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Do people continue to believe in God? Where is the evidence? My question to the believers of God is, if He does exist, and is "all powerful" and "all knowing" then why does he allow things like famine and war to happen? Natural disasters like earthquakes and Tsunamis, why can't God simply prevent them?

This ties in with my second question, is God needed in this day and age? Surely with science and technology God isn't needed right? That and the fact that Gods actions have been strangely absent for the past 2000 years or so.

So, yeah, why do people continue to belive in God and obey the bible?
 
I think it's merely a force of habit; a one that refuses to die. It's hard to change people's way of living, and religion has, and in some cultures still does, dictated the way in which people live for millenia. It's just going to take time for people to let go of religion and change their way of living. Imo.
 
This is an argument that's gone on way too much and really at the heart of is pointless. Other normal peoples beliefs don't or shouldn't affect you or me in any way so I just let people get on with it since it's their own choice to do it and I won't force anyone to believe otherwise. Everyone has different reasons for following their respective faith.
 
Why do you bloody atheists insist on questioning peoples beliefs, and keep telling them they're wrong?

It's the same bloody arguement you produce every single time, and there's no right or wrong answer, because there is no answer.

Fuck sake, just let people get on with whatever they believe in, and stop being such a bunch of awkward "look how apathetic I am" teenage goits.
 
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I don't know what a "goit" is per se, if you meant git you should take it back. Direct attacks aren't permitted.

There is a point, but honestly if you ask us to prove to you that God doesn't exist, prove to me that the world wasn't created by accident by the sweat of a space-giant's arm pit. That is abouts as ridiculous as the whole God-creationist argument. There's as much proof in both scenarios i.e. fuck all.
 
People cling to religion, just the same as lovers cling to each other.

People see religion as a way of helping them, if you lose someone you really loved, be it family or friend, then alot of people feel like they don't have anything else to turn to.

Also, if you are raised into a religion, and your parents or whoever are serious about what they believe, this leads us to follow the same path. Although i think that if they aren't serious then the kid follows no path even although he/she is being raised that way.

I for one was baptised, had my first communion etc etc, but i do not at all believe in God.

I think people just see it as a way out, to get away from their problems and be happy about something..
 
The Phantarch said:
I don't know what a "goit" is per se, if you meant git you should take it back. Direct attacks aren't permitted.

There is a point, but honestly if you ask us to prove to you that God doesn't exist, prove to me that the world wasn't created by accident by the sweat of a space-giant's arm pit. That is abouts as ridiculous as the whole God-creationist argument. There's as much proof in both scenarios i.e. fuck all.
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Goit is my word for git.

You raise a valid point, it's why I've decided on nihlism, until someone can sway me otherwise.

The atheist arguement that the universe was nothing and exploded into something contradicts its own theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so how is the big bang plausible.

Both parties beliefs in my opinion are absolute rubbish, but I'm not about to go and make a big fuss about it. I let people believe as they see fit. I suggest everyone else does the same
 
Finnegan III said:
Why do you bloody atheists insist on questioning peoples beliefs, and keep telling them they're wrong?

It's the same bloody arguement you produce every single time, and there's no right or wrong answer, because there is no answer.

Fuck sake, just let people get on with whatever they believe in, and stop being such a bunch of awkward "look how apathetic I am" teenage goits.
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Agree. Aggressive Christians = Aggressive Atheists. They're both annoying.

I don't understand why Atheists even care why people believe in God. Does it really matter why?

As for the "why does God let this happen?!" idea: have you ever read the Old Testament? God isn't nice. At all. The concept of the loving, forgiving God is a relatively new Christian thing. Not everyone believes in a 'caring' god. There ARE religions other than Christianity.

Science and technology are great. But honestly, all they can tell us is "how"; they can't say why. Religion offers the "why" answer.
 
Erythritol said:
Science and technology are great. But honestly, all they can tell us is "how"; they can't say why. Religion offers the "why" answer.
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In other words, Religion tells us what we want to hear. It's a sense of comfort. I have not, do not and will not grudge anyone that sense of comfort - it's admirable, if nothing else. I'm just part of the opposition who'd rather be more skeptical.
 
I'm going to argue this as open mindedly as I can. I'm not a Christian. Paganism ftmfw.

Do people continue to believe in God? Where is the evidence? My question to the believers of God is, if He does exist, and is "all powerful" and "all knowing" then why does he allow things like famine and war to happen? Natural disasters like earthquakes and Tsunamis, why can't God simply prevent them?
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Satan. People seem to forget there's two forces working against each other here. People always seem to blame God, when they fail to consider that Satan may be at work.

This ties in with my second question, is God needed in this day and age? Surely with science and technology God isn't needed right? That and the fact that Gods actions have been strangely absent for the past 2000 years or so.
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For some people God is needed, for reassurance that there is someone watching over them, that there is an afterlife, and all the pain of life will somehow be washed away when they are in the presence of God in their afterlife. Technology or no, this world does need God and his people, it gives the true followers a sense of morality, and someone who will always hear their prayers. It gives them something to fight for, something to live for, and something they'd be willing to lay down their lives for. I don't know why people are always slagging off the God lovers, they believe in a deity of pure good. ...Apart from the extremists, they sux.
Sometimes when people feel they have noone in the world, others would argue that God is always with them.
 
