PSP2 and Nintendo 3DS
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I think the PSP2 should be released after the 3DS so sony can have a looksie at what the 3DS does so they can better it.
The PSP sucked unfortunately and didn't do as well as sony had hoped i am sure.
I think this time they need to be extra careful with it.
I think I would still eventually buy both the 3DS and the PSP2 depending on what games were on both.
(I hope I answered the question correctly, I got a bit confused
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The PSP sucked unfortunately and didn't do as well as sony had hoped i am sure.
I think this time they need to be extra careful with it.
I think I would still eventually buy both the 3DS and the PSP2 depending on what games were on both.
(I hope I answered the question correctly, I got a bit confused
)Basically what I was asking, was that if you learned that for example the PSP2 would be as powerful as the PS3 and the 3DS would only be as powerful as the PS2, if it would affect your buying decision of the 3DS.(I hope I answered the question correctly, I got a bit confused
As of September 2010, 62 million PSPs have been sold around the world, and I'm willing to add at least a million more to that number as of now.
The PSP Go! was the more perceived failure I think, but the actual PSP did pretty well.
As of right now, I only know of games on the 3DS. Once I know what games the PSP2 will have, than I can decide which system I'll buy first (it sucks, but I have a feeling I'll eventually buy both >_>)
No. The power of a console doesn't actually mean that much to me. What does count is the library of games on offer. If I see that the PSP2 has a range of games that interest me far greater than what the 3DS has to offer, then I would go for the PSP2 (and the same for the 3DS if that has the better range of games for me) regardless of whether which one is more powerful.
And as the PSP has shown, greater power is not exactly synonymous with success.
And as the PSP has shown, greater power is not exactly synonymous with success.
yes but compare that the the DS or any other console and its not really that much, and it also took them a very long time to get to those figures.
Also I think a lot of people bought the PSP because of the easy hax.
lol, true enough-the DS has more than double the amount of PSPs sold xD
But compared to other consoles, it's still ahead of the XBOX 360, PS3, and loses to the Wii by about 10 million.
Although more PS2 were sold than the DS, so...
(I love how Wiki makes me seem so smart
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I still can't say the PSP was a failure though. I have a hard time believing Sony didn't make some decent money off the PSP
But compared to other consoles, it's still ahead of the XBOX 360, PS3, and loses to the Wii by about 10 million.
Although more PS2 were sold than the DS, so...
(I love how Wiki makes me seem so smart
)I still can't say the PSP was a failure though. I have a hard time believing Sony didn't make some decent money off the PSP
The 3DS is crap. Re-recycled ports, an eye strain of a 3D gimmick and an outrageous price. I can't say I've heard much about the PSP2 but I may purchase a PSP in the future, just for Dissidia and Birth By Sleep. I'm fine with my DSi and the library of games I have for it, some of which I still need to complete.
If you mean powerful as in better performance, graphics, firaware and what not, of course the PSP2 will. The PSP is a computer, it will be more powerful than the 3DS. Though the 3DS is looking be the coolest Nintendo handheld yet.
It can emulate graphics that are absolutely lovely (and from what I saw, possible more "sharp" than the current PSP). The DS series has never failed to provide great games, and neither has the PSP -- God of War, come on, its Kratos! :3
I will buy both, if I can. If the 3DS is really going to be 200+ dollars, No. If the PSP2 is going to be 200+ dollars, no. With that kind of money, I can by an actual system like a PS3 or a better computer or a upgrade to my current PC.
But if the prices are reasonable, then I will definitely save up and buy them. I'm only asking myself "which is first"? and "which might have the FF5/6 remakes"?
Um, "crap"? Don't you think you're exaggerating it just a bit? "crap" would mean its (the DS series) not the second best system selling worldwide. "crap" would mean its (the DS series) not the best handheld system.
Have you seen how the 3DS looks? What kind of engine it can run? The specs of the 3DS is simply amazing and it looked amazing before this one (see FFIV's movies!) on the regular DS!
