To all men: What do you actually think of women?

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Yes, what do you think of them? Do you think that they only serve to bring satisfaction to men or as someone who trully deserves respect?

I came with this question since most of the guys at my school think of women as one thing: just a peace of meat good for sex. I once tried to argue with them about how wrong they were and they ended up laughing, saying that if I kept thinking that way women would always play with my feelings.

Since most of the members of this place are teens and others are matured people, I would like to see your point of view.

Last time I remember, a guy came and asked one of my friends in the most disgusting way unimaginable if she ever had sex with someone , he was quite vulgar if you ask me and I don't know how I could control my rage and not braking that SOB's nose.

I just feel really annoyed to see how many men treat women like shit and then seeing how women love being treated like shit, quite ironic but it's what I've seen so far. There are their exceptions though, minimal if you ask me since the 89.97975% of women like Bad Boys over Good Guys.

Is it the rude attitude? Perhaps the way they treat them as if they weren't worth anything?

I keep analizing the facts and other variables that might affect the final answer to this dilema and I can't seem to come with a solution.

Ladies like gentlemen yet they treat them as if they were too good for them and then they end up going with the wrong dude and screwing their lives.

So what do you think? Is our civilization so wrong that the whole balance of what is right and what is wrong is totally disrupted?
 
Completely, some men think women were just put on this earth for the sole purpose of reproduction, in my opinion, I don't really know if that's true or not.
You did make a strong point about women liking being treated like crap.That same think happened to my sister, the guy she was dating had the looks, personality, and intelligence of a dog's butt, but a lot of the girls in school were pining over him, because he was some kind of ''gangster-guy'' A lot of the guys I've seen while playing various video games online turn completely different when a player who is an obvious girl comes into the fray. They just don't stop hitting on her, and I'm like ''She just wants to play the damn game, she shouldn't have to disguise her gender to do something as simple as that.''
 
i think we should treat them fairly...otherwise they get revenge, for example Katherine (we flirt all the time) got pissed off by something i said to her (not going to say what) and refused to speak to me for 3 weeks..and even now she still casually mentions what i said when she's bored...

so ive learnt that you have to be nice to them if you want them to be nice to you :)

Like in science - theres this Chav who just turns round to the girl on the backrow and asks her if she'd....well :P you know what i mean and he keeps going on and on and on about it to her :dry:

thats the type of people i hate - those who just use girls for sex, we gotta respect them and stuff otherwise we wont get respect back.
 
I obviously have no idea what men really think of women %D Regarding the girls going for badboys though....I dunno. I'm guilty of it myself. There was this guy in highschool, who was the nicest guy I'd ever met, he was sweet, he was caring, and he practically worshiped the ground I walked on. So of course, I didn't want anything to do with him. I went out with this other guy who liked me, who was of course, an asshole. The overly cliche sex-crazed asshole teen-guy.


I think the reason I do it, isn't really cause I want a guy to treat me like shit. And yes, guys can be too nice. But what I really mean by that is, a guy that just goes along with whatever you say. You tell him to do something and he just nods, smiles and does it. Or, he puts you too high on that pedestal, respects you a little too much. It's kind of scary when a guy does that, cause with that guy that liked me so much in high school, all I could think of then, was that I wasn't good enough for him. That he deserved someone so much better than me.

I don't want to be treated like shit, but I don't want to be treated like I'm better than him either. I just want him to....treat me like a woman he likes/loves. I want him to treat me like a human being, and to also know the appropriate times when it's okay to treat me like a piece of meat >=D

Also, on a much more personal note, I have my opinions and whatnot, but when I'm in a relationship, I don't like making the first moves, or being in control ^^;; It makes me very uncomfortable, I like a guy who is capable of being 'in control', and isn't afraid to make the first move. A lot of the 'nice guys' tend not to do that, since they're afraid it'll make them look like an asshole.
 
Angel Valentine said:
I obviously have no idea what men really think of women %D Regarding the girls going for badboys though....I dunno. I'm guilty of it myself. There was this guy in highschool, who was the nicest guy I'd ever met, he was sweet, he was caring, and he practically worshiped the ground I walked on. So of course, I didn't want anything to do with him. I went out with this other guy who liked me, who was of course, an asshole. The overly cliche sex-crazed asshole teen-guy.


I think the reason I do it, isn't really cause I want a guy to treat me like shit. And yes, guys can be too nice. But what I really mean by that is, a guy that just goes along with whatever you say. You tell him to do something and he just nods, smiles and does it. Or, he puts you too high on that pedestal, respects you a little too much. It's kind of scary when a guy does that, cause with that guy that liked me so much in high school, all I could think of then, was that I wasn't good enough for him. That he deserved someone so much better than me.

