A Story of A Love... A CloudxAerith Club

[The Witch]

I have watched the commercial of FF VII (along with other commercial of FF VIII, IX, X). And I must say the commercial of FF VII is the real official one; just like the others (even SE has allow FF VII commercial is true). But still, Cloti fans never accepted that. They always bring out some reasons like: "That's commercial is too old to be sure", "So what? That just the past.", "In FFVII:AC Cloud has moved in to live with Tifa. So that commercial is nothing more than a garbage",...

Well, the commercial still exists and that's what matters. Who cares if they don't accept it, we know what's what.

Did SE really say FF VII commercial is false advertisement?
Wow, I didn't see that coming... Because that thing is never real!

I have watched every interview of SE about FF VII and never see SE said anything about the FF VII commercial is false advertisement.

Too much for some fake evidences.

nope, Square Enix has never said VII's commercials were false. That's just fans saying that. :3

Well Squaresoft would've obviously okayed the commercial seeing as they would've paid to have it advertised.. surely? You don't shell out lots of cash to push an idea you don't mean. Maybe they mean it's exagerrated?

I've never heard the argument exaggerated before... and I've debated tons of clotis. And that's what waitress girl mentioned in the LTD thread. Why would SE hand out tons of cash to advertise something false.

Well anyway I only really care about the original game not who said what when and how. When I played it I always thought those two were a couple till she died so...meh.

Me too :3

 

[Loveless Doll]

Well, the commercial still exists and that's what matters. Who cares if they don't accept it, we know what's what.

Yeah. But sometimes, it seems Clerith fans quite... passive (no offense). I meant some Clerith fans didn't fight back when Cloti fans insulting Clerith love. That's made me sometimes think Clerith fans would rather be quiet than fight to gain more problem.

But of course, there is still a few Clerith fans (or more I guess), standed up and kicked Cloti fans for good.

nope, Square Enix has never said VII's commercials were false. That's just fans saying that. :3

By the way, is there any guy support for Clerith or only fan girls? Because when I asked all of my friends (boys) which couples they like most, I always recieved "Cloti"

And the reason is very "simple": Because Tifa is very sexy and even Cloud didn't love her, he still couldn't resist his "body asking".

 

[Kaleta]

I'd love to make you a sig T-T I feel so honored. *moseys to my GIMP* Pssh, you don't have to pay me back, you're my friend I'll do it for free.... althoughhhhhhhhhh you could just promise to get back to your art once you have the time. You're beyond talented and you need to keep at it.

AMAGAWD OKI THEN <333 WHOOO *goes to draw*

Hello Kaleta.

Your sig scares me QQ

I'm gonna be bold and say; I already think they have; the commercial sold it for me, its been the intentions of the FF crew and SE since square one. But maybe that's just me.

Exactly, people keep missing the point. There IS an INTENDED ORIGINAL COUPLE of FFVII, not a FANS PICK THE PAIRING of FFVII. Erm no.

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As for this whole shat that the FFVII commercial isnt canon. BS, the other commercials for other FF games iirc, were made by the same people. SE DID NOT say its not ok, they did NOT say its not canon, nor did they say its an exaggeration. They USED this commercial to advertise FFVII for go sakes. They DID give it an OK.

Think of it like this, the commercial, maiden and everything else that has proved;

- Clorith is the ORIGINAL INTENDED AND CURRENT CANON couple of FFVII
- Aerith loves and prefers Cloud over Zack
- Aerith turns Zack down and tells HIM that SHE prefers CLOUD over HIM.
- Cloud feeling special things for Aerith that he doesnt do to anyone else
- Cloud being called Aerith's Koibito (lover/sweetheart)
- Tifa showing multiple jealousy for a so called "friendship" even AFTER FFVII and AC/ACC.

Are not canon. Why do they say this? Cause it hurts their pairing. If they can prove me ONE quote, just ONE quote FROM SE OR NOMURA, stating any of the SOURCES those things i said above comes from, isnt canon, or should not be used, or was not approved by SE, please feel free to post them. I guarantee it, 10000000% you will not see a post. You will however, see THEIR opinion of why its not canon. But thats an opinion for a reason

 

[The Witch]

@Loveless Doll,

Yeah. But sometimes, it seems Clerith fans quite... passive (no offense). I meant some Clerith fans didn't fight back when Cloti fans insulting Clerith love. That's made me sometimes think Clerith fans would rather be quiet than fight to gain more problem.