If you mean powerful as in better performance, graphics, firaware and what not, of course the PSP2 will. The PSP is a computer, it will be more powerful than the 3DS. Though the 3DS is looking be the coolest Nintendo handheld yet.
It can emulate graphics that are absolutely lovely (and from what I saw, possible more "sharp" than the current PSP). The DS series has never failed to provide great games, and neither has the PSP -- God of War, come on, its Kratos! :3
I will buy both, if I can. If the 3DS is really going to be 200+ dollars, No. If the PSP2 is going to be 200+ dollars, no. With that kind of money, I can by an actual system like a PS3 or a better computer or a upgrade to my current PC.
But if the prices are reasonable, then I will definitely save up and buy them. I'm only asking myself "which is first"? and "which might have the FF5/6 remakes"?
Um, "crap"? Don't you think you're exaggerating it just a bit? "crap" would mean its (the DS series) not the second best system selling worldwide. "crap" would mean its (the DS series) not the best handheld system.
Have you seen how the 3DS looks? What kind of engine it can run? The specs of the 3DS is simply amazing and it looked amazing before this one (see FFIV's movies!) on the regular DS!
Did I say anything bad about the DS, or the DSi? No. I said the 3DS was crap. I saw E3, so yes, I saw how it looks. Its graphics are somewhat comparable to the Wii, however graphics don't make a game. However, that doesn't change the fact that you're going to be paying out of the ass for a lame gimmick that shouldn't be in most movies, which in result will give you even more headaches and eye strain than regular games do, the developers even said that last bit. Not to mention, the re-recycled N64 ports seem to be the main highlight, beneath the 3D aspect, anyway. Why is this bad? Well, did you know that the battery life of the 3DS is 3-5 hours? That's also its charge time, which is terrible.
I already have a Wii AND all of the VC titles I want on it. So, there's no sense in purchasing them again only to be able to play them on a lower resolution handheld for a less amount of time. Sure, your 3DS may not die on one outing but it will through constant use, barely constant use. I know the 3DS may seem magnificent at first, however I can see through the aspects they're trying to sell to us. It may be shiny, but it's a shiny turd.
^ Just to pipe up on the battery life thing, I think the amount is only if you use all the settings at full. It should last longer if you lower brightness, sound, 3D effects, etc
........Didn't you read my post? Its still a DS. That's why I said:
@therestofyourpost:
Who said graphics was all that matters? I simply brought up the ENGINES it could emulate. Do you know what an Engine is? Graphics is just a plus side to the system. They are pretty durable (not as good as I hoped it would be though), they have great, secure firmaware, great options for editing settings, great add-on software, a company that actually supports and answers your questions. Those are just some of things the DS SERIES (I'm talking about them all, even the 3DS which is DS lol)
And? The other one had a similar battery life (If used without making it dark and harmful for the eyes), yet its the second best system in the world. Just because the battery life is low, you call it crap? That seems like you jumped ahead and bashed it for no good reason at all, really. You must remember certain things about battery life before you say its terrible. This 3DS will have the same basics the others had: lighting, the touch-pad, backlights, volume control and everything else, which determines the batter life in total.
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Um, my DS, Dsi and GBA all take 4-5 hours to charge anyway. The difference? None...
About the DS series battery life said:
As you can see for the above, 5-8 hours and I know LOTS of people with the DS system. As owner of the system, you dictate how much battery life it has. It has always been this way. It still counts for the 3DS.
Wait...let me see if I read that right. Correct me if I didn't please, its pretty late here.
You think they are selling previous titles again on this new system? No, just no. They might RE-sale previous titles, but they will be selling completely new titles as well. Where did you get that from?
I rest my case.
You bash that which you don't understand. You bash with senseless "reasons as to why its 'crap' " and obvious bias.