I don't want to be treated like shit, but I don't want to be treated like I'm better than him either. I just want him to....treat me like a woman he likes/loves. I want him to treat me like a human being, and to also know the appropriate times when it's okay to treat me like a piece of meat >=D

Also, on a much more personal note, I have my opinions and whatnot, but when I'm in a relationship, I don't like making the first moves, or being in control ^^;; It makes me very uncomfortable, I like a guy who is capable of being 'in control', and isn't afraid to make the first move. A lot of the 'nice guys' tend not to do that, since they're afraid it'll make them look like an asshole.
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So what I gather from this post is that in order to be the perfect guy, you have to be not to nice, but not too douche-baggy as well.

EDIT: No wait, that isn't it at all, what about those women you see on Maury who suffer from abusive relationships? The guys really treat them like meat to say the least. They always beat them, but the women are always saying ''But I still love him!'' Whenever I see that, my mind blows into a million pieces, and I just think ''He beats you, why do you love him? He obviously doesn't love you too much.'' They can never give good reasons as to why they stay as well.
 
I've seriously never thought of women as worthy of disrespecting. For one, I hate making enemies, and two, most women are highly intelligent and great companions.

But for some reason, these days, a lot of girls just tend to get too....erm, air-headed. I mean, they form these 'images' of themselves that aren't entirely true, i.e. they want attention really bad, or they themselves are bad.

So it depends on which type of woman you're talking about....as obviously it is kind of hard to generalize women as a whole class unto themselves.

I treat women as I treat anyone: I try to make friends with them, depending on whether I observe them as being good friends to begin with.....
which is why all my girl friends are pretty smart and not snotty like some are. =/

And yes, the whole thing about women being treated like crap is something wrong I think in our society. It all goes back to what is moral and what is not, and the whole idea reverts back to who teaches morality.
It is up to the person to decide whether or not they wanted to be treated that way, but I mean, come on, it's only prolonging the illusion, and it won't be long 'til you're disillusioned.
 
So what I gather from this post is that in order to be the perfect guy, you have to be not to nice, but not too douche-baggy as well.
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Honestly, yes. I'm not kidding. The perfect guy is just someone who acts like himself. Who doesn't purposely try to go over the top nice, and doesn't go, "well, she probably would like it if I acted like an ass, so I'll try that out"

EDIT: No wait, that isn't it at all, what about those women you see on Maury who suffer from abusive relationships? The guys really treat them like meat to say the least. They always beat them, but the women are always saying ''But I still love him!'' Whenever I see that, my mind blows into a million pieces, and I just think ''He beats you, why do you love him? He obviously doesn't love you too much.'' They can never give good reasons as to why they stay as well.
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A.) There's always those women that no matter what the situation is, think if they stay long enough they'll be able to change the man, no matter how stupid it sounds.

B.) They have no other options. They don't want to go back and live at home with parents, relatives, etc....cause they think it would be showing a sign of weakness, and would rather take a beating (to a certain extent)

C.) Whenever children are involved, the 'stupid' factor will sometimes escalate in a woman. Some think that it's more important to stay together for the sake of the child, even though the relationship is completely unhealthy to both the woman and the kid. A warped sense of the, 'perfect household'.


And some women, especially once they start getting older, are just that desperately afraid of being alone. And they just figure they can't get anyone else. Even as stupid as that also sounds.
 
I'm a guy, and here is what I say. Short and sweet.

1. Women are biologically superior to men.
2. Women are smarter than men.
3. Women are more gentle than men. They wouldn't get into wars, they'd just yell at each other.
4. Women are more loving than men.

Only thing I see here that men have going for them is that we are naturally better looking ;). We don't need make-up to be pretty :D
 
Gatekpr said:
Only thing I see here that men have going for them is that we are naturally better looking ;). We don't need make-up to be pretty :D
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Heh, heck yeah. :D
But it would help if balanced out the argument out a bit there, bud, -- traitor... :P

Anyways, I thought about that part about how women want to change men no matter what....well, I personally think it is stupid ---for lack of a better word --- I think it's just sad, really. How far does one have to go, that's the question. I mean, how much punishment mandates this kind of behavior anyway.
Why don't they just leave the guy?
There's nothing stopping them.
 
It's a female's natural desire/ocd need to mother and care for and make things right. Sometimes instincts are a bad thing, like in the case you just mentioned. Of course, if they didn't have that instinct, we also wouldn't have a surplus population anymore...hmmm...gene therapy...

Anyway, they rely WAY too much on their hormones to make their judgments instead of their minds. It's as Dane Cook said "Women will make up the STUPIDEST reasons to stay with a guy she doesn't even LIKE."

"Girl, we're here because we care about you, just leave him."