But of course, there is still a few Clerith fans (or more I guess), standed up and kicked Cloti fans for good.

Lol, that definitely ain't me. I defend Clourith so much C/T fans have developed a hate for me, so much so they still talk about me xD all that means is that we feel comfortable enough in our pairing that we don't have to shove it down other's throats.

We know how canon our couple is.

By the way, is there any guy support for Clerith or only fan girls? Because when I asked all of my friends (boys) which couples they like most, I always recieved "Cloti"

And the reason is very "simple": Because Tifa is very sexy and even Cloud didn't love her, he still couldn't resist his "body asking".

Well, *points to Harlequin* he's a guy, and he lost a bet so he loves Clourith now.

That's just silly, guys don't fall in love or stay with women solely cuz of their "hot" bodies. Besides, I think Aerith is much more beautiful than Tifa,

Kaleta,

As for this whole shat that the FFVII commercial isnt canon. BS, the other commercials for other FF games iirc, were made by the same people. SE DID NOT say its not ok, they did NOT say its not canon, nor did they say its an exaggeration. They USED this commercial to advertise FFVII for go sakes. They DID give it an OK.

Exactly my point. *nods*

Think of it like this, the commercial, maiden and everything else that has proved;

- Clorith is the ORIGINAL INTENDED AND CURRENT CANON couple of FFVII
- Aerith loves and prefers Cloud over Zack
- Aerith turns Zack down and tells HIM that SHE prefers CLOUD over HIM.
- Cloud feeling special things for Aerith that he doesnt do to anyone else
- Cloud being called Aerith's Koibito (lover/sweetheart)
- Tifa showing multiple jealousy for a so called "friendship" even AFTER FFVII and AC/ACC.

Are not canon. Why do they say this? Cause it hurts their pairing. If they can prove me ONE quote, just ONE quote FROM SE OR NOMURA, stating any of the SOURCES those things i said above comes from, isnt canon, or should not be used, or was not approved by SE, please feel free to post them. I guarantee it, 10000000% you will not see a post. You will however, see THEIR opinion of why its not canon. But thats an opinion for a reason

Yeah, people need to really put their personal opinions aside for a sec to realize what's what. :/

 

[Harlequin]

And the reason is very "simple": Because Tifa is very sexy and even Cloud didn't love her, he still couldn't resist his "body asking".

Can't argue with that.

The guys you're talking to probably don't really care about the ltd and if they do and that's their reason for picking Tifa, it says more about them than it does the ltd tbh

Your sig scares me QQ

You have Cali to thank for that

- Clorith is the ORIGINAL INTENDED AND CURRENT CANON couple of FFVII

I dunno about canon, but I agree with the intended part. In fact when I played the game up until she died I assumed they were a couple

But I think since the game spawned a popular ltd, it would benefit SE to keep the fans debating rather than canonise a pairing.

 

[Loveless Doll]

Well, *points to Harlequin* he's a guy, and he lost a bet so he loves Clourith now.

That's just silly, guys don't fall in love or stay with women solely cuz of their "hot" bodies. Besides, I think Aerith is much more beautiful than Tifa,

Yeah, I know. That's a most meaningless reason I have ever heard

Oh, now you mention it
But if so, he only join because he lost a bet, not because he loves Clerith

Are not canon. Why do they say this? Cause it hurts their pairing. If they can prove me ONE quote, just ONE quote FROM SE OR NOMURA, stating any of the SOURCES those things i said above comes from, isnt canon, or should not be used, or was not approved by SE, please feel free to post them. I guarantee it, 10000000% you will not see a post. You will however, see THEIR opinion of why its not canon. But thats an opinion for a reason

Now, you have shown Cloti fans a lesson, Kaleta

 

[The Witch]

Harlequin,

You have Cali to thank for that

It is scary

I dunno about canon, but I agree with the intended part. In fact when I played the game up until she died I assumed they were a couple

Same.

But I think since the game spawned a popular ltd, it would benefit SE to keep the fans debating rather than canonise a pairing.