The 3DS is a different system from the DS and DSi. Just because it has DS in the freaking title, doesn't mean it's the same, if that were the case, it wouldn't be sold as a completely DIFFERENT system. Do I know what an engine is? Well, I know that the vertex performance barely outdoes the iPhone, and pales in comparison to the PSP. It may become the first handheld to allow programmable shaders, but that will only benefit them much later on, as in, whenever a better version of the 3DS comes out and won't necessarily correspond to a confirmation of claims that that the 3DS would be more powerful than the fixed-pipeline GPU found in the Wii.
And what proof do you have that the posted battery life was done so during high volume use and increased brightness? Show me an official statement from Nintendo or your words hold no water.
Wait...let me see if I read that right. Correct me if I didn't please, its pretty late here.
You think they are selling previous titles again on this new system? No, just no. They might RE-sale previous titles, but they will be selling completely new titles as well. Where did you get that from?
I rest my case.
You bash that which you don't understand. You bash with senseless "reasons as to why its 'crap' " and obvious bias.
Are you unaware that N64 title are being re-recycled onto the 3DS? I know that other titles are also being made for it, but that doesn't change the fact that they're trying to sell the same crap to everyone again. As I looked over the entire list of projected titles, I only saw two that interested me. At that price, I don't think it's worth it right now.
At the moment, I'd be inclined to agree with this. At least until I see some new games that are actually worth it for me, or until I see the price, which I suspect will be at least £150 over here.
As for buying a PSP2 over a 3DS...I'll just get both. Nintendo are always at a disadvantage when it comes to console power. That doesn't stop them selling more than everyone else, or producing some excellent quality games. I'd be quite happy with simplistic sprites for graphics, just so long as the gameplay is top-notch, so I could care less about what the console is capable of. Christ, no game ever pushes a console to it's limits anyway!
Okay folks, can't we just agree to disagree instead of fighting about it? So please, lets not get heated about a discussion over a handheld game system. Carry on.
I never said they aren't different, but that they are of the DS line. I said that like ten times
I said this.
As you can see, I'm talking about the Ds series in all. Whether you want to believe it or not, the 3DS is a part of the DS series.
.... first, I'm not quiet sure what you mean by the bolded, but I'm going to assume you mean "what proof do you have that the battery life, increases or decreases, with different settings?"
If that's what you meant (if not, please rephrase). I did post it. Though anyone with a DS/DSi/lit or GBA can tell you the same thing. In fact, someone already posted it before I had xD
You can find this in many different ways. One, Google is your friend. 2, if you owned a DS manual (books and box) would tell you things like this. 3, if you checked the Nintendo site for the DS battery life.
But hey, you can check here for the battery life of both the DS/DSi system and the 3DS. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/spec/index.html
Or you can check here and here. But again, if you're more of the "official Nintendo comment" guy, then check out the first link I gave and then the next and the quote. Though you'll have to either translate it, or read Japanese. But either way, that's how the charge life works. It depends on how you use it.
Did you own any of the systems? If so, did it come with the boxes or manuals/books? You can, I believe, find it there as well.
If you own a system (I didn't believe the settings thing either until I tried it xD ), you can test it. Play a fully charged system with the highest settings, brightest light and whatnot and then time how long it lasts. And then do the same for medium and then low and then no volume. You'll see the vast differences. Its just like a battery MP4 player. If you have the music blasted, the battery will die a lot faster.
And if those aren't enough, maybe many other people saying the exact thing will help you...? I really can't prove it anymore than this if Nintendo, DS series, people using it and whatnot, doesn't.... xD
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27548761&page=3
I am aware of that. Ports and remakes are made all the time, for EVERY system lol
Are you aware 1 or 4 (or the amount it is now) titles doesn't add up to all the games releasing for the 3DS? Didn't you see all the new titles being released at the show? Did you even watch all the shows.....?
Oh, but they aren't all going to be previously released games. They are remaking Zelda and maybe a few others, but we'll have more new games than old.
@blakstang98:
I wasn't trying start a heated fight, I was just replying. But I'm sorry if I had.
