Help Stupid Demon Wall!!!!!! DX<

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Lady Ashe the 3rd

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i need help no matter what i do i can't seem to beat this stupid demon walls in this dumb tomb DX can anyone help me out here? so far my part is this:
Vaan-lv 15
Balthier-lv 16
Fran-lv 15
Basch-lv 16
Ashe-lv 16
Penelo-lv 15
and of course Vossler at lv 19 but he's a guest so he doesn't count

Vaan, Balthier, Ashe, and Penelo have a Mist Quicking:
Vaan-red spiral
Balthier-Fires of war
Ashe-Northswain's glow
Penelo-intercession

if there is anything else you need to know feel free to ask me any help what-so-ever will be greatly appreciated.
 
There's a crystal bug in that dungeon. I suggest that you grind to around 19~20. Usually a good tip is to have your characters around the same level as the guests. The wall can be a bit of a pain, especially if you're underleveled.

May I ask how this boss is causing you trouble? Do you keep running out of time to kill it? Does it do too much damage to you? If you give me a little more information, I'll probably be able to help you more as well.

edit: small thing as well, are you sure you're talking about XII? You posted in VII, so I just want to confirm which game we're talking about =P
 
*Moved to FFXII help booth*

Are you fighting the first demon wall or the second demon wall? The first demon wall is an optional boss, which you can fight later in the game.
If you are having trouble with the second demon wall, as Yatsumiko said, grind your characters a bit more.
 
Yatsumiko said:
There's a crystal bug in that dungeon. I suggest that you grind to around 19~20. Usually a good tip is to have your characters around the same level as the guests. The wall can be a bit of a pain, especially if you're underleveled.

May I ask how this boss is causing you trouble? Do you keep running out of time to kill it? Does it do too much damage to you? If you give me a little more information, I'll probably be able to help you more as well.

edit: small thing as well, are you sure you're talking about XII? You posted in VII, so I just want to confirm which game we're talking about =P
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i ether run out of time or it kills me and did i really just post this in the wrong spot? DX dang it now that darn typeo monkey is messing with my vision TT_TT
 
It's okay, Uncle will move it to the right spot :)

I had a lot of trouble with the Wall as well. IIRC there are little urn like things with fire. If you destroy those, the wall stops moving for a small period of time. Try getting to level 19 or 20 with your characters, then try that. Is your gear up to date? That's always important as well.


edit: ninjas. He already moved it Dx!
 
Yatsumiko said:
It's okay, Uncle will move it to the right spot :)

I had a lot of trouble with the Wall as well. IIRC there are little urn like things with fire. If you destroy those, the wall stops moving for a small period of time. Try getting to level 19 or 20 with your characters, then try that. Is your gear up to date? That's always important as well.


edit: ninjas. He already moved it Dx!
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hmm my gear? well since my troubled time with Judge Ghis i had to sell thing, including half of my gear for potions, to beat the guy so my gear has been cut down to half D:. all i have right now are: 3 iron swords, 2 ancient swords, 1 head gear and leather cap, 1 chromed leathers, 3 buckler shields, a bronze helm and 2 ringmail along with 3 orrachea armlets and a manufacted nethicite for accessories

lol ninja Uncle XD
 
Yeah, you might want to grind to get some loot to sell and update your gear a bit. That could also be why your damage output is too low to kill the demon wall in time. That coupled with underleveling can really hurt you. If you're not into grinding then you should just pick three people to mainly level up and level up the others on the side, but focus on the main three. For me, I already had everyone at stage two quickenings when I was at that point (I loved grinding in that game).

Just perservere and you'll beat them in no time
 
Yatsumiko said:
Yeah, you might want to grind to get some loot to sell and update your gear a bit. That could also be why your damage output is too low to kill the demon wall in time. That coupled with underleveling can really hurt you. If you're not into grinding then you should just pick three people to mainly level up and level up the others on the side, but focus on the main three. For me, I already had everyone at stage two quickenings when I was at that point (I loved grinding in that game).

Just perservere and you'll beat them in no time
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wow level 2 quickenings! i didn't know they could be leveled up as well 0o0 and thanks i'll do just that all that failing was giving me a massive headache ^^|| anyway again thanks for the help XD
 
No problem :-)

Quickenings have three stages to them for each character. The way the quickening system works is that while you're spamming it, the system keeps track of which levels you are using and adds them to a tally. If you do certain combinations, you'll achieve a bonus 'quickening' at the end of your timer that does additional damage. The most powerful one is Black Hole (again IIRC, it's been a year at least since I've even looked at my game's cover) and it can do a huge amount of damage.

Try getting all of your characters to at least stage one quickening, do the fire trick that I mentioned in the above posts, and save your quickenings for when you're about to lose. It's kind of silly to expend all that mana at the beginning of a fight. It leaves you near useless for healing / offensive magic for the rest of the fight.

If you're still having trouble, let me know and I'll try to help you out more. :-)
 
Yatsumiko said:
No problem :-)

Quickenings have three stages to them for each character. The way the quickening system works is that while you're spamming it, the system keeps track of which levels you are using and adds them to a tally. If you do certain combinations, you'll achieve a bonus 'quickening' at the end of your timer that does additional damage. The most powerful one is Black Hole (again IIRC, it's been a year at least since I've even looked at my game's cover) and it can do a huge amount of damage.

Try getting all of your characters to at least stage one quickening, do the fire trick that I mentioned in the above posts, and save your quickenings for when you're about to lose. It's kind of silly to expend all that mana at the beginning of a fight. It leaves you near useless for healing / offensive magic for the rest of the fight.

If you're still having trouble, let me know and I'll try to help you out more. :-)
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thanks and i will let you know if and when i need more help X3
 
FWI on the second demon wall ( I think the first one also) on the far sides of the bridge you should see torches lit up, if you touch both of them on each sides you can keep the wall from moving for a short while. I do reccomend defeating both Demon Walls so you can get the secret area and a good weapon (for the time being.)


But I killed them with mist's attacks, but I have defeated them the old fashion way, and if your around Vossoler's level and keep the wall from moving, you should be alright (y)
 
Happy Dog's suggestion will help a lot. Turning the torches off will really help slow the Wall down long enough to perform your Mists and attacks. I also remember Basch's Mist attacks being the most effective, or maybe it was Ashe. :hmm: If you beat the Second wall and skip the first for now, you can build levels on one of the monsters inside for a very, very powerful axe that might help you too.

I would recommend a higher level than 20 though. I've never been there at level 20. I'm always level 36-38 when I'm there, but then again the monsters are pretty easy when I do get there, so maybe 20-25 will be good enough.
 
thanks everyone i'm leveling up now as we speak and getting every thing else in order before i have a crack at them dumb walls again DX
 
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