Michael Jackson

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I know what you're thinking right on. He's an evil man who rape children. That ain't true and I have many things to prove you wrong.
Michael Jackson has his own children. He paid over a million dollars to charities across the world. He has his own charity too.

The song 'Billie Jean' showed Michael out of the zone of Jackson 5. He showed off his moves and his own voice.

Jackson's skin was a medium-brown color for the entire duration of his youth, but starting in the early 1980s, his skin gradually grew paler. This change gained widespread media coverage, including rumors that Jackson was bleaching his skin. However, in the early 1980s Jackson was diagnosed with vitiligo and lupus, the latter of which is potentially lethal but is in remission in Jackson's case. Both conditions make Jackson sensitive to overexposure to sunlight, which can cause his lupus condition to reawaken.Jackson first spoke publicly about vitiligo in a 1993 interview with Oprah Winfrey. He must also have hydroxychloroquin injected directly into his scalp regularly. Ironically, the treatments he uses for his condition further lightens his skin tone, and with the application of pancake makeup to even out his skin tone, he can appear very pale.
The structure of his face has changed as well, and several surgeons have speculated that Jackson has undergone multiple nasal surgeries, a forehead lift, thinned lips, and cheekbone surgery.In 1979, Jackson had his first rhinoplacyty after breaking his nose during a complex dance routine. However the surgery was not a complete success and Jackson complained of breathing difficulties that would affect his career. He was referred to Dr. Steven Hoefflin, who would perform his second rhinoplasty, as well as more throughout his career. Jackson had his third rhinoplasty in 1984, another in 1986, and had a cleft put in his chin. By 1990, the full extent of Jackson's surgery was known; those close to the singer estimated he underwent ten operations on his face, up to this point.

No matter what people think of him, he shall forvever be the King of Pop.


My cousin and her parents had a visit to America. There, in California is the Neverland. A place Michael opened in late 80s. Abeled and disabeled children have fun there with many fun games, rides. They play with other children. It is also a home of the singer himself. Children often get chances to visit his house. Sarah went to his house with other children. They went to his room and watched a video. Further on they played with Michael's pet chimpanzee Bubbles. Nothing else had happened. (She said)

Therefore I believe he's innocent.
 
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Ah, judging from the post, it doesn't seem like we'll be talking about his music, but rather debating about his character, am I correct? A controversial topic. If so, I'll move this to Shinra for you. =]

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I'll post my thoughts later.
 
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Michael Jackson doesn't have that disease that turned his skin white, it's just a nice excuse for him.
He has had plastic surgery many times, and no doubt once he said to the doctors 'make me white'.
So they did.
Also we aren't all MJ bashers, I don't think he molests children. He is just incredibly stupid.

Also prince > Michael Jackson
 
Michael Jackson isn't a bad guy at all. Sure there are rumors about him raping children, getting white and stuff but he also does have his good points. He really has nice music, he donates to children, etc. All the bad things that have been surrounding his character are just caused by the traumas he had earlier in life(his dad, self-consciousness). He's just a troubled guy.
 
His music is kickass, so I love him. Anyone who can moonwalk is automatically awesome.

So he's had a few too many surgeries. So he looks like a deformed alien. No biggie. I'm not sure if he's had a little too much "fun" with children or not. It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but he wasn't proven guilty, soooo...
 
I fucking love Michael Jackson. Thriller is the shiznit D: I personally think that he's a great guy. Like Mister Poop said, so what if he got too many surgeries, we don't know if he like the little boys...let's just accept him for who he is now.
 
Michael Jackson doesn't have that disease that turned his skin white, it's just a nice excuse for him.
He has had plastic surgery many times, and no doubt once he said to the doctors 'make me white'.
So they did.
Also we aren't all MJ bashers, I don't think he molests children. He is just incredibly stupid.

Also prince > Michael Jackson
If he had a plastic operation he would be able to come out to the sun without fear. Also, he had scars on his face so he needed more operations to hide them.
 
Michael Jackson isn't a bad guy at all. Sure there are rumors about him raping children, getting white and stuff but he also does have his good points. He really has nice music, he donates to children, etc. All the bad things that have been surrounding his character are just caused by the traumas he had earlier in life(his dad, self-consciousness). He's just a troubled guy.

I would definitely agree on that.

I really don't know whether the allegations on him are true (the raping and surgery) but I guess having started a spectacular career at a very young age, he mustn't have had a normal childhood. No one can say for sure, which is which.
 
Michael used to be married with Lisa (I think) Presley. But they devorced two years later. Lisa claimed that she wasn't getting enauh sex........ However thy remained friends up to this day. Whatever happens she tries to defend him. On an interview she said "Michael loves children. I know him far too well and I know that would never do that to them. That's not what's in his heart"

Anyway, a few pictures I picked up to show.

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Backstage at LA sports arena. Look at the picture.

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Michael Jackson with his chimp Bubbles

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Hell yeah he looks weird now... But give the guy a break, he's 49!

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And just random hot pic.
 
Ugh he's definately got a screw loose, he looks so fucked up aswel. And whats with putting the blanket things over his kids heads and dangling them out of windows?!

He needs to be in a mental insitute or something. If he was average Joe, behaving like he does he would have been locked up long ago

His musics ok I suppose, I used to like it as a kid, the mothership got me into it, but Im not really a fan anymore
 
Ugh he's definately got a screw loose, he looks so fucked up aswel. And whats with putting the blanket things over his kids heads and dangling them out of windows?!

He needs to be in a mental insitute or something. If he was average Joe, behaving like he does he would have been locked up long ago

His musics ok I suppose, I used to like it as a kid, the mothership got me into it, but Im not really a fan anymore

It was not his idea to put scarfs on the childrens' faces. It was Debbie's his ex-wife. She saw a note beside her front door saying ' I will steal your children' she asked MJ to hide their faces.