Ditto. Which sucks. either way one side of the fan base will get hurt. So they should just get it over with already. xD

But if so, he only join because he lost a bet, not because he loves Clerith

Lol, he likes both, sug xD

 

[Kaleta]

You have Cali to thank for that

*runs away*

I dunno about canon, but I agree with the intended part. In fact when I played the game up until she died I assumed they were a couple

But I think since the game spawned a popular ltd, it would benefit SE to keep the fans debating rather than canonise a pairing.

If something was intended, IMO that makes it canon. The interpretation of you can choose whoever cloud love applies of course. But that doesnt remove the fact there was an intended couple, meaning that was the one SE favoured, making it canon.

SE has clearly stated, that death was not the end of someone. They clearly showed us that in the compilations. Zack lives on as Cloud's legacy and Aerith lives on within Cloud, literally. Their story or how they impact people do not leave cause they die. And with that in mind, i believe that if cloud and aerith were intended, whether she died or not doesnt change that fact.

Now, you have shown Cloti fans a lesson, Kaleta

Lol if it were only as simple as that, which im afraid it isnt.

 

[Kaleta]

**BEWARE, HEAVY INSULTS BY A MORON**

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/2627357/1998389457

had to do it lolz

 

[The Witch]

If something was intended, IMO that makes it canon. The interpretation of you can choose whoever cloud love applies of course. But that doesnt remove the fact there was an intended couple, meaning that was the one SE favoured, making it canon.

I agree, Val. If it was what was intended then it might as well be canon.

SE has clearly stated, that death was not the end of someone. They clearly showed us that in the compilations. Zack lives on as Cloud's legacy and Aerith lives on within Cloud, literally. Their story or how they impact people do not leave cause they die. And with that in mind, i believe that if cloud and aerith were intended, whether she died or not doesnt change that fact.

Exactly. This is proven with Tidus and Yuna. They still loved each other even though they were separated.

Sorry about all those insults, Val. :C

 

[Kaleta]

I agree, Val. If it was what was intended then it might as well be canon.

The fans dont decide whats canon, the creators do. Intended and fanbased is entirely different. Shame some dont see that.

Exactly. This is proven with Tidus and Yuna. They still loved each other even though they were separated.

Sorry about all those insults, Val. :C

If we use the same logic it would be like this. Before FFX2 came out or before you see any hints of Tidus being alive, the fact Yuna was still in love with him means its not healthy. Her fans who supported her are delusional and are stupid. We all know how that turns out eh? ;D

And dont be lol, i welcome them. If they think i'm one of those people who sit back and do nothing, then sorry they are completely wrong.

 

[Celica]

**BEWARE, HEAVY INSULTS BY A MORON**

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/2627357/1998389457

had to do it lolz

Wow...that really sucks that they did that to you. ):
I really hate it when people do crap like that. It's so stupid.

By the way, is there any guy support for Clerith or only fan girls? Because when I asked all of my friends (boys) which couples they like most, I always recieved "Cloti"

And the reason is very "simple": Because Tifa is very sexy and even Cloud didn't love her, he still couldn't resist his "body asking".

Same here. I asked one of my male friends whether he liked Cloti or Clerith and he told me Cloti. He said that Cloud should be with Tifa because she's "hot" and that Aerith was "too boring" and "simple-looking". D:

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I made some Clerith graphics that I wanted to share. You can tell I haven't touched Photoshop in ages. XD

^This one's old. I found it hidden away in the depths of my Photobucket album.

 

[Starships]

I think girls usually head towards Clerith, because it's more pink, girly, and feminine. And Cloti is usually more sexual, and Tifa is a girl that boys would be attracted too really easily. Tifa is like a girl that you would see in a male's fantasy. She's tough, but soft. A good caretaker, long legs, beautiful skin, and large... you know. It would be hard for a guy not to fancy her, and imagine wanting to be with her. Not saying that poor Aerith is ugly, but she's more soft and elegant, something that a female would be more attracted too, while a male would'nt be interested in that, unless he really sees the Clerith relationship, and Cloud and Aerith being together. It sounds so stereotypical, but yeah, just thoughts and thinking....

 

[The Witch]

If we use the same logic it would be like this. Before FFX2 came out or before you see any hints of Tidus being alive, the fact Yuna was still in love with him means its not healthy. Her fans who supported her are delusional and are stupid. We all know how that turns out eh? ;D

Exactly, Val. :33 Do people honestly think Yuna was a necrophiliac for still loving Tidus even though he had been gone/dead for 2 years? No. It was just romantic then. But when it's about Cloud>Aerith everyone always says how necro it is. Well, it's BS. We don't know what the future holds for VII. Maybe, Nomura will make Aerith come back... who knows. I'm sure NO ONE foresaw Tidus being brought back, I definitely didn't, that's for sure.

