values.
But we shouldn't also forget that some people are just doing their jobs to make a living.
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That is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.
It's not that I'm against people getting it, because it does make some people happy and gives them more confidence etc. so in which case let them.
It's just the moral of it that I don't agree with. And it's also a lot to do with the way that it is advertised, making people think that they need it.

Your point about how 'life would be boring because there would be no problems' is another thing that I strongly agree with, but not just about appearances but most things in life. Like how there is no 'perfect' person which in my opinion is a good thing. We all have faults and imperfections, but they are just what make us different from everyone else, endearing traits that make us unique. And I just see the whole idea of getting plastic surgery as a way of making yourself the same as everyone else, closer to this idea of 'perfect' which some people seem to be obsessed with for some reason.

Anyway, like I said, if people want to get it then so be it, but I personally wouldn't, and I think that magazines and tv should stop trying to sway people and just let them make their own decisions.


OmniscientOnus said:
Personally I wouldn't partake in the use of plastic surgery unless I had been maimed in some way, but in all honesty it has nothing to do with the "moral" issues that some seem to think apply in this situation, but instead has everything to do with the risks involved and the overall size and shape of my bank account. I'm going to be honest here and say, I'd like to be a little less round around the middle, and maybe a little bit longer in the pants. To be blunt.

I don't particularly care for the idea of advertising or "selling" plastic surgery by means of attacking someones feelings towards their physical self, but I can't really argue with the fact that, from a marketing standpoint, it works.
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When i was thinking about this I completely forgot about about the money side of things, and just how expensive plastic surgery is. I suppose that's another issue with it aswell, just how far people will go to make themselves look/feel better. Like £4000 for a boob job?? More money than sense if you ask me.
But yeh, people do have make money in some way, and I have nothing against that. To be fair, it's not like surgeons are hiding in dark alleys kidnapping young girls and completely reconstructing their bodies. Lots of people are too obsessed with money though In my opinion..
 
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