Isn't this against the games codes?

[Captain Squee]

I was fighting Ultimecia using my beloved Zidane, and she kept shooting me. HOWEVER whenever I blocked, it didn't even say defense crush, it just went through my block, hitting me anyway. It didn't even do the thing that knocks me back, She just keeps shooting me through my block. S after this, I try to dash through the shots, since I need to be close to hit here effectively. but it hits me anyway, although if I am not mistaken, you are supposed to go through the magic.

And now I'll just relive my anger and say, the battle goes like this...

Shoot> shoot> shoot> shoot> shoot> shoot> Break> Alexander> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> apacolypse> Get close> shoot> dodge> Shoot> give up its been a half hour

no joke, what a piss off

 

[Terra Branford]

Well, she does that to Terra and Buntz. The ones I've come across that Ulty can't easily break through, is Cloud, Garland and Jecht.

I think Ulty is suppose to be like that

EDIT:
Oh, and Ex-death is a poor choice between them all.

 

[KitesoKumoe]

ultimecia moves that cant be dashed through(both of them are charged attacks)

the others can easily be dashed through, and are possible to block, though youll have to keep mashing the block button

who youre using doesnt matter, this will always be the same.

 

[Terra Branford]

But its easier with the characters I said. I never said it wasn't possible.

 

[Captain Squee]

but even with mashit the R button, she breaks through, no matter the timing. I tried as Jecht, and she breaks throug his backhand thingy (cba to look at what its called), and yes I know it would only block a few, yet it blocks none. breaks through while any special block is still lasting.

And the damn Apacolypse spamming has got to stop, IT DIDNT HIT THE FIRST 20 TIMES, IT AINT GONNA WORK THE 21ST

 

[Fusionist]

I think Dissidia's graphics might have something to do with it...maybe.

Somehow Sephiroth with his overcompensating sword managed to slash my character even though there was A WALL BETWEEN THEM

 

[KitesoKumoe]

@Terra: Exdeath is the best character to use, you dont even need to mash a guard, you can just hold it =P

@squee: as I said, some of her moves are unblockable

@fusionist: some attacks have properties that allow them to go through walls

 

[Terra Branford]

@Terra: Exdeath is the best character to use, you dont even need to mash a guard, you can just hold it =P

I know, he's on my top 5.

I think Dissidia's graphics might have something to do with it...maybe.

Somehow Sephiroth with his overcompensating sword managed to slash my character even though there was A WALL BETWEEN THEM

I hate it when I'm like three miles away and all he has to do is jump, slash and then press it again and I get Aerith'd.

With hardier characters though, not slow of course, you should be able to beat Ulty fairly quickly.

Unless you have them equipped wrong.

 

[Captain Squee]

Well, thing is (it doesn't make much difference on what I'm complaining about, buuut...) It really angered me because I was doing inward chaos and I can't get close to her. I main Firion, Zidane, and Kuja, with these three this battle is annoying, and it drags on for half hour at a time.

With Firion, Since he is ground based the battle is Uber slow, and it's hard to get a good footing.

With Zidane, I have to get close to her first

And with Kuja, No way I could beat chaos with him XP so it would be pointless to try that...See my style with Kuja is to stay away and when the enemy comes to me, Flare star and/or sapphire star, and thats not an option on chaos's little battle place, although I reckon I sould TRY

 

[Ramiel]

There are 3 types of moves: Normal, Staggering and Guard Crushing.

Normal moves can be blocked by normal block and any moves with a Block ability, and they usually can be broken through by Staggering moves and Guard Crushing moves.

Staggering moves are special. They bypass normal guards - if the move is guarded, the one who is blocking will be left staggering (attacking him will result in Riposte activating). The staggering hit will not deal damage, but the attacker can still continue to the attack's next phase and any other attacks following the staggering hit will do damage. Jecht Block and High Guard CAN block these moves. (However, Jecht Block sometimes has difficulty blocking Multiple Hitting Magic Attacks like Fully Charged Knight's Sword)
Examples: Heel Crush, Lance Charge, 3rd hit of Round Edge, Radiant Sword, Blaze, 1st hit of Scintilla and Guilt, etc.

Guard Crush moves simply ignore guarding. It's that simple. They can only be blocked by Omni Guard, as long as they aren't Multiple Hitting Magic Attacks or attacks like Flood and Seraphic Star. Few BRV attacks have Guard Crush - Fully Charged Knight's Axe, Reel Axe, Reel Impulse, maybe others but idk. Most HP attacks have Guard Crush, but some are Staggering.