So, if Yuna could still love Tidus, Cloud sure as heck can still love Aerith. Especially since Cloud can feel/touch/and see Aerith.

Same here. I asked one of my male friends whether he liked Cloti or Clerith and he told me Cloti. He said that Cloud should be with Tifa because she's "hot" and that Aerith was "too boring" and "simple-looking". D:

Pfft, well, all that matters is Cloud thinks she's impressive.

And I LOVE those sigs, they're so pretty. :33

I think girls usually head towards Clerith, because it's more pink, girly, and feminine. And Cloti is usually more sexual, and Tifa is a girl that boys would be attracted too really easily. Tifa is like a girl that you would see in a male's fantasy. She's tough, but soft. A good caretaker, long legs, beautiful skin, and large... you know. It would be hard for a guy not to fancy her, and imagine wanting to be with her. Not saying that poor Aerith is ugly, but she's more soft and elegant, something that a female would be more attracted too, while a male would'nt be interested in that, unless he really sees the Clerith relationship, and Cloud and Aerith being together. It sounds so stereotypical, but yeah, just thoughts and thinking....

I don't know... I hate when guys like a girl more cuz she's got bigger breasts. And if I can be honest, I think Aerith is far far more beautiful than Tifa. Tifa's just kinda bland while Aerith just stands out.

Still, whether or not that's true, what matters is that Cloud finds attributes in Aerith attractive.

 

[Kaleta]

Wow...that really sucks that they did that to you. ):
I really hate it when people do crap like that. It's so stupid.

Oh no its ok xD i dont mind it. I've more tough skin than people think.

While they were busy typing their long ass essay about how much of a "meanie" i am, i was busy eating nutella with my BF and laughing at the pictures at lolberg.com xD

I made some Clerith graphics that I wanted to share. You can tell I haven't touched Photoshop in ages. XD

^This one's old. I found it hidden away in the depths of my Photobucket album.

OH MY GOD. Thats amazing, you are very talented!

I think girls usually head towards Clerith, because it's more pink, girly, and feminine. And Cloti is usually more sexual, and Tifa is a girl that boys would be attracted too really easily. Tifa is like a girl that you would see in a male's fantasy. She's tough, but soft. A good caretaker, long legs, beautiful skin, and large... you know. It would be hard for a guy not to fancy her, and imagine wanting to be with her. Not saying that poor Aerith is ugly, but she's more soft and elegant, something that a female would be more attracted too, while a male would'nt be interested in that, unless he really sees the Clerith relationship, and Cloud and Aerith being together. It sounds so stereotypical, but yeah, just thoughts and thinking....

THIS ^

IMO, those guys who like cloti because tifa is more sexual is actually picturing themselves as Cloud as he is the object of her affection. So thus technically, cloti isnt the name they should call it, more like Meoti. Those who actually are talking about the pairing will mostly accept Clorith cause its a pure love. Who the hell wants a love based on how big the girls boobs are, apart from those shallow ones?

The girls imo who love cloti are girls who WANT to be like Tifa. They want to have everything about her. The fact shes hot and can fight can bring you endless joys for your imagination. They are suckers for a love that is one sided. They also like the thought of childhood friends, especially with a hottie like Cloud.

I know several guys who like clorith, 3 of them are in the cxa forums and the others are RL friends. They like it cause they say they are a sucker for a tragic love ( but admit its love ), they like the fact that Cloud cant function without her properly which shows how much he feels about her, and the fact that they are yin and yang, balancing each other.

Exactly, Val. :33 Do people honestly think Yuna was a necrophiliac for still loving Tidus even though he had been gone/dead for 2 years? No. It was just romantic then. But when it's about Cloud>Aerith everyone always says how necro it is. Well, it's BS. We don't know what the future holds for VII. Maybe, Nomura will make Aerith come back... who knows. I'm sure NO ONE foresaw Tidus being brought back, I definitely didn't, that's for sure.

So, if Yuna could still love Tidus, Cloud sure as heck can still love Aerith. Especially since Cloud can feel/touch/and see Aerith.

