[SPOILERS] I want secrets... I want them now...

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im not posting any spoilers, but i figure in order to give me what i want you guys might have too..

im playing ff7 again, ive only played it once before and though i did not beat it, i did get to the last boss... anyhow while i played i made several mistakes along my mery ol' way.. and i missed several things.. like vincent and yuffie..


so what i want is for you guys to tell me not HOW to do things, but what to look for...

example: when you go to nibilum mansion thers an unlockable character there, get it...


oh, another quick question... i havnt quite finished deciding who i want my main part of 3 too be... (rotating characters is in my opinion impractical in ffvii) im leaning towards cloud, tifa, and either red cid or yuffie...

anyway either way i go i dont quite understand the materia system... it would indicate that equipping alot of elements to one character would effectively make them your "Black/white mage" because of stat raises and falls.. with mag growing and str falling... likewise putting things like "cover" on characters raises their hp and makes em a sort of tank...

my question is, is it practical to give your party defined rolls such as mage/healer, attacker, tank, or should characters be "materiazed" to generate round characters, for example giving everyone Fire>all or blizzard> all and then giving them also things like cover or D-Blow

the kind of thing that if i dont get it and find out i missed it later ill be PISSED about...
 
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First of all:CALM DOWN!

Have you looked in the FFVII help thread, its a great place to for semi-nubes to get a quick refresher on the basics of FFVII?

As far as jobs/roles for your FFVII people goes, the Materia system allows for the player to choose how they would like there party to perform. Its not really a good idea to load your party up with same materia on all battle members.

This is just a waste of recourses and leads to predictable gameplay, instead what you could do is get to kow your Characters a little better and define there roles based on there strengths.

For Example you don't really think the steal/steal-as-well/mug materia belong on Barret?...no, they go on Yuffie, and you don't load Aeris/aerith up with the Cover Materia because she is defensively weaker than the others and should be usd as healer given her higher magic stats.

The roles are there if you want them...but you are'nt locked into them forever its the beauty of the materia system ,friend!

Be just a little more specific in what you want to know to avoid the dreaded....SPOILERS

All this talk puts me in the mood for FFVII
 
im not worried about spoilers because i already know the story, i posted the spoilers tag incase someone else ended up reading this...

basially i would like to know of any deffinate "have to get this here or you wont be able to come back for it" stuff...

for an example, you know how in ffx, if you dont get the tresure in bevelle temple, you cant go back for it, and therefor cant get anima or the magus sisters or yunnas celestial weapon... that kinda stuff
 
LilDemon147 said:
for an example, you know how in ffx, if you dont get the tresure in bevelle temple, you cant go back for it, and therefor cant get anima or the magus sisters or yunnas celestial weapon... that kinda stuff
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Alright then.....but first of all the very fact that you can't get that treasure after that event means you dont have to. lts already unlocked in the Baaj Temple and you dont have to worry about getting it afterward.

Well apart from Gaia's cliff and the Shinra building there s only really the UnderSea reactor areas that are locked after you go there the first time.

Most of the Items in GAIA's cliff are avialable at Costa Del Sol after you get the Highwind, there a few items in the Shinra Building, the Pile Banger(Barrett), the PowerGlove(?)Tifa) its Atk is low but powers up when She's Afflicted With a status these items are in the Item Shop in the Shirra Building....um The HP Shout for Cait Sith is there to in the Locker room.

Do you know about the Turtle's Paradise Flyer Sidequest?
 
no i dont know about that sidequest, do tell... not the whole thing just where/when to start it..

p.s. ive played ffx a billion times and every time i DIDNT get the tresure, i DIDNT get the other stuff, it wouldnt let me.. i guess a better example though would be the jecht shot, if you dont get it on the ride from kilika i dont think you can afterwards (or maby you can and i dont know) and the octagon rod in ff9, that teaches vivi the GA spells, if you dont get it in the passing, and get to disc 4, that town is blocked by lifa tree roots
 
Hold on... Are you trying to 100% perfect game it or just not miss items.

Of what I can think of off the top of my head...

Yuffie is first obtainable after the mythril mine on the first disc (thats the cave after the midgar zolom).

Vincent is first obtainable when the party first travel to Nibelheim. This obviously doesnt count Clouds flashback.

The player can only ever have two unmastered elemental materias (one from the mayor of midgar in which you MUST answer his password correctly the first time, and one which involves playing tifas theme on her piano in the kalm flashback).

Certain enemy skills (useful ones too) are also missable on one or more of the three enemyskills avaliable to the player. Make sure you obtain ALL of the huge materia in the game.

Theres more but these are all I can think of at the moment
 
Ah call me a lazy spam bit here but why not just buy a guide if you want all the spoilers? would that not be more efficient to your cause? Im not trying to be rude or any such thing but to me that sounds like a better bet for you and you could keep track better...or just google one online?
 
heh ya got me wrong... i try to refain from using guides at all costs, part of playing the game is figureing it out for myself... and like i said i already know the spoilers, i was just looking for the sort of thing that is easily missable that could have a major impact on the game.. i see now that theres not much going on in terms of game breaking missable stuff that i cant go back for, thanks guys
 
By and by. you can get the jecht shot afterwards dude! just go back to the boat later

Anyway. there are 6 Flyers to get:
#1 House in the sector 5 Slums near the stairs inside,the house is furthest building to the right.
#2 YOU MUST GET THIS 1st or 2nd time at the Shinra.Inc Building, on a bill board on the 2nd floor
#3 At the INN on the Gold Suacer,maybe the item shop?
#4 check the Weapons shop in cosmo Canyon.
#5 Is located at the INN in Cosmo Canyon.
#6 And finally the last one is......in Yuffies basemnt?....Wtf .l kope you got her earlier MinorDiablos

Does that mean l have to tell you about the Wutai Sidequest?

Oh, when you parachute into Midgar look all through the train tracks for additional Stat Sources and the highly beneficial W-Item materia, its in the complete opposite direction
you have to go....phew

Anymore and the Mods will have my ass!
 
Thats great LiLDemon!
Always glad to help some guy l don't know win a game I've beaten 9 times lol
Definitley go and get FFVIII for sure its a great game aswell
 
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