What do we know about Squall's family?

[Takaiki]

I personally listens to facts on this issue.
Ellone is to be 2 years older then Squall but they show here as 3 years old in the place when you first see her. Furthermore Renoa, who is suppose to be younger the Squall by one year was in the womb at that time.
Thus the time line doesn't make much since for laguna to be Squall's father.
Also Edna supposedly had a son with Cid, so he never showed up if it wasn't squall or Seifer, but Seifer's background says that his father died in the war, while his mother died in childbirth.
Squall is Edna's son and that is that.

 

[Krysta]

Who is Edna? Do you mean Edea? Cause if that's so, than no you're wrong. They didn't have kids. And I don't know where you got your Seifer info, I never heard of that.
Rinoa (if thats who you mean with Renoa) is not a year younger than Squall, they're the same age. Actually only half a year difference since she was born in march and he was born in august. Ellone is the oldest of the orphan gang. by at leat 2 years.

And like I said, making sense or not, Laguna is Squall's father and Raine is Squall's mother. It says so in the Ultimania books.


Ellone's parents where killed in the war. The next door neighbour Raine, takes care of her from then on. After that they meet Laguna and Raine nurses him back to health. Ellone gets kidnapped, Laguna went to save her. He sent her back to Winhill and Raine but Laguna never returns himself. Instead he goes off to rule Esthar. Back in Winhill Raine gives birth to Squall and dies. Whether she dies from childbirth or or other is not stated. Squall and Ellone get shipped off to the Orphanage (Edea and Cid's orphanage) and there they meet the others of the gang. Squall keeps calling Ellone 'sis' because in a way she is his sister.
The rest is clear I think. They all go to their respective gardens and Ellone is with the white SeeD's for a while.
Julia, Laguna's first (or the one before Raine anyway) love, gets tired of waiting for him and ends up marrying General Caraway wich results in Rinoa.

There you have it. Any questions?

 

[Donald Trump]

Who is Edna? Do you mean Edea? Cause if that's so, than no you're wrong. They didn't have kids. And I don't know where you got your Seifer info, I never heard of that.
Rinoa (if thats who you mean with Renoa) is not a year younger than Squall, they're the same age. Actually only half a year difference since she was born in march and he was born in august. Ellone is the oldest of the orphan gang. by at leat 2 years.

And like I said, making sense or not, Laguna is Squall's father and Raine is Squall's mother. It says so in the Ultimania books.


Ellone's parents where killed in the war. The next door neighbour Raine, takes care of her from then on. After that they meet Laguna and Raine nurses him back to health. Ellone gets kidnapped, Laguna went to save her. He sent her back to Winhill and Raine but Laguna never returns himself. Instead he goes off to rule Esthar. Back in Winhill Raine gives birth to Squall and dies. Whether she dies from childbirth or or other is not stated. Squall and Ellone get shipped off to the Orphanage (Edea and Cid's orphanage) and there they meet the others of the gang. Squall keeps calling Ellone 'sis' because in a way she is his sister.
The rest is clear I think. They all go to their respective gardens and Ellone is with the white SeeD's for a while.
Julia, Laguna's first (or the one before Raine anyway) love, gets tired of waiting for him and ends up marrying General Caraway wich results in Rinoa.

There you have it. Any questions?

That's all spot on. Though I'll elabourate about Ellone.
After Squall defeats Ultimecia and they both go back in time to the orphanage, Ulty tries to give her powers to Ellone, but Edea makes sure she gets them. Then Squall from the future tells Edea about her becoming possesed by Ulty so she sends Ellone away with the White Seeds who are supposed to be the elder members of the orphanage.

 

[Daenerys]

It's not explicitly stated in the game, but it's fairly obvious that Squall is Raine and Laguna's son. He calls Ellone "Sis" which none of the other orphans do - this is because Raine is his mother and she pretty much raised Ellone after Ellone's parents died.

I can't remember exactly, but I think in the game it states that Raine was pregnant when Laguna went to Esthar? It would only make sense for Squall to be that baby, otherwise, that baby just doesn't show up in the game, at all. And if that was the case, it wouldn't have been mentioned.

But regardless, it just makes sense for Raine and Laguna to be Squall's parents. Nothing else is hinted at really during the game. Squall can't be Julia and Laguna's child, since Julia married Rinoa's dad. And, to make a connection between Squall and Laguna, someone has to get pregnant. And since Julia has someone else's baby, this only leaves Raine.

 

[Takaiki]

They say in the game that he calls her sis because she was the only one that he was close to.
And most of the information I gave earlier was stated in the game but you had to goad it out of people.
Also you are forgetting that Irvine also was an orphan by birth where his mother died in childbirth. and his age is correct for the birth unlike Squall's which is a year out of place.

 

[Donald Trump]

Also you are forgetting that Irvine also was an orphan by birth where his mother died in childbirth. and his age is correct for the birth unlike Squall's which is a year out of place.

No, you just fail at maths.
I cannot state this any more plainly. Squall is the child of Laguna and Raine.
Evidence:
1) Squall calls Ellone 'sis' because they are step-siblings. They are closer than anyone else because they have that bond between them.
2) Laguna has Squall's card
3) Kiros says "It's good he[Squall] looks like his mother. Or something to that effect.
4)Their names. Squall, Laguna, Raine.
Plus their is more evidence that I can't be bothered regurgitating.

 

[Ryushikaze]

They say in the game that he calls her sis because she was the only one that he was close to.
And most of the information I gave earlier was stated in the game but you had to goad it out of people.

Who, and when, if you would.

Also you are forgetting that Irvine also was an orphan by birth where his mother died in childbirth. and his age is correct for the birth unlike Squall's which is a year out of place.

