A Thought About Sin. (contains spoilers)

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Random thought that just popped into my head.

Sin looks like some sort of giant whale thing with a load of eyes right?

Sin is Yu Yevon's armour right?

Sin is Jecht right?

Which leads me onto this, if Yu Yevon takes over the Final Aeon and transforms it into the next Sin, then why is Braska's Final Aeon inside Sin and not actually the beast flying around destroying towns?

Yu Yevon has control over Jecht's Aeon, Jecht is Sin and blowing up shit, but the actual Aeon is not the outside form, as you fight Braska's Final Aeon when you are actually inside of Sin.

So how does it work?

Is it a case of a simple chain of command? Yu Yevon posesses the Aeon, the Aeon controls the outer shell, the outer shell is what we see attacking the Villages and Cities?
 
That seems like the most logical idea. Yu Yevon takes over the Aeon and to protect itself it builds the Sin armor around the Aeon it's now possessing.
 
Interesting points, I suppose. I never really thought about it, but what you say makes sense. However, I think Yu Yevon merely molds the shell around the Final Aeon and the final aeon, in this case Jecht, molds his consciousness with the shell itself as it's formed from his body.

The final aeon inside sin could more-so be some sort of solid replication of the true aeon that had long since been transformed into Sin armor, as well.
 
Suppose so. I don't really think Yu Yevon gets to control Sin though. I personally believed Jecht lost his self when he transformed, probably becoming an unrestrained beast too, only that it probably takes some time for what Amerowolf said to happen.
 
I guarantee you that the developers just thought "Hey, why not have instead of Tidus' party fighting the big Sin that we created, make Tidus' party go inside Sin instead, and then, oh my god, wait for it; Fight Jecht. It'll be like the ultimate showdown, Father vs Son. Whaddya'll think?" And everyone else in the boardroom would agree and suggest have Jecht turn into a big Aeon to follow the Final Summoning story and also to end the game with a bang. No one in that room ever expected gamers to ask questions like what you and many people before you are asking.

But, going back to your thoughts, yeah, I guess Yu Yevon just sorta created an armour around BFA, then controlled that armour. Jecht/BFA, was just a foundation for that armour. Once it was complete, Jecht became the co-pilot of Sin.

That's my thoughts.
 
Maybe Sin is always as it is but it need sort of like a driver, if you follow. Sin may be like a tank that has no power to move or destroy without a driver. So yeah, what you said.

It could be something like Jecht and Sin have some mind connection thing such as one cannot survive without the other.
 
when jecth was turned into the final aeon his soul gets like put into sin and he cant controle him self in what he does.
 
I can guarantee every scene with Sin in it there was some wildlife documentary filming on the side somewhere. "Look at the marvelous Sin. Don't get to close or we'll really piss em off and he'll come eat our souls and what not."
 
i think that the Sin that you see is actually just armor. I also believe that the final aeon is inside Sin for the simple fact that it was needed to destroy Sin in the first palce, and since it said that YuYevon posses the aeons, his possession of Jecht as the final aeon causes him to turn against the people, as is done in the final battle.

the sin that you see is just armor, the aeon is the driving force behind Sin and YuYevon is the puppet master behind the whole thing pulling the strings.
 
It's just strange to think how the final battle would pan out.

If the Aeon is inside Sin, when a Summoner calls their Final Aeon, how would it beat the Aeon inside Sin?

Would it just rape the armour and destroy the other Aeon, or would it break through the armour, and at that moment, Yu Yevon moves onto it, leaving the Sin Aeon to just die or fade away because the it's Summoner is no longer there?
 
Well there is definitely a physical battle. The state of the calm lands proves that. But beyond that is all speculation I fear.
 
Aye, either way the Final Aeon will have to fight the outside of Sin.

Just strange to think what actually happens with Sin's Aeon. Is it just left behind by Yu Yevon (which would cause it to fade away because there would be no summoner calling it anymore) or after the Final Aeon breaks through the armour, do the two Aeons do battle?

Am I thinking about this to deeply?
 
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8thHoroscope said:
Suppose so. I don't really think Yu Yevon gets to control Sin though. I personally believed Jecht lost his self when he transformed, probably becoming an unrestrained beast too, only that it probably takes some time for what Amerowolf said to happen.
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Ummm... I don't think so. Jecht had not completely lost himself. If he had, the Hymn of the Faith wouldn't have effected Sin. Like he said while staring at everyone...