Thats sick =/ It only applies to Cloud and Aerith cause its one of their stupid ideas to deny it. Well sorry dude, whether you think its necrophiliac or not canon, doesnt mean it is. Your opinion < SE's.

I don't know... I hate when guys like a girl more cuz she's got bigger breasts. And if I can be honest, I think Aerith is far far more beautiful than Tifa. Tifa's just kinda bland while Aerith just stands out.

Still, whether or not that's true, what matters is that Cloud finds attributes in Aerith attractive.

Body wise, Tifa owns. Face wise, Aerith owns. Physical fighting, Tifa owns. Magical fighting, Aerith owns. Personality wise, Aerith. She's optimistic, open and always happy no matter what. Tifa is secretive, doubtful and hidden. The manuals may say Tifa is optimistic and whatever, but it also says that Cloud is a SOLIDER, which he is not. So the same applies to Tifa.

Aerith has eyes just like Cloud, they speak for themselves. Tifa's always look like they are fierce, like shes always behind a wall.

People think Aerith is weak cause you dont see her fighting much, but fawk im sure if you pit aerith agaisnt tifa, Aerith will win. Not only could tifa NOT hit aerith, IF she could aerith would out heal her. And the day Tifa can dodge Holy, is the day i become president.

 

[Saints&Storms]

I think girls usually head towards Clerith, because it's more pink, girly, and feminine. And Cloti is usually more sexual, and Tifa is a girl that boys would be attracted too really easily. Tifa is like a girl that you would see in a male's fantasy. She's tough, but soft. A good caretaker, long legs, beautiful skin, and large... you know. It would be hard for a guy not to fancy her, and imagine wanting to be with her. Not saying that poor Aerith is ugly, but she's more soft and elegant, something that a female would be more attracted too, while a male would'nt be interested in that, unless he really sees the Clerith relationship, and Cloud and Aerith being together. It sounds so stereotypical, but yeah, just thoughts and thinking....

I find Aerith attractive, she's sexy in my opinion -- she's just not sexual, there is a difference, I think. A woman can be sexy without being sexual. Aerith has exotic eyes, porcelain skin, very luscious hair, sexy hips and obviously a good butt, these are all of the things that make her sexy -- I think Tifa and Aerith are sexy in their own ways.

Aeriths sexy in a mysterious way, she's the kind of sexy that makes women admire her.

But anyway I don't think the sexiness of either woman should cause people to ship said pair, I think it should depend on the facts. If people are pairing Cloud off with Tifa simply cause she turns them on; then I don't know what to say.

Exactly, people keep missing the point. There IS an INTENDED ORIGINAL COUPLE of FFVII, not a FANS PICK THE PAIRING of FFVII. Erm no.

Its not being missed, its being ignored in my opinion. Its suits people better if they can sweep certain things under the rug.

 

[Loveless Doll]

Harlequin,

Can't argue with that.
The guys you're talking to probably don't really care about the ltd and if they do and that's their reason for picking Tifa, it says more about them than it does the ltd tbh

Well, What can I say?
You are the first guy, who likes Clerith, have said some sense words I have ever met

Tsukimori,

Same here. I asked one of my male friends whether he liked Cloti or Clerith and he told me Cloti. He said that Cloud should be with Tifa because she's "hot" and that Aerith was "too boring" and "simple-looking". D:

Glad to meet you Tsukimori
It seems we have the same circumstances

But I must say I hated the guy you asked who had said "Aerith was "too boring" and "simple-looking"". Yeah right, if so, why there are still a tons of people (specially including "Mr. NOT Personality") who madly in love with Aerith even she is "too boring" and "simple-looking"?!

By the way, the graphics you had post very beautiful. I love them

Calico,

I don't know... I hate when guys like a girl more cuz she's got bigger breasts. And if I can be honest, I think Aerith is far far more beautiful than Tifa. Tifa's just kinda bland while Aerith just stands out.
Still, whether or not that's true, what matters is that Cloud finds attributes in Aerith attractive.

Same here
In my mind, Aerith always at number 1!

Everytime I talked with my guy friends, I could really get pissed off if they "involuntary" said something insulting Aerith just for their "hot hot babe Tifa" and I would make sure they couldn't sleep well that night

Kaleta,
People think Aerith is weak cause you dont see her fighting much, but fawk im sure if you pit aerith agaisnt tifa, Aerith will win. Not only could tifa NOT hit aerith, IF she could aerith would out heal her. And the day Tifa can dodge Holy, is the day i become president.

