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I've been thinking about this topic lately, and I've been wandering... Is suicide legal?

Do you think it shoudl be legal or illegal? I find it slightly stupid that people try to stop you ending your life, when it's your OWN body.
 
Leki said:
Is suicide legal?
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Suicide is not legal.

Leki said:
Do you think it shoudl be legal or illegal?
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It's sorta difficult to punish those who commit suicide; therefore, I see no point in having it be illegal. I suppose its unlawful nature could possibly deter someone from doing it, though.

Leki said:
I find it slightly stupid that people try to stop you ending your life, when it's your OWN body.
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So if--god forbid--someone close to you decided to "end their life," you'd stand idly by and allow it to happen? It's their own body, after all...

It depends on circumstance. If one is deathly ill and in pain, I could understand it if they wanted to be put out of their misery.
 
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It depends on circumstance. If one is deathly ill and in pain, I could understand it if they wanted to be put out of their misery.
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I 100% agree, no one should have to go through pain for the rest of their lives and if that is the case then substances such as euthanasia should only be allowed for that purpose only.

However, I also see suicide as being selfish (apart from the issue VoN mentioned) because when people end their own lives, yes they are out of misery yet do they not put other people into misery? When people jump in front of trains etc, to end their lives does that not put the driver into shock and will he/she not have to live with that for the rest of their life? I can gurantee they will. The same goes with families and friends, I can gurantee they will be miserbale for a long, long time if their son/daughter or anyone else in their family(or even friend) commited suicide.

So in my opinion it should stay illegal, its just an easy way to solve their problems puts many more into misery. Suicide = selfishness.
 
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However, I also see suicide as being selfish (apart from the issue VoN mentioned) because when people end their own lives, yes they are out of misery yet do they not put other people into misery? When people jump in front of trains etc, to end their lives does that not put the driver into shock and will he/she not have to live with that for the rest of their life? I can gurantee they will. The same goes with families and friends, I can gurantee they will be miserbale for a long, long time if their son/daughter or anyone else in their family(or even friend) commited suicide
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personally i find that view more selfish, if someone had decided to end their own life then there was a serious reason for doing it, they didnt do it on a whim, they thought about it and the consequences, i think its really wrong to call them selfish.

i thik suicide is illegal in most countries as its considered to be the worst sin by the bible
 
Well, I'm not saying that everyone should just up and decide to end their lives. I think they should take help for it, perhaps.

I think if they're greatly depressed, and their not getting much out of life, it might be peace and rest to end it all.
 
Suicide to me is just cowardice. It's basically saying, "I'm too much of a puss to deal with shit so I'll end my life." The stronger thing to do would be to face shit instead of taking the quick and easy way out. If someone close to me killed themself, it would crush me, but I would be more mad at them in the long run and think less of them.
 
My current boyfriend was sucidal when he was 18 and told me the other night and I thought no less of him. He wasnt cowardly, he couldnt get any help from his parents and they were the reason he nearly took his own life.

Luckly he had a friend who had been there and he saved him.
 
I don't think its cowardice that really fuels suicide. Sometimes it is, but alot of it is just being alone, and having no body that's really willing to help. It can be soooo hard to get through life without at least one person to listen to you, at least a little bit.
 
I don't see why suicide is illegal, because if you're dead then... what's the need?

I guess people do it for different reasons though. Some reasons are more 'real' whereas you get a lot of teenage emo-types who will talk about ending it all because life sucks 'n all, well that is just silly and selfish. These people will most probably have friends and family who care about them. And okay, some don't, and a lot of people will probably have a more geniune reason for not wanting to live. I guess if they don't want to live, and everyday is just shite and there is no way for them to change things, then there's nothing anyone else can do about it really.
 
I don't see why suicide is illegal, because if you're dead then... what's the need
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for people that stuffed up and didnt die, it is illegal but i doubt anyone in the western world has been prosecuted for it in ages.

theres emos who talk about it to get attention and be different, but they dont actually have the balls to go through with it
 
Legally speaking, i think suicide should be perfectly legal. Completely consual, inpunishable, yada yada yada. If smoking is legal right?

Though if you know someone was going to kill themselfs, and you didn't do anything about it, thats questionable.
 
I don't really have a strong view of death as everyone else, so I suppose I saw suicide as not being really a big deal. Apparently, to some people it is.

The fact that it could even be considered as legal or illegal is amusing though because charging a dead person who neither defends himself or receives punishment is laughable.

