Did brothers incest-ish crush on yuna creep you out?

...you question my logic? The fact that I don't get off on family pressing flesh makes you question my logic? I think it's pretty obvious WHY I don't exactly get off on incest. Inbred people aren't exactly the healthiest people in the world. Most of them turn out mentally retarded or ill. I don't think I should have to sit here and explain myself to you. Like I said before, I'm not Japanese. I don't live in Japan. I grew up in an entirely different culture. Also, how does that give me a warped view? Explain please because I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Also, as I said before, you don't have cousins right? How would you know if it's sick or not? I'm just questioning YOU now. And, I reiterate, if a person gets off on incest more power to them. I just don't.
 
Ok, this is stupid. Why would it bother people sooo much what OTHER people are doing, especially games characters. I completely agree that people are good to do whatever they wish be it incest, necrophilia or any commit any other taboo feat, as long is it doesn't include me. I'm not saying I'm for any such thing, but everyone has there own "thing" and in this day and age NOTHING surprises me. The reason i haven't been so active lately is really just been more busy with another forum and if you saw the content there, incest would be the VERY least of your discussions. I wouldn't be surprised to find that some people now-a-day have an "incest fetish", nothing seems to far fetched in the taboo world anymore. Also what isn't to say that people who commit incest "Don't get out and meet new people", that is just you assuming that because you don't feel any natural attraction to any one member of your family, that people can't or shouldn't and that if they do it MUST be because there lonely no-lifers, which is very untrue. Tho a lot less common it would be no different feeling attracted to and falling in love with a cousin or any other family member just as you would someone of no relation.
One last thing is, if you don't like the cultural side of games such as this, being that the game originates in a country with very different views to our own. Dont play games distrubuted by that country, but have fun with no Japanese originated games in your collection. OR you could try and realize its just that; a game, and of no real consequence to anyone.
 
Honestly, I beat the game 6 times, and it never dawned on me while playing it that Brother and Yuna were cousins. So I read this thread title and was caught by surprise, but yeah, it's true I guess. I actually thought Brother served well as comic relief, he was just so damn silly, and with the Al Bhed accent, he just made me laugh a lot through the game.

But by reading some of the responses, I'm wondering if someone will make a thread in The Sleeping Forest about this issue. :hmmm: Cousins never appealed to me really, mainly because I just never thought of them in a romantic or sexual manner. Oddly enough, my uncle married his cousin. They had 3 kids together, and 1 of them has down syndrome, the other 2 are prefectly healthy.

I'm going to go into a romance/sexual area for the moment. A person may reach to very high lengths to get with someone. But pretty much everyone draws the line and won't exceed it. As stated, different cultures don't draw the line before incest and will go into it. In our society here in the United States, incest is generally frowned upon, and as a result, people draw the line before it. But more than anything, each individual person draws their own line, whether it's the society norm or not. Some people like to be gagged and spanked, some like to dress up as the opposite sex, some like having sex with their cousins. To question why people do what they do is futile. I'll admit that I have some hang-ups as well, some will think they're normal, some will say im insane. But to judge someone's belief's is pointless. I personally don't agree with incest, but I wouldn't question the ones that do. It's not my right as a person. We're all humans, we all have flaws, why say someone is normal or not just because they agree or disagree with your belief's?

I guess this is my attempt to just stop the fighting and add some civility to the thread as well as my 2 cents. But it's probably more important to realize that it's just a video game. Sure, they sort of put something there that may be a bit controversial, but I'm sure you can find that in any game. But it's just a game, it's not like anyone really has a cousin like this in this particular instance, it's just a couple of fictional characters. Can't we just accept that for what it is?
 
Ugh Yes it is creeping me out quite a bit so far. To me this guy is mentally retarded or something >_>. Why would you go out with you're own cousin? That is really something sad xD but if Yuna was my cousin I would just wish she was not. Cause I dont like going out with people from my family! Not even if Yuna was my cousin -_-
 
Mandi Pandi said:
...you question my logic? The fact that I don't get off on family pressing flesh makes you question my logic? I think it's pretty obvious WHY I don't exactly get off on incest. Inbred people aren't exactly the healthiest people in the world. Most of them turn out mentally retarded or ill. I don't think I should have to sit here and explain myself to you. Like I said before, I'm not Japanese. I don't live in Japan. I grew up in an entirely different culture. Also, how does that give me a warped view? Explain please because I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Also, as I said before, you don't have cousins right? How would you know if it's sick or not? I'm just questioning YOU now. And, I reiterate, if a person gets off on incest more power to them. I just don't.
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Oh god you are so pathetic "gets off on incest", things just cant be more seriouse than that to you can they? You even had to say it twice to make sure i knew what you were accusing me off.

Im simply saying let people do whatever they want that makes them happy as long as it doesnt hurt other people. The only reason you have given is "it just creeps me out" and "incest causes retards", the last statement is true and i am against brothers and sisters having babies, but if they want to have safe sex that doesnt effect anyone. As for cousins, their children will be 100% normal. Why compare it to your own cousin? Thats just stupid? You do not have a crush on your cousin or anything whereas his character does, two completley different situations, its easy to say "eww i would never" because you are in a completley differnt situation.

As for knowing whether it was sick or not, i can still understand because i have relatives (just because i dont have the exact relative as in this situation).

And i stick to, let people do what they want, it doesnt hurt anybody, im not doing it and they are happy.
 