Kaleta, you have made my day!!

Also, you did remind me about a picture I have seen long ago.
A signature pic with Marlene asked Tifa: "Tifa, what did Cloud mean when he said he would only be with you when chocobos can fly?"

 

[Celica]

Do people honestly think Yuna was a necrophiliac for still loving Tidus even though he had been gone/dead for 2 years? No. It was just romantic then. But when it's about Cloud>Aerith everyone always says how necro it is.

Yeah, everyone was fine with Yuna loving Tidus even though he was gone, but all of the sudden it's taboo for Cloud to love Aerith even though she's gone :/

Pfft, well, all that matters is Cloud thinks she's impressive.

And I LOVE those sigs, they're so pretty. :33

Agreed. At the end of the day, it's all about what Cloud thinks about her.
And thank you, i'm glad you like them! :3

Glad to meet you Tsukimori

Nice to meet you too! ~

But I must say I hated the guy you asked who had said "Aerith was "too boring" and "simple-looking"". Yeah right, if so, why there are still a tons of people (specially including "Mr. NOT Personality") who madly in love with Aerith even she is "too boring" and "simple-looking"?!

Yeah, I didn't agree with what he said either. I couldn't figure how he thought Aerith was "simple and boring looking". O__o

OH MY GOD. Thats amazing, you are very talented!

Really? Thank you so much!

 

[Saints&Storms]

Yeah, everyone was fine with Yuna loving Tidus even though he was gone, but all of the sudden it's taboo for Cloud to love Aerith even though she's gone :/

I think people just don't want to acceptr that Cloud will always love Aerith, and would like better off for Tifa not to be Cloud...erm..for lack of a better expression, second choice...if he even got with her.

I think even Nomura have cmpared Tidus and Yuna to Cloud and Aerith before, its a vague memory but I feintly remember it.

Nice sigs by the by, can't believe I glossed over them, they are fantastical, I love the first one's fan art absolutely cute :3

@Kaleta,
People think Aerith is weak cause you dont see her fighting much, but fawk im sure if you pit aerith agaisnt tifa, Aerith will win. Not only could tifa NOT hit aerith, IF she could aerith would out heal her. And the day Tifa can dodge Holy, is the day i become president.


I agree, but I'd hate for people to pit the two against eachother, Aerith would never hurt her friends, but should the battle take place...all bets on Aerith.

Can't argue with that.
The guys you're talking to probably don't really care about the ltd and if they do and that's their reason for picking Tifa, it says more about them than it does the ltd tbh

I agree, and my older brothers both like Clerith more, well I say this, solely based on the fact that they call Aerith the "Girlfriend", they never really get into it though xD

I don't know... I hate when guys like a girl more cuz she's got bigger breasts. And if I can be honest, I think Aerith is far far more beautiful than Tifa. Tifa's just kinda bland while Aerith just stands out.

Still, whether or not that's true, what matters is that Cloud finds attributes in Aerith attractive.

I agree, I mean, I am not gay (you know that though ), but Aerith is sexy/ier and I just like her looks more, I mean having a great ass beats having big breast anyday. Tifa doesn't really stand out among the anime cliche of women...Aerith does.

But... thats my opinion I guess

 

[Kaleta]

I find Aerith attractive, she's sexy in my opinion -- she's just not sexual, there is a difference, I think. A woman can be sexy without being sexual. Aerith has exotic eyes, porcelain skin, very luscious hair, sexy hips and obviously a good butt, these are all of the things that make her sexy -- I think Tifa and Aerith are sexy in their own ways.

Aeriths sexy in a mysterious way, she's the kind of sexy that makes women admire her.

Exactly, Aerith is sexy and so is Tifa. The difference is that Tifa's sexy is "in your face" when aerith's beauty is overshadowed cause Tifa is in the spotlight too much.

Fawk even Yuffie is pretty, but cause Tifa's sexy is up front, you dont really need to look at the others. She was MADE for fanservice, if her sexy isnt upfront, shes doing a bad job.

But anyway I don't think the sexiness of either woman should cause people to ship said pair, I think it should depend on the facts. If people are pairing Cloud off with Tifa simply cause she turns them on; then I don't know what to say.