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I have had a somewhat personal experience with God and miracles.

When my nephew was 2, he became really sick. When we took him to the hospital, the doctors ran tests on him, and they came back saying that he was in late-stage Leukemia. Everyone prayed for him, even different churches that we weren't affiliated with but knew people in. All of a sudden, a second test result asid that he didn't have Leukemia, but a severe case of Pneumonia.

And a second time I had an encounter with God was with my nephew again. Last September, he almost died from a massive seizure due to undetected Epilepsy. I kept praying that he'd be okay. He was flown by helicopter to a children's hospital in a city 2 hours south of my town in a different state. I didn't go, but I just kept praying.

See, I do believe in a God. I do believe in miracles. They do happen, and God does help, just not when he really doesn't have to. Things happen on earth for a reason. That reason or reasons I do not know nor can I explain, but they just do.
 
Well it's not really fair to use God as a scapegoat for that and say "Oh it's a miracle, God did it!" Because that how it comes across to me - You say that you just "know" it's God, but you don't. These "miracles" are either a) Luck - something happens when you least expect it, or when you think the worst or b) Logical reasons - something that happens because of another person(s) actions.

Miracles can't really be proved, and you can't really prove God supposedly makes them. That's being truthful too.
 
Aerith Gainsborough said:
Do people continue to believe in God? Where is the evidence? My question to the believers of God is, if He does exist, and is "all powerful" and "all knowing" then why does he allow things like famine and war to happen? Natural disasters like earthquakes and Tsunamis, why can't God simply prevent them?

This ties in with my second question, is God needed in this day and age? Surely with science and technology God isn't needed right? That and the fact that Gods actions have been strangely absent for the past 2000 years or so.

So, yeah, why do people continue to belive in God and obey the bible?
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There's too many different variations to "God."

Someone who believes in God would try to justify their belief by saying something like, "If you die unnaturally, it's God's will. He has higher plans for you." Personally, I think that's asinine. I don't believe in "God"--certainly not the calvinistic god that's supposedly all powerful and knowing. That's just me, though.

I can't explain why other people believe in God. Perhaps they find comfort by merely saying that they believe. If it turns out God doesn't exist, then no biggie. If it turns out God exists, but you didn't believe, then you'll supposedly burn in the fiery pits of Hell. Better safe than sorry, aye? Maybe they like the thought of "living after death." I don't know, but I ain't buying it.
 
I am not going to argue, but just say why I believe in God, just like you asked.

Knowing that God is there helps comfort me, you know, when you feel all alone, He (or maybe even she, or it, the Catholic Church at power again!) is there, and makes my mood just a bit happier. It also helps me find out some questions, like 'how did the universe start?' Well, I believe in The theory of evolution and the big bang theory, but God made those things happen. God created evolution, I know, it sounds absurd, but we have so many facts pointing it out, so God created evolution.

Aerith Gainsborough said:
This ties in with my second question, is God needed in this day and age? Surely with science and technology God isn't needed right? That and the fact that Gods actions have been strangely absent for the past 2000 years or so.
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Yes, God is needed. It answers questions like 'Is there life after death?' Technology is great and all, but it won't help after death. Science and technology won't help us live for ever happily, yes, we might live forever, but we will still have negative emotions, but God will take them away, in heaven

Now, that is my share, and final answer, I won't partake in this thread anymore, (probably)
 
Technology can prove all of these questions. I'm sure one day we'll have the big bang theory cleared up. It's not that people need the proof. We know that there is a chance god might not be real. That doesn't stop people from believes what they can and cannot believe. People believe in god, angels, spirits, etc. People choose to believe in them for comfort and guidance. I know people who believe in angels because they help us guide us in life, and watch over us. It makes them secure. I'm not saying all religious people believe in this, but that's my sense about it.

Also religion helps guide us in the right direction. For example the 10 commandments. "You shall not murder, neither steal, commit adultery, neither lie etc." If you break these rules that gives you more of a chance going to hell. These guidelines are simple, but people obey them because they do not want to go to hell, or whatever they believe in life after death.
 
Finnegan III said:
Goit is my word for git.

You raise a valid point, it's why I've decided on nihlism, until someone can sway me otherwise.

The atheist arguement that the universe was nothing and exploded into something contradicts its own theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so how is the big bang plausible.

Both parties beliefs in my opinion are absolute rubbish, but I'm not about to go and make a big fuss about it. I let people believe as they see fit. I suggest everyone else does the same
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You raise a valid point too. I agree both arguments sound rather fictitious to me, there must be a third explanation that has eluded humankind.
 
Well, I personally say that the Goddess is merely "laissez faire". It is more or less that She doesn't interfere. She allows it all because it is a way for us to learn. If the world were perfect, what would we learn? How would we grow as people? The stress we deal with as people enriches our lives. That's my two cents on that section.
 
Well, in that case it may as well be bollocks to God, we live and learn. We may as well live life to the full seeing as God isn't about to do anything about it so why should we live the way he/she/it decides.
 
Darkstar said:
God created evolution, I know, it sounds absurd, but we have so many facts pointing it out, so God created evolution.
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Facts? When it comes to God's being and what he can do, I'd say we can consider few things as fact. There's no credible proof.
 
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