Who Was In Control?

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The game never fully explains this, who's in control of whom. Is Sephiroth controlling Jenova or is she controlling him? as you know Jenova was disguised as sephiroth for most of disk one and the start of disk 2 (since the real sephiroth was in suspended animation in the northern crator) it was Jenova (as sephiroth) who killed Aerith, but was that because Jenova saw Aerith as a threat to her plan or was it because Sephiroth saw her as a threat to his plans? Since after all Aerith was the only one who could summon Holy which they all thought would destroy meteor

thats just one of the questions that makes you think who was in control Jenova or Sephiroth?

Ill post what i think after i think about it a bit more :lol:
 
I think Aeris was much of a threat as any character in FFVII...but that´s not the topic.

Personaly i think and have read (on wikipedia) that Jenova first tryed to possess Sephiroth but since Sephiroth had similar goals he learned to manipulate the jenova cells and ended up manipulating them.

That actually makes sense because when you fight Jenova for the last time it seems that she is protecting Sephiroth because you fight her before fighting him.

So my conclusion is that Sephiroth learned to control Jenovas cells...or perhaps Jenova allowed herself to be controled by Sephiroth since he had the same goals she once had.
 
yes i would have to say that jenova was definitely in control, since sephiroth is just a soldier with jenova cells...right? i may be wrong i havent played this game in ages. but yeah i definitely think that jenova was in control since it seemed like sephiroth was doing everything for "mother".
 
Is Sephiroth controlling Jenova or is she controlling him?
I remember a thread like this before. I could be wrong though. :P Anyway, I lean towards Jenova controls Sephiroth. However, the relationship between the two is mutually beneficial. They're both getting what each wants - Jenova destroys another inferior race & Sephiroth takes what he feels is rightfully Jenova's. It's a win-win.
but was that because Jenova saw Aerith as a threat to her plan or was it because Sephiroth saw her as a threat to his plans?
Since Sephiroth wasn't present, I'd have to say it was because Jenova saw her as a threat. After all, Jenova is responsible for destroying the entire Cetra race - why wouldn't she want to finish what she started?
 
I said it before, Jenovah was in control of Sephiroth cuz of the way he always seemed to be drawn to Jenovah, who was his mommy lol :P I wish i had a mom like that lol ^_^
 
Ultimania Omega Guide created by Square-Enix said:
***Sephiroth's will and Jenova's will*** (Page 53)
The Sephiroth clones seen in various locations continue gathering for the
Reunion. Seemingly, the will of Jenova as a human is the result of it
consuming Sephiroth's spirit; in actuality, Sephiroth is controlling Jenova.

Nuff said.
 
I think it's more like this.
Jenova's cells are connected to one another, even if they aren't physically attatched. They draw back to one another when seperated, as we see with the reunion.

Let's take a popular quote from Hojo in Disc two as he describes his research and study of Jenova's behavior:

"You see, even if Jenova's body is dismembered, it will eventually become one again. That's what is meant by Jenova's Reunion. I have been waiting for the Reunion to start. Five years have passed, and now the Clones have begun to return. I thought the clones would begin to gather at Midgar where Jenova is stored. But my predictions were not entirely correct. Jenova itself began to move away from the Shinra Building. But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it was all Sephiroth's doing. Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the Lifestream; he wants to manipulate the Clones himself."
It could be argued that the presense of Jenova's cells in Sephiroth's body caused him to have the ambition and desire to destroy the planet and "become a God" as he once said...

If we recall the scene where Zack and Cloud escape from Nibelhiem mansion...What happened at the mansion? Both Cloud and Zack were infused with Jenova cells. What happens to most people when they are infused with the cells? They become mindless drones like the black caped men who roam the world...Cloud's body could not fight off the infusion, and he became comatose. Zack on the other hand; first class soldier, was able to resist the effect of the cells on the body. Both Zack and Sephiroth are seemingly mentally unnaffected by the presense of Jenova's cells.

Jenova does not have full mental control over strong willed people such as Zack and Sephiroth. Zack's overpowerment of the cell's effect on the body gives us proof that not all people are affected...

During his travels through the lifestream, Sephiroth came into control of the Jenova cells which plagued his body. He began to control Jenova.
 
Jenova would have been in control if she was fully restored, but I didnt see any thing in the game to indicate Sephiroth was taking orders.
 
Well, we know what SE have announced as being Jenova's and Sephiroth's unique characteristics in the game: Jenova ability to alter something's physical appearance, and Sephiroth's strong will.

We don't know whether Sephiroth obtained such strong will-power after his descent into the lifestream, or whether it was innate... however it seems evident that Sephiroth manipulating Jenova's power for his own benefit. It is also unknown whether they were direct affiliates; it only strikes me as a 'used or be used' situation for Sephiroth.

I don't know the specifics of what SE have announced, but it seems there's good reason for the argument to go both ways.
 
i say that jevova was in control of sephiroth the whole game. Sephiroth was blabbering on about how mother wanted him to do this and se wanted him to do this and she wanted him to do that and it never failed.
 
Jenova was certainly not in control of Sephiroth. There are no clues in the game whatsoever that give any hint of Jenova having control over him. Sephiroth utilizes the Jenova cells in his body in order to manipulate the rest of Jenova. Not to mention that he hacked her up into pieces and weakened her before manipulating her body. He was smart about it. =]
 
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