School Fighting (Good, or bad?)

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I've been thinking about why the schools haven't come up with a way to stop fighting, I know there is probably nothing that will stop it, but perhaps they could try something. I mean, fights at school today are very violent, perhaps even life threatening. Here is a video of my friend who got into a fight with another student. My friend is grade 9 (the one who keeps his shirt on, and he is the kurdish, or 'brown' guy), and the student who started it, a grade 12 (the 'white' guy who loses his shirt). What I find intresting is, that my friend is actually not like that at all. He's usually just the guy to tells jokes and plays around. When I saw this (you can actually hear me try to break it up in the video), I couldn't believe that he was the guy with whom I've been good friends with for 3 years.

Click here for the video.

It shows how extreamly different someone can become in the blink of an eye. Just think, if he hadn't let go of the guys neck, what do you think would've happened? And kids now-a-days have knives, what if the other guy pulled a knife on him? What then?

Perhaps consequences should be more sever for those who brake these very strict rules of "0 Tolerence". No one in the fight got into trouble. Where is the justice? Maybe cameras in the schools corner ceiling are neccesary. Because lord knows I've gotten into my share of fights, and the actions the principles take (I've been suspended by 4 different principles, maybe it was just bad luck, or its their method... or something) aren't very harsh. A one/two day suspension? C'mon, whats that going to teach?

So, what are your thoughts about school fighting/bullying?
 
I'm sort of used to the fighting that happens at my school. There have been a few times where two guys right next to me would just all of a sudden start fighting. You definately can't expect the students to break it up since all they do is gather around and watch. Thankfully, though, the faculty and staff break up the fights pretty quick so they don't last very long. The bad thing is that if the students can't fight in the school, they usually end up fighting outside of school. Last month, one of the students was killed. Him and a group of other students gathered outside of another student home. They wanted him to come outside so they could jump him. They threw rocks at the house and yelled. This was appearently not the first time the student in the house had been harassed. After a time, the student in the house and his mom both came out with guns and, after firing warning shots into the air, shot into the crowd of students. One of them was shot and killed. I don't think anyone can even remember what they were fighting about in the first place.

-that idea you had about security cams? My school already does that. there are cameras all over the place.
 
Well i think that the problem comes with the fact people are overall getting more violent!

You can´t only blame the school system you have also to blame the parents and most of all blame the kids who do this.

A kid who starts a fight at school should get a suspension right away!

I mean i saw the video with your friend and it seems that he was actually defending himself and eventually beat the hell out of that shirtless idiot in an act of rage.

You see what you need to do is instal security cameras, allow the teachers to be more severe and have proper school security guards who should have no problem making the kids who are causing trouble at school spend a night at prison!

Kids who start fights today...might be causing serious crimes in the future and we need to have acess to them and make them understand the consequences of their acts at an early age or it might be to late!

P.S: That kid withought shirt looked like a complete wacko i mean he was screaming at the end "I´m still up! I´m still up!":huh:
How pathetic is that?
 
I think fighting in schools is bad generally. Fighting too stand up too bulling is good, but punishing them for standing up for themselves isnt. I have gotten into fights quite alot, especially when i was like 10. I wouldnt start fights but id finnish it. But that stoped a few years ago dont no why probably cos im alot bigger than i was.
Back on topic, fighting as in really violent fighting with like knives and weapons, is ethically wrong. the people that fight often havent had any disapline. Much like some elephants in a case study a few years ago. What happened was. A group of young elephants were introduced into a wildlife reserve. where they started tearing the place up, and killing other animals(sounding familliar). to stop this the rangers at the reserve braught in some mature male elephants in the same reserve. Then the mature elephants basically gave the younger ones a slap and put them in order.
So what im saying is the young people nowadays dont have respect for athourity and show no understanding of how it works. This is where the softy softy approach has failed my country. Because the young men do not repect each other or anything else for that matter because they have no disapline and have not been disaplined effectively .they havent grown up into young men because they have no strong male influances.
As for young women i dunno since i aint a women but it seems some young women have lost the yerning to be femmine. and then become masculine.
Now just reading this through i sound like a old man when im 16 and a bit.
 
I believe that if someone hits you, you hit them back. Both my primary and high school said if someone hits you, tell a teacher. In all honestly, the teachers usually did zippo.

My godson is only 6 and was being picked on at school and the teachers did nothing. Then one day the boy hits him and my godson hits him back. THEN the teachers did something and called in my uncle, who basically laughed in their faces and told them to shove off.
 
Yeah, if the teachers actually did something this sort of thing wouldn't happen and once the 'bully' sees nothing will happen to him\her they keep on doing it over and over.
 
kids have to many rights all parents and teachers can do is yell do you know in au the govenmant is thinking of baning smacking what are parents and teachers to do if they can't do anything
 
The thread title made me laugh. For obvious reasons, I don't see how fighting in school ccan be a "good" thing.