I guess there isn't much point in debating it either. I suppose people with the systems know what I posted is correct. Not much more I can tell Kelranox to prove it, so I suppose I'll just leave it like this xD
I never said they aren't different, but that they are of the DS line. I said that like ten times
I said this.
As you can see, I'm talking about the Ds series in all. Whether you want to believe it or not, the 3DS is a part of the DS series.
What does that have to do with my points? I understand it is a DS, considering it has DS in the freaking name. However, it's still DIFFERENT from them in the aspect that it's being sold as a 3DS. It's not a DSi, DS Lite or DS.
first, I'm not quiet sure what you mean by the bolded, but I'm going to assume you mean "what proof do you have that the battery life, increases or decreases, with different settings?"
If that's what you meant (if not, please rephrase). I did post it. Though anyone with a DS/DSi/lit or GBA can tell you the same thing. In fact, someone already posted it before I had xD
You can find this in many different ways. One, Google is your friend. 2, if you owned a DS manual (books and box) would tell you things like this. 3, if you checked the Nintendo site for the DS battery life.
But hey, you can check here for the battery life of both the DS/DSi system and the 3DS. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/spec/index.html
Or you can check here and here. But again, if you're more of the "official Nintendo comment" guy, then check out the first link I gave and then the next and the quote. Though you'll have to either translate it, or read Japanese. But either way, that's how the charge life works. It depends on how you use it.
Did you own any of the systems? If so, did it come with the boxes or manuals/books? You can, I believe, find it there as well.
If you own a system (I didn't believe the settings thing either until I tried it xD ), you can test it. Play a fully charged system with the highest settings, brightest light and whatnot and then time how long it lasts. And then do the same for medium and then low and then no volume. You'll see the vast differences. Its just like a battery MP4 player. If you have the music blasted, the battery will die a lot faster.
And if those aren't enough, maybe many other people saying the exact thing will help you...? I really can't prove it anymore than this if Nintendo, DS series, people using it and whatnot, doesn't.... xD
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27548761&page=3
I am aware of that. Ports and remakes are made all the time, for EVERY system lol
You're misunderstanding me on 2934802384093284 levels. I've been gaming since I was three, I have owned a GB Color, GBA, DS and now currently own a DSi. I'm aware of what makes a battery drain in a handheld, as I'm not mentally challenged. The point I was trying to make was...
The projected hours that Nintendo have posted for the battery life/charge time is 3-5 hours. Yet, you insist that this time is only the projected time with ALL settings maxed out, those being volume, brightness, etc. What I asked was, how do you know that 3-5 hours coincides to all settings being at max? Is this from an official statement from a developer? If not, your statement holds no water.
Are you aware 1 or 4 (or the amount it is now) titles doesn't add up to all the games releasing for the 3DS? Didn't you see all the new titles being released at the show? Did you even watch all the shows.....?
Oh, but they aren't all going to be previously released games. They are remaking Zelda and maybe a few others, but we'll have more new games than old.
*sigh* I don't think you're even reading what I'm typing. You're just adding in the same comments over and over. Yes, as I said before, I'm freaking aware that a lineup of NEW games are coming in addition to the re-recyled N64 ports. After looking at the lineup of NEW games that I'm WELL aware are being made, only two interest me. Which isn't enough to warrant a purchase, especially considering all of the other flaws.
Wow dude, no need to have that kind of temper, okay? I don't even know why you are freaking out. xD
I never said you were mentally challenged. >.> You asked me something and I replied, civilly, something you haven't been doing....
I posted Nintendo links. Did you look at them or not? Oh, and certain games will also conserve or use, energy and kill the battery faster or slower.
It all depends on how you use it and that is all I was trying to tell you.
But no, I have not repeated my posts other than showing you what you misunderstand. For example, me having to explain why the 3DS is a series after you read a post that I already explained it. Those are the only instances in which I "repeated" myself. It was for the sake of you not being confused and to clear the assumptions you had made.
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Oh, and you have no evidence to support those "flaws" as the system hasn't come out yet (that I'm aware of! lol). You are basing those "flaws" on battery life and a few titles being remade/ported to the new system.