Exactly. They pair cloud with the lady THEY would like to be with or would like to be, cause its part of your imagination. You imagine yourself in place of your OTP one way or another, that goes for clorith too. I like the thought of cxa's relationship IRL cause to me it shows true love. The guy loves you even after death and it means your connection is far stronger than life or death. But i'd never say cause i love that kind of relationship i think Cloud and Aerith are meant to be. I say it cause thats what i see is being said to me by SE. Cause i love childhood friends, i think that relationship is sweet and cute and are usually what youd expect.

Its not being missed, its being ignored in my opinion. Its suits people better if they can sweep certain things under the rug.

Most of our arguments when debating a cloti end up that way. If they cannot argue agaisnt it, the ones i have encountered will sweep it under the carpet and pretend its invalid cause they say so. They will say its canon, but again SE never says that. Thats just them thinking their opinion is as valuable as SE's.

Kaleta, you have made my day!!

Also, you did remind me about a picture I have seen long ago.
A signature pic with Marlene asked Tifa: "Tifa, what did Cloud mean when he said he would only be with you when chocobos can fly?"

I know which picture you are talking about, though i dont think it said "chocobos can fly", i think it was something like;

"Tifa, what did Cloud mean when he said he'd rather live here and wait to die than stay with you"

It was a picture of them in Aerith's church. Which in all honesty, is what Cloud did want to happen. He didnt even try to fight geostigma and Tifa clearly says to Cloud something along the lines of him giving up and waiting to die. Funny though, the place he wanted to wait and die was Aerith's church ....

I think people just don't want to acceptr that Cloud will always love Aerith, and would like better off for Tifa not to be Cloud...erm..for lack of a better expression, second choice...if he even got with her.

They claim that its "healthy" for Cloud to move on. You can be healthy and still love someone who has passed ... There are some who say that Tifa is the second choice, and even if Cloud did love Aerith he HAS to move on with Tifa cause shes the only one left. Well technically thats not what the LT was originally about. Before all the compilation crap came out, the argument was "Who was the ORIGINAL, INTENDED AND CANON couple". Not who will Cloud end up in the end, which if they really want to get into it. Cloud will die and be with Aerith after. End of.

No matter how far you look into the future, Tifa and Cloud could get together and whatever, at the end of the day, he will die and go back to Aerith. Why? Cause they keep saying cause Aerith is with Zack in the lifestream she HAS to go back to him. I say when Cloud meets them in the lifestream he HAS to go back to her. Using their logic agaisnt them one stupid line at a time.

I think even Nomura have cmpared Tidus and Yuna to Cloud and Aerith before, its a vague memory but I feintly remember it.

I dont remember that but i do remember him saying that FF10 and FF7 are worlds connected or linked together. If you remember Shinra from FF10 speaks about the lifestream. Which is where i think Tidus went when he "died", if there is a lifestream for them of course.

Which also got me thinking, the fayths ( is it fayths? dont remember ) brought Tidus back, if FF7 also gets them or the two worlds somehow get connected, im pretty sure Aerith can come back too. Since both SHE and Cloud did save the planet. And the fayths gave Tidus back to Yuna cause of the stuff she did for her planet.

I agree, but I'd hate for people to pit the two against eachother, Aerith would never hurt her friends, but should the battle take place...all bets on Aerith.

They ARE best friends. They would never fight each other or hold a grudge about the LT. But IMO tifa holds more negative feelings for Aerith than the other way around. We never see Aerith claiming she is jealous of Tifa or annoyed at the bond she and Cloud have. But Tifa HAS expressed these feelings. Its no use saying Aerith also experiences these but we just dont see it cause guess what? Unless SE says she does, then she doesnt. Putting words into SE's story is a nono.

But like you said, it has to be with Aerith. If Aerith doesnt want to fight tifa, she can just keep healing and Tifa will wear herself out and give up.

II agree, and my older brothers both like Clerith more, well I say this, solely based on the fact that they call Aerith the "Girlfriend", they never really get into it though xD

When i went to ACTUAL NEUTRAL final fantasy forums, most of the people who discuss about the game all say Aerith is Cloud's girlfriend. Even on my ragnarok forum which a HATER of the game claims that Clouds motivation to kill sephy cause he killed his girlfriend is really "pathetic". Even though he mocks the characters, hes quite accurate in stating their roles.