If someone around me wanted to kill himself (and I can guarantee that there are few people I know whom I care about enough to not want them to do it) it's not really my business; if I cared more about them, I'd probably at least want to know more about why they want to kill themselves, but perhaps one of the reasons they're doing it is because they believe no one cares about them--if someone cared about them and they knew it, they wouldn't have any need to kill themselves because they could ask for help. But perhaps the reason you see it as being selfish is because you don't see that they feel that nobody can help them and because they believe that no one cares about them, so they believe that leaving such a world would harm nobody. But suicide isn't simple because people could feel miserable over someone close to them killing themselves for all the wrong reasons.

I think that suicide is an extreme measure though; it would only happen if you had absolutely no choice or no way whatsoever out of the life that you live in, and you cannot enjoy that kind of life at all and put up with it anymore. It's different for everybody what that is, and nobody can tell you when life is too "terrible" and when it isn't. Sure, that makes certain people seem like pussies because you can put up with stuff they can't, but don't forget that you're a pussy too--there are probably people that can put up with stuff that you can't. I for one, for example, don't fear being alone, but most of you probably do. However, I'm fairly sure there is a kind of life I wouldn't enjoy that would make me want to kill myself.

While I do see suicide as a last resort, even if other people might view it differently, I don't recommend it not for religious reasons. It's too authoritarian, and doesn't really outline a very nice reasoning for why you shouldn't commit suicide. Yes, they say it's a sin, but only because the bible says you're throwing away the life God gave you, but apparently, some omniscient guy decided to give you a terrible life not worth living, so you might as well throw it away anyways; it makes no difference.

I personally don't encourage suicide, but I'm not so against it that I would completely eliminate that option. If things couldn't be more worse, it might be worth considering.
 
It's not necessarily illegal because, well what can you do? It's more that if someone is trying to kill themself or attempts it, that person has be tended to.

At least in Western culture, the majority of people who do commit suicide do not actually want to die. They just want the pain(emotional or physical) to stop so the suicide is actually a cry for help. Or some commit suicide because they do not want to face punishment.
 
mayb its considered illegal so people cant say the law is encouraging it. if they said yea its ok to kill yourself, families of suicide victims would probably get angry and say its their fault for saying its allowed
 
It is technically illegal, which is sort of....weird, but no one said laws necessarily make sense.

I'm of the opinion that suicide is relatively selfish, with a few exceptions. If the person has some sort of terminal illness or an illness that causes copious amounts of pain, I can understand how suicide would be a perfectly legitimate act. However, if someone kills themselves because they're going through a tough time or because they're depressed, that really bothers me. No one is completely disconnected from the world. People always have ties. Killing yourself really negatively impacts your friends, family, etc. This is sort of a weird example, but Sylvia Plath is this iconic hero figure for many people, which I find ridiculous. She had two young children, and she killed herself. That's one of the most selfish things I can imagine. I know people go through really horrible and difficult situations or become very depressed, but committing suicide is...just very cowardly and weak to me. There is always help somewhere whether it's a family member, a friend, a hotline, or a hospital.
 
but that would mean that the people that they are staying alive for are being selfish, they want someone who is suffering emense emotional and pyshcological pain.
 
I think trying to kill yourself shouldn't be illegal.
What SHOULD be illegal is not preventing a suicide.
 
well thinking about it Suicide is somebody takeing their own life because they think that they themselves don't deserve to live, it is their choice weather they want to die or not, i think people who are suicide should be left to their own ways. and i don't think it should be Illegal because if they do kill themselves you can't throw a dead person in prison can you
 
People who are going to commit suicide aren't mentally stable. Argue about this all you want but thats the whole point in counseling, they don't think about the consequences afterwards, the one single thought in their mind is if they are dead then they are out of pain. No other options are taken into account. Anyhow, apart from the whole illness scenario, name one situation that can't be solved using a legitimate method and must turn to suicide to solve it...I think people will find it is more difficult then it sounds.

Erythritol has got it spot on.
 
Suicide is a permanent solution to a short-term crisis. I think that it's a terrible waste and extremely foolish except in certain circumstances. Especially for someone in the first half of their life.
Is deliverance from emotional pain really worth everything? I think that people should be forcefully prevented from committing suicide, except convicted criminals.
It's the ultimate self-defeat. You beat your struggles by fighting them. Suicide is giving in. The choice is yours.
Of course, suicide may be illegal, but how are you going to punish a dead person?
 
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