If you had read my posts, you would have see me talking about the similarities in battery life of all the DS models and that they are all like this. As I've quoted myself saying quiet a few times now:
Now, just so I don't confuse anymore (since I obviously had?), I was talking about the similarity between the DS models about their battery life. Each is low, each has can be higher if used correctly. I'm sorry you didn't understand and I'm sorry I was confusing.
As of I, actually. Three or two. What does age have to do with anything...? I too own a GBC, GBA, DS, DSi, DSlite, PSP and many other systems liek NES, Snes, PSX, PS2, Xbox, Xbox 360, N46, Sega Dreamcast, Saturn, Sega Genesis and almost every system I can nearly think of. All piled up in my closet. Heckles, I've built PCs from scratch. I know coding. I've made video games. I've written code in Ruby and Java before.
I never said you were mentally challenged. >.> You asked me something and I replied, civilly, something you haven't been doing....
I didn't insist that which you thought I did. I said you could boost hours like you can with any DS by conserving energy by settings. I never argued the fact that its only 3-5 hours, you assumed that I had.
I posted Nintendo links. Did you look at them or not? Oh, and certain games will also conserve or use, energy and kill the battery faster or slower.
It all depends on how you use it and that is all I was trying to tell you.
Again, you asked for something and I replied. I repeated my "point" I didn't repeat my posts wholly. Yes yes, I repeated my points and reasons as to why the charge time and similarities are the same for the DS series and the new system.
But no, I have not repeated my posts other than showing you what you misunderstand. For example, me having to explain why the 3DS is a series after you read a post that I already explained it. Those are the only instances in which I "repeated" myself. It was for the sake of you not being confused and to clear the assumptions you had made.
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Oh, and you have no evidence to support those "flaws" as the system hasn't come out yet (that I'm aware of! lol). You are basing those "flaws" on battery life and a few titles being remade/ported to the new system.
As of I, actually. Three or two. What does age have to do with anything...? I too own a GBC, GBA, DS, DSi, DSlite, PSP and many other systems liek NES, Snes, PSX, PS2, Xbox, Xbox 360, N46, Sega Dreamcast, Saturn, Sega Genesis and almost every system I can nearly think of. All piled up in my closet. Heckles, I've built PCs from scratch. I know coding. I've made video games. I've written code in Ruby and Java before.
I didn't insist that which you thought I did. I said you could boost hours like you can with any DS by conserving energy by settings. I never argued the fact that its only 3-5 hours, you assumed that I had.
I posted Nintendo links. Did you look at them or not? Oh, and certain games will also conserve or use, energy and kill the battery faster or slower.
It all depends on how you use it and that is all I was trying to tell you.
It is a FACT that the 3DS will only last 3-5 hours, as that's been posted by official Nintendo developers. I didn't just pull this bit of information out of my ass. Again, you didn't post a link disproving my statement, ergo, yours holds no water.
But no, I have not repeated my posts other than showing you what you misunderstand. For example, me having to explain why the 3DS is a series after you read a post that I already explained it. Those are the only instances in which I "repeated" myself. It was for the sake of you not being confused and to clear the assumptions you had made.
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Oh, and you have no evidence to support those "flaws" as the system hasn't come out yet (that I'm aware of! lol). You are basing those "flaws" on battery life and a few titles being remade/ported to the new system.
I didn't misinterpret anything. For some weird reason, you assumed I had the knowledge of a four year old pertaining to battery life in handhelds, which insinuates that you were talking down to me. You also refrained from acknowledging my question, which was..and I'll post it for a third freaking time and will continue posting it until you answer it: Given that Official Nintendo Developers released a statement regarding the battery life/charge time of a 3DS lasting 3-5 hours, how do you know that this posted battery life is only comparable to a 3DS that is being used at maximum capacity? When I ask this, don't show me a list of past handhelds and their battery life/charge capacity. As that doesn't pertain to the conversation at all.