Please do not call me pathetic just because I post my own personal opinion, thanks. In fact, I think I'll give you an infraction for that. :) Also, I wasn't posting "get off" in the terms that you think I was using. It was just a figure of speech. In other words I meant that incest doesn't APPEAL to me. It was a casual expression. It had NOTHING to do with you. I wasn't accusing YOU of anything. Stop being so quick to assume.
 
Tbh, it never really bothered me. As I writer, I've actually touched upon the subject of Incest in my own stories and will most likely continue to do so in the future. I wouldn't indulge in it myself, but what others do, is their own business as far as I'm concerned. We're all human at the end of the day. Instincts kick in and you can't help who you end up attracted to... some people are attracted to their biological relatives. So long as they don't expect me to be the same, it matters not to me.

I can also understand why some people would be strictly against it. but for me, it's not an issue. I don't think about it in depth as I don't actually have an incest fetish. :hmmm: But anyway.

Brother liking Yuna didn't really surprise me anyway. I have many Asian friends, the majority of which are Japanese. My closest friend has told me much about Japanese culture so it wasn't really a shock. It's just a case of leaving others to do as they wish.

This also means not trying to force those who disagree with it, to come over to thinking it's perfectly normal, btw. >_>
 
When he is saying your pathetic, over the "get off" comment, as far as i can tell its because the phrase you used would generally mean that brother would just wanna shag. As the game doesn't go to far into it, you can draw your own conclusions, but I'd assume it if anything would be more that just "getting off".
 
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When he is saying your pathetic, over the "get off" comment, as far as i can tell its because the phrase you used would generally mean that brother would just wanna shag. As the game doesn't go to far into it, you can draw your own conclusions, but I'd assume it if anything would be more that just "getting off".
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Yar... but calling someone pathetic in attempts to make an argument basically forfeits their side of the persuasion. Why? because the argument is based on the incest, and there is no need to slam someone for having their own beliefs.

Let me put it into my perspective, if two people consent to gay sex and they know their partner has HIV then they know the risk. If two people have incestuous sex without the use of any birth preventative tools, then they know the risk. Although both might erk me, it is not something life altering where SE would permanently persuade me not to play their games. I'll get over it quick. It is because Japanese culture are exposed to it every day, just like how the American culture is finally seeing eye to eye with gay rights.

I would never condone incest for one, but if both of the partners reciprocated their affections.. who's to say I'm to tell them what to do?
 
Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I wasn't targeting anybody at all. What I meant by "getting off" on incest was that while it might be appealing to others it's not to me. It's just my culture and how I was brought up. I also said if people want to indulge themselves in incest then more power to them, meaning that's their choice. However I, on the other hand, don't like it. I wasn't TRYING to pick a fight, I was just posting my opinion and apparently I can't even do that without getting my head bit off or being called pathetic. So, I'm going to step out of this conversation now as I'm getting a little tired of being targeted just because I have an opinion in regards to incest. My apologies for having my own preferences about things. I'll remember next time I want to post opinion, I won't. Hopefully that'll prevent anymore of this nonsense from happening again.
 
If you are including me in there, sorry. I wasn't trying to "bite your head off" Nor was it an intent to make it seem as thought i meant your pathetic, if you took it that way. I do see you point, but i do, see his too. Not to say i agree with either view.
 
Mandi Pandi said:
Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I wasn't targeting anybody at all. What I meant by "getting off" on incest was that while it might be appealing to others it's not to me. It's just my culture and how I was brought up. I also said if people want to indulge themselves in incest then more power to them, meaning that's their choice. However I, on the other hand, don't like it. I wasn't TRYING to pick a fight, I was just posting my opinion and apparently I can't even do that without getting my head bit off or being called pathetic. So, I'm going to step out of this conversation now as I'm getting a little tired of being targeted just because I have an opinion in regards to incest. My apologies for having my own preferences about things. I'll remember next time I want to post opinion, I won't. Hopefully that'll prevent anymore of this nonsense from happening again.
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During this entire discussion you still havent given an explanation about whats wrong with safe sex incest.

Wait a minute... you just said that you dont care about other people having incest but its just not appealing to you? Thats what i have been saying in just about every post in this thread! So we do agree after all.

Edit: And you have to admit "if you want to get off on incest, fine", that very much sounded like you were accusing me of it. Anybody would think the same if you said it to them.
 
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You know, if you'd go back and read my posts you'd see that I SAID it doesn't appeal to me but if people wanna do it, then more power to them. :ffs: Also I'm getting REALLY sick of your attitude and I'm very inclined to keep infracting you for constantly coming at me. I really wish you'd just back off and leave me to my opinions and yours to you. Also, WHY do I have to give an explanation when it's MY fucking opinion? Stop pushing me. I'm getting sick of you.
 
Well said Mandi. I think this thread has got a bit defensive and off topic, if I'm honest. This is about a computer game, it's not about people accusing each other of stuff, even though some of you seem to think so. I've read through every post here, and I don't think that once she's accused anyone of anything, nor has she said that anyone is doing anything wrong. People are getting too defensive about things that they don't need to. And I think that's a lot more offensive than Brother fancying his cousin in FFX2, which after all is what the original post was about.
 
Thank you, fairydust. At least somebody could see I wasn't referring to anybody here or accusing anyone of anything. Anyhow, I'm closing this thread as now it's just gotten ridiculous. I'd rather not see it recreated either as it's just going to be a repeat of what was said in here. And on that note: *closed*
 
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