His fans outside the Berlin Hotel requested him to show the baby. He held the child strongly in his hands. His family knows that he would never drop it.
Look at his interviews with that Bashir guy on youtube.

Of course, Michael has a funny side too. I swear this is one of the funniest clips I've seen overall...

 
I see we have a bit of bias floating around. :neomon:
If he had a plastic operation he would be able to come out to the sun without fear. Also, he had scars on his face so he needed more operations to hide them.
And I suppose you've had a merry little chat with him about this? xD It's common knowledge that he surgically changed the colour of his skin. Claiming it's due to Lupus is a crock of shit - you often get rashes or legions on your skin because of it. There's no "turning pale" involved. Besides, the colour of your skin is due to the amount of Melanin present, nothing else. Scars on his face? Aye, maybe after getting a new skin colour.

Ugh he's definately got a screw loose, he looks so fucked up aswel. And whats with putting the blanket things over his kids heads and dangling them out of windows?!
You've hit it in one.

The main point that I want to get across here is that you don't know for a fact that he did what they say he did. Your opening statement, Laro, says "I know he did not do it" and is proceeded by a character reference, as opposed to any kind of evidence to prove or disprove anyone's point. As for your relative ... just because it didn't happen to her does not mean he was not capable of doing so. That's the thing about people - they're unpredictable. There's no way of being able to say, for sure, that he did or did not do it based on the kind of person he is.

It was not his idea to put scarfs on the childrens' faces. It was Debbie's his ex-wife.
He could've, like ... not done it.
 
Also prince > Michael Jackson

Bullshit, the only good song of Prince's is Little Red Corvette, and he's the biggest douche in the universe. He wants to sue fansites dedicated to him just for using his pics. He's such a greedy asshole and so in love with his work, he thinks he needs to sue any website with a picture or video of his.

And I suppose you've had a merry little chat with him about this? xD It's common knowledge that he surgically changed the colour of his skin. Claiming it's due to Lupus is a crock of shit - you often get rashes or legions on your skin because of it. There's no "turning pale" involved. Besides, the colour of your skin is due to the amount of Melanin present, nothing else. Scars on his face? Aye, maybe after getting a new skin colour.

ITS NOT LUPUS :gasp:

We all know he's had tons of plastic surgery, it's why he's pasty white and looks like a friggin' monster. The guy has serious mental issues, though. As for the child rapeage...I don't know. He might have, but I seem to recall a mother bullshitting about the rape so she could get money in a settlement, so it makes me wonder how many other alleged "rapes" were just from parents using their kids to get money.

I don't particularly care that Michael is a freak though, I like his music.
 
My personal opinion of Michael Jackson is that he is a very talented man. A very gifted singer and dancer that was obviously destined for fame from a young age.

Whether or not he has done or still does molest children I do not know, but I do know that one does not simply go from being a fairly good-looking black youth to being a horrendously ugly middle-aged white man in a natural way.

He either underwent a series of long and strenuous surgeries or he has suffered greatly with whatever diseases or conditions that could have so drastically changed his appearance. I honestly do not know and I really don't care to speculate.

I enjoy almost all of his music even today and I've been a bit of a fan of his work for quite a few years.

In short: I respect him as a musician and a performer, but I find it hard to respect him as a person because of all of the speculation that surrounds him. I honestly have no idea of what he does behind closed doors or what cosmetic surgeries (if any) that he has undergone and so I have no right to pass judgement upon him.
 
I see we have a bit of bias floating around. :neomon:
And I suppose you've had a merry little chat with him about this? xD It's common knowledge that he surgically changed the colour of his skin. Claiming it's due to Lupus is a crock of shit - you often get rashes or legions on your skin because of it. There's no "turning pale" involved. Besides, the colour of your skin is due to the amount of Melanin present, nothing else. Scars on his face? Aye, maybe after getting a new skin colour.

It's on Wikipedia. Why would MJ lie about his surgeories anyway?
 
Scottish Dave said:
I see we have a bit of bias floating around.
Boy, I'll say.
Laro said:
His fans outside the Berlin Hotel requested him to show the baby. He held the child strongly in his hands. His family knows that he would never drop it.
That's not really the point. It shows a complete lack of sense.

MJ isn't a saint. There isn't always a good excuse for the...er...strange stuff he does.
 
It's on Wikipedia. Why would MJ lie about his surgeories anyway?

You trust Wikipedia?

And maybe MJ lied about them because he wants people to believe it's a condition so he can garner pity? And have you ever heard of Dr. Werner Mang? He took a chunk of cartilage out of Michael's ear and slapped it onto his nose so that he wouldn't have to wear prosthetic nose tips. And here, why don't you check this site out, or just do a simple google search.

It's been established that you love Michael, but defending him against facts is just silly.
 
You trust Wikipedia?

And maybe MJ lied about them because he wants people to believe it's a condition so he can garner pity? And have you ever heard of Dr. Werner Mang? He took a chunk of cartilage out of Michael's ear and slapped it onto his nose so that he wouldn't have to wear prosthetic nose tips. And here, why don't you check this site out, or just do a simple google search.

It's been established that you love Michael, but defending him against facts is just silly.
Why yes I am a fan, and I don't trust any rubbish that those fecking sites say. It's not our business anyway.
The poor guy cried while an interview about this subject. Does he deserve this? Who started it?

I'm not attacking anyone by the way :wacky:
 
I didn't say he was a saint. Besides, I don't think it's strange. What would you have done?

Regarding what? The incident where he let his kid hang out the window? I would have ignored the crowd, choosing to keep my child safely away from the window. I definitely wouldn't have let him dangle outside of it.

It's not as strange as much as it's stupid.
 
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