What are you talking about? Squall's age fits the gap perfectly, and he's the same age as Irvine. Squall bears the same surname as Raine. They both have the surname Leonhart. Irvine- whose surname is Kinneas- does not.

It's blatantly obvious that Laguna and Raine are Squall's parents. You don't need a press conference to figure it out. Even if you did, they confirmed it in the FFVIII Ulti, so there's no grounds to claim another character is their child.

 

[omegaweapon1337]

Well of course Laguna doesn't look 44! He lives in Esthar! They have floating chairs as public transport and androids that can create black holes! Their anti-aging treatments must be kicka$$!
:math:

No, you just fail at maths.
I cannot state this any more plainly. Squall is the child of Laguna and Raine.
Evidence:
1) Squall calls Ellone 'sis' because they are step-siblings. They are closer than anyone else because they have that bond between them.
2) Laguna has Squall's card
3) Kiros says "It's good he[Squall] looks like his mother. Or something to that effect.
4)Their names. Squall, Laguna, Raine.
Plus their is more evidence that I can't be bothered regurgitating.

I don't see how their names are evidence...

 

[Bambi]

Please do not double post use the edit button, thankyou

 

[Krysta]

Well of course Laguna doesn't look 44! He lives in Esthar! They have floating chairs as public transport and androids that can create black holes! Their anti-aging treatments must be kicka$$!
:math:


I don't see how their names are evidence...

all three names are related to water in some way.
I don't see any other reason.

 

[Nor-El]

True about Ellone but I still think that in some crazy FF story she is really both of theirs.

 

[Takaiki]

Who, and when, if you would.



What are you talking about? Squall's age fits the gap perfectly, and he's the same age as Irvine. Squall bears the same surname as Raine. They both have the surname Leonhart. Irvine- whose surname is Kinneas- does not.

It's blatantly obvious that Laguna and Raine are Squall's parents. You don't need a press conference to figure it out. Even if you did, they confirmed it in the FFVIII Ulti, so there's no grounds to claim another character is their child.

They never say her last name.
and if you were alone and only one person tried to cheer you up you time being alone when you were a child you would refer to them as a sibling
oh and Quistis called her big sis too.

 

[Ryushikaze]

They never say her last name.
and if you were alone and only one person tried to cheer you up you time being alone when you were a child you would refer to them as a sibling
oh and Quistis called her big sis too.

Her surname comes from the UO book, but I suppose you won't believe that.

In any case, Ellone keeps specifically attaching Squall to Laguna, Laguna mentions having something he needs to tell Squall after they deal with Ulti, and Ward and Kiros make not that it's good that Squall takes after his mother, not his father.

Irvine gets Jack and diddly.

Why would the writers have Laguna's best friends tell Squall about his mom and dad in such an oblique manner if there was no intention of connecting the two together?

As to the rest of your point- it is irrelevant nonsense. I do not use 'big sis' as evidence.

But I do ask, where is your evidence for your asinine 'Irvine is Laguna and Raine's kid' claim?

And could you provide the who and when you must ask for the 'information' that has led you to these outrageous conclusions?

 

[Phareas]

Also there is the Moomba's who we are told remember people by licking their blood. We learn that Laguna was injured and taken to Shumi village where Moomba's live. In the prison when Squall is injured the Moomba's call him Laguna because of the similarities in their blood being father and son. I think this is one of the clearest indications of the relationship between them

 

[Krysta]

Yes I forgot about that part. But if that doesn't make sense to you than you probably should pay more attention to story lines, or start playing different kinds of games.

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Please don't patronise people, if they don't understand something that is no reason for you to tell them to pay more attention or to play something else. Thank you

 

[TheMixedHerb]

The first time I played on this I was about 10, I wasn't that bright back then XD
but I still figured out that Squall was Laguna and Raine's child, the hints were all over the place.

 

[SapphireStar]

@ Krysta: I got my maths wrong, sue me lol.

Edea being the mother of Squall is a new one on me. Believe that if you will, no-ones going to force you to change your mind lol. And I cant remember my guide saying anything about Squall and Laguna being related. Its a Piggyback guide.

 

[Krysta]

Here's a pic from the ultimania guide, proving that Laguna and Raine are Squall's parents.
If you cant read Japanese, it says parent and child from Laguna and Raine to Squall. And from Edea to Squall (and the rest of the orphan gang including Ellone) it says once guardian or custody. From Laguna to Raine it says married couple.
For the complete translation of this map you'll have to wait, I'm working on it. Along with the rest of the book.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/khkairi/232-233-1.png

@ Krysta: I got my maths wrong, sue me lol.

I'm not that good in math either, I actually had to get a calculator because I wasnt sure I got it right. That's why I study a language, no numbers involved there.

 

[Stella]

From Laguna to Raine it says married couple.

So they were married then? I thought they were just engaged lol

Well the picture you posted Krysta really does prove Raine and Laguna are Squall's parents for those who don't want to believe it. As for me, I thought it was pretty obvious in the game that they were. Like Phareas said, the scene where the Moombas call Squall Laguna is a pretty big indication, as is Laguna telling Squall he has something important to tell him.

 

[Rukai]

So they were married then? I thought they were just engaged

Same here, I don't remember Laguna mentioning marriage.

I always had 99% sure that Laguna and Raine were Squall's parents, not just that the game leaves clues all over the place, including Squall being way too similar to Laguna. (except personality ) but thanks to that, I am 100% sure now.

This is kinda off-topic, but what about Seifer, any connection with Edea/Cid?
I might have missed something...

Good to hear your working on the translations, Krysta.