"I.. can't hear the hymn so well anymore"

And he also told Tidus that he was not going to be able to hold back any longer. He was SLOWLY losing himself, becoming an unrestrained beast, but did not even when they were fighting him (At least until Tidu's voice no longer reaches him after two times of the battle command "Talk"). So, he is okay until the end.

And about the armor... I am sure it is there to protect Yu Yevon, who resides within WITH Jecht. Either that or it is just a random precaution. Also, isn't a replica of Zanarkand inside of him? Maybe it is used to keep the original sins that lead to the creation of Sin alive within Sin itself...

This is my favorite Final Fantasy. Lol. This, VI, and Crisis Core. I have alot of time to think of these things too. lol.
 
I have to agree with AmethystRoses here. This is my fave FF game and therefore I've thought alot about these sorts of things.

Jecht was never truly gone. There was always a part of him there. This is shown, as AR stated, when he mentions the hymn and the interactions between Jecht and Tidus. It's also shown when Tidus looks upon Sin truly for the first time. Sin looks at Tidus and there's a moment between them before Sin then turns and leaves. It's almost as though Sin/Jecht is telling Tidus what needs to be done.

As for the outer shell. That's all it was in my opinion. Something to protect the vulnerable YuYevon.
 
How bout' some spoiler tags. :gasp:

Because
Jecht is sin, so that makes me beleive that Jecht would be inside Sin. Because remember that Yunalesca makes the guardian into the Final Aeon to fight Sin, then Yu Yevon turns the Final Aeon into Sin, So I guess by that there would be some part of the Guardian left in the Final Aeon hence some bit of the person in Sin. :gasp: But Jecht would be controlling Sin somewhat, because he is always showing up were Tidus is.

imo. I think that's what the thread is about. I kinda got confused halfway.
 
This entire thread should be in spoilers... >_> Perhaps someone can edit the title to include Spoilers or something, considering we can't talk about Sin without giving away so much =\
 
DLFlux said:
Sin looks like some sort of giant whale thing with a load of eyes right?
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Let me confuse the issue right now. I was going to post separately about this, but never mind. At the beginning of the game, Sin attacks Dream Zanarkand, but he does not look like a giant whale thing. He looks like a giant watery sphere. Here's a YouTube video showing it.

This is odd because just after Tidus and Auron see the giant watery sphere and Auron says "We called it Sin", some organic-looking appendage bursts forth from a nearby building and creates the Sinspawn. But not long after Tidus ends up in Spira, Sin appears again when he's on the Al Bhed boat, and this time he certainly looks like a giant whale. Later, when the party is crossing over to Kilika or Luca (can't remember which), you fight Sin's fin, which spawns Sinspawn.

At the very end of the game, we see a giant watery sphere thing coalescing out of a pool on Mount Gagazet, and it zooms in to show that it is made up of lots of little bubbles, each containing an inhabitant of Dream Zanarkand.

Initially, this would lead me to the conclusion that Sin looks like a watery sphere and then later develops into a whale, but it seems that in the game, we have watery-sphere then suddenly a whale, then a watery sphere again.

I don't understand what's going on there.

Which leads me onto this, if Yu Yevon takes over the Final Aeon and transforms it into the next Sin, then why is Braska's Final Aeon inside Sin and not actually the beast flying around destroying towns?
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Yu Yevon takes the Final Aeon and transforms it into the next Sin, but this process takes time, during which the mind of the Fayth (Jecht) still has some consciousness and even some control. Eventually, however, the Final Aeon becomes Sin completely. The physical image of Jecht inside Sin is a projection of Jecht, similar to the way the Bahamut boy can project himself basically anywhere he wants.

This doesn't explain exactly why Jecht becomes "Braska's Final Aeon" though while inside Sin. All I can say to that is that it's probably symbolic of the idea of him becoming Sin "completely". Imagine if you summoned Bahamut and then another Summoner tried to take control of him in a big way - the Fayth's connection to it would waver. But who knows what would happen if you managed to steal someone else's Summon and transform it into something else? The Fayth's projection would get messed up somehow.

DLFlux said:
Am I thinking about this to deeply?
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Ultimately I think LordEternal has the real explanation for this.
 
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Although, I'd like to remind people, using spoilers in a thread like this one, would be ridiculous. The entire thread would be blacked out. There are certain threads that people enter at their own risk. This is one of them
 
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