As for my thoughts on it, I'm not interested. There's very little anyone can do about fighting amongst students during lunch breaks and such, and it happened relatively often in my last school. It became as often as homework, so I just began to brush it off as nothing big. Though if there was blood shed, I'd probably go for a glance or two. :p

I do find it to be childish though. Reacting with violence for self-defense, I can understand. More often than not, fights are usually started because they don't agree on something, regardless of how menial it was.

Laughable.
 
To me I find fights very entertaining. I don't think it's good though I just find it funny how people can resort to physical blows over something worthless like a Chick for example. I remember a fight commence right in front of me at my current school and it was like Dang. But regardless it's pointless. Normally the ones talking alot of crap are the ones getting beat up xD.
 
Laharl said:
To me I find fights very entertaining. I don't think it's good though I just find it funny how people can resort to physical blows over something worthless like a Chick for example. I remember a fight commence right in front of me at my current school and it was like Dang. But regardless it's pointless. Normally the ones talking alot of crap are the ones getting beat up xD.
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NEVER taunt the quiet people. (like Me) That will cut down people getting their --- beat up so much. o_O
 
Kids at school who purposefully get in fights should don't deserve to go to school (or to live in this country, for that matter). I pray for the day that teachers can use corporal punishment the asshole scum that populate my high school. That would prevent a few fights from happening, I think.
 
This is kinda funny because i just got in a fight at school. lol, but i didnt get in any trouble because the kid i got in a fight hit me first so i got off free, and by the way those two guys fight like girls
 
That's how it works, see? If they hit you first, it's automatically self defense, giving you the "right" to punch them back, I guess. It's not like they're going to give you the legal right to punch him in the face in court as retribution.

That would be funny, though.
 
Fighting in general is bad, fighting in school is just stupid. Generally tehre is nothing EVER worth fighting over in school, every fight I've seen at my school has started over something stupid. People just have a hard time letting things go now a days, and I have no idea why.

I personally avoid conflict as much as possible in and out of school, I hate fighting, but will in extreme cases. And just for the record, I've been doing martial arts for about a year now, and know some pretty lethal stuff, so if I really wanted to, I could kill somebody in a couple of quick hits. Yet, despite my possible crippiling abilities, I can't stand fighting, it's pointless, and never solves anything.
 
Its ok I beat the crap out of him anyways, and do you want to know what his ascues was for hitting me, it was becaused i looked at his girl, and you should of seen this " GIRl" as he calls her, She had a mustace and stuff i would never look at his girl, and i told him that to and then he tried to punch me again lol

Tenshi said:
I personally avoid conflict as much as possible in and out of school, I hate fighting, but will in extreme cases. And just for the record, I've been doing martial arts for about a year now, and know some pretty lethal stuff, so if I really wanted to, I could kill somebody in a couple of quick hits. Yet, despite my possible crippiling abilities, I can't stand fighting, it's pointless, and never solves anything.
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I always try to avoid fighting when i can, But the problem is IM the ONLY white person in my whole school, so most people dont like me
 
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That must Suck. My Girlfriend had the same problem xD well atleast in Middle school. She was like 1 outta like 5 white people in our whole school. And she's like nice but people would just mess with her because she was white. Got me sooo pissed but she told me it wasn't worth fighting over so i didn't but man if that went on for too long I was about to lose it. xD.
 
Laharl said:
That must Suck. My Girlfriend had the same problem xD well atleast in Middle school. She was like 1 outta like 5 white people in our whole school. And she's like nice but people would just mess with her because she was white. Got me sooo pissed but she told me it wasn't worth fighting over so i didn't but man if that went on for too long I was about to lose it. xD.
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Yea highschool is alot worst then it was in middle school. they really didnt start anything with me there but when i went to high school they gave me alot of crap, but i learned to stand up for my self... The thing that really makes them P.O. is when i drive out of the school parking lot ( First of all i have a really large Sound system in my car. And Second of all. Everyone ususlally stands out side for a while.) I BLARE and i mean Blare my Speakers to any country song thats on and man they hate that more then anything
 
Hmmmmmmmmm well in my primary school years i got into alot of fights with people but then when i went onto high school i got into a fight with 3 people just me agenst the 3 people and i got my ass kicked because i thought i could take them because i got into so many fights in primary ;) then the teachers said you can't get into any more fights! then my mum said that i should take up boxing, kick boxing or amture wrestling and i did. i took up kick boxing and amture wrestling for about 3 months. Havn't had a fight every since ;)
 
Star_Player said:
Hmmmmmmmmm well in my primary school years i got into alot of fights with people but then when i went onto high school i got into a fight with 3 people just me agenst the 3 people and i got my ass kicked because i thought i could take them because i got into so many fights in primary ;) then the teachers said you can't get into any more fights! then my mum said that i should take up boxing, kick boxing or amture wrestling and i did. i took up kick boxing and amture wrestling for about 3 months. Havn't had a fight every since ;)
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Taking up wrestling is how i learned to fight... Ive been wrestling for 11 Years now.. ( do the math im 16 now been wrestling for 11 years hmmmmm) And thats is how I got into MMA.
 
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