"It's not that easy, my CDs are in his truck."
 
Without trying to sound completely sexist, I think of them as hazards while behind the wheel of an automobile.

I'm only being half serious.
 
I've read once that women "complain about everything, yet they know nothing".

This was from 2 centuries ago, though now I'm seeing a lot of similarities in some women/girls especially because they invoke their 'liberties' and 'rights' in federal cases, or in even more frivolous, in arguments about everything. You don't see men saying something like that....well, they do but only less...erm, emotionally. And some women just want the attention, for some reason. That annoys me the most. Thank goodness not a lot of girls I know are like that.

Why is that?
 
Yes in fact, I hate comeplete assholes who just try to impress women, Seriously I have this problem with controlling my anger everytime I see a women being seriously maltreated by her boyfriend, but I end up doing nothing since it's actually none of my business. But, if by any reason I see him doing her any physical harm, that dude will know whose Mr. Fist.

That's why I am neither nice nor bad, I just act normally like I am, main reason why they think of me as mysterious and unpredictable. Yeah, I remember one of them saying that I looked like Barbie's Ken, which annoyed me a bit because I hate Ken :angry:

Also the fact that some women just enjoy manipulating us in order to make us fit their "perfect standards" is so damn irritating.
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True, there are no worse drivers than old Asian women. Senile, no peripheral vision, and no common sense :P

Wow, I just made an ageist, racist, and sexist remark all in one post! :D
 
Women... well I think of women as the soul reason for compasion in this lowley world. I think of them as mothers, daughters, sisters and soul mates. To me a womens body is a work of art. I don't care if a womens fat, skinny, or odd shaped, it sure beats looking at a naked guy. Our bodys are more like tool boxes with basic functions. When I was young I looked at women as a hunt or chase... hince the nickname I suppose. When I turned 18 my daughter was born, a couple years later her mom split. I raised my daughter on my own till bout 7 years ago. Now I have found my true soul mate and still have my daughter, so women are much more than when I was younger. My mom and me have always been close and I learned at an early age how guys can mistreat a women (my mom). So I was raised with more repect for what women go through than most.

But I also know that women can hurt, scorn, even kill a man. Just by the meare emotions they can bring in ones heart. They are to be treated with respect or you will be the one sorry in the end.
 
Julius Argexis said:
Yes in fact, I hate comeplete assholes who just try to impress women, Seriously I have this problem with controlling my anger everytime I see a women being seriously maltreated by her boyfriend, but I end up doing nothing since it's actually none of my business. But, if by any reason I see him doing her any physical harm, that dude will know whose Mr. Fist.

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I've always dreamed of doing something like this.:|

I quite agree, if it's definitely something physical, one has the grounds to intervene. If not, it's none of my business. So I just keep out of it in case they were just having 'fun' or whatnot.
Besides, not doing anything when something like that happens makes you look like a coward, much like everybody else who doesn't....
 
I am a modern chivalry activist. I must say in total agreement with the female defense statement that if I ever see a guy physically hurting a girl, I will plant one so hard in the face that he'll be bleeding out his ass for a week. It's not only those who stand back that are cowards, but the men who hit women as well. Most women, I'm sorry to say, are just physically unprepared or unable to fight someone bigger and likely stronger than them. Psychologically as well, for the intimidation factor. Any man who takes advantage of a woman in that manner deserves swift and righteous punishment.
 
Gatekpr said:
I am a modern chivalry activist. I must say in total agreement with the female defense statement that if I ever see a guy physically hurting a girl, I will plant one so hard in the face that he'll be bleeding out his ass for a week. It's not only those who stand back that are cowards, but the men who hit women as well. Most women, I'm sorry to say, are just physically unprepared or unable to fight someone bigger and likely stronger than them. Psychologically as well, for the intimidation factor. Any man who takes advantage of a woman in that manner deserves swift and righteous punishment.
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Agread totally. It really makes the guy doing the beatin look like a total wimp. Most guys who do that to women can't really fight at all... So they beat on someone alot weaker than them.
 
Sever Off said:
Agread totally. It really makes the guy doing the beatin look like a total wimp. Most guys who do that to women can't really fight at all... So they beat on someone alot weaker than them.
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Yeah, it's a mark of cowardice.
Which is why it is good that some women are taking defense classes.
But sometimes they get carried away with that as well.
But at least they can kick butt. Especially to those who them wrong.
 
There is nothing I hate more in a woman than overactive feminism. So you're a woman. Alright, cool. But when I try to help you with something or hold a door open for you or something and you go off the handle on me about not needing the help and "I can do it myself", it's just outright rude and disrespectful. I also hate them not letting me pay for them when we do things >.>...that really bugs me.
 
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