The Emperor's Thunder Crest and Starfall moves are also worth mentioning because they bypass EVERYTHING. As long as they fall on the enemy, it doesn't matter what the enemy is doing.



Ultimecia's Fully Charged Knight's Sword is really really slow. If you're close to her when she does it, just... jump over her, or if you have fast moves like Swift Attack, Hop Step or Jecht Rush/Stream, hit her before he has a chance of firing swords. It's a weak move due to its slowness.

Firion: Don't bother doing anything on Ulty's Castle.

Zidane: Dash in her face and Swift Attack her. She won't block, trust me.

Kuja: I'm not good with Kuja, but you should use the "Watch this!" move very often, and punish Knight's Arrow & Apocalypse with Ultima/Remote Flare.

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

Cloud of Darkness is your best character, next to Exdeath for dealing with Ultimecia's flurry attacks.

Her 'wrath' particle beam, unlike Firion's shield bash actually protects her and counters faster and from a greater range making it THE most effective brave counterattack. In fact, if I recall it staggers Ultimecia.

On another note, WoL's shield of light and ExDeath's delta attack can also block and counter Ultimecia's attacks.

 

[Ramiel]

Block>Counter moves aren't really necesarry for dealing with Ulty.
You just have to have a fast character with a fast attack, and dash towards her when she's doing nothing, and then use that fast attack. Humans usually counter this with Fully Charged Knight's Axe, but CPU Ulty will never really do that.

However, CoD really is a good choice for Ulty. Air Tentacles are fast enough to do the above tactic, Air 2 pwns, and her HP attacks just own her.

 

[KitesoKumoe]

if you really want to deal with ulti, just use Bartz and holy spam her while going right through all of her spells with slide hazard

what I find most fun though is using garland. If you have good enough time, youll just plow right th

CoD not really, since ulti can just dodge out of her spell before the beam hits her. Its a nice pressuring tool sure, but still not enough for her to ba an actual counter character unless the ulti fails at dodging

 

[Azazer]

If you learn the timing it's possible to block the entirety of Ultimecia's arrow attacks without suffering any negative effects (save blocking an additional time on accident and her lack of stun time). It is also possible, however, to use a well timed dash to cut through her attacks or use an attack of your own (with sufficient priority and protection) to strike her instead. As an example you could use Bartz's Stormshot (replacing this attack with Zidane's equivalent). Ultimecia's non-charge attacks have no special properties or note worthy traits beyond the extremely irritating Iai builds.

 

[Captain Squee]

from what I'm being told here, you all didn't realize something I said, so I'll explain whats goin on in fuller detail when I try blocking / doidging...

When I block ANYTHING she casts, usually when a block is broken, it sends the blocker back a bit if not hit, and some EX goes out in a circle, but this doesn't happen. In fact, no matter what, it sais block, but I'm still hit. And I'm hit by the very arrow that it sais I blocked (yes I watched carefully several times and I'm sure of it.) So this makes no sense, If I blocked it, I'm not supposed to be hit by it...

When dash it, I continuously lose brave althoug Im moving through the shots, now this is the funny part, cuz it doesn't actually hit me until she is done, and when her attack is finished, she still is in the shooting stance and I'm being hit by seemingly nothing not losing my brave but being sent back by a few...

And lastly when I dodge, It sais I successfully dodged, but while in the air, Im being hit by arrows while I dodge. Same deal as blocking basically. Is it a glitch or what?

and yet still even with these unfair advantages, she can't win. but beither can I. I decided to try as long as I lasted, and it was 2 hours before I turned it back off to give up...and the Apacolypse spamming needs to stop with her

 

[Rorolina Frixell]

Perhaps it's a trait of the Time Mage being able to pass most barriers, if not that I have no idea.

 

[KitesoKumoe]

well now, this seems to be a problem just with you, because nothing like that happens to me =P

mashing the block button always works for me

 

[KitesoKumoe]

tidus is not a counter pick to ultimecia

all of his dodge and ______ moves lack the invicibility frames for him to use them to counter her spells

and anyone that thinks that they can just charge throungh her spels will get arrowed(which will hit your back if you keep running) or charged knight's axed(which is unblockable)

 

[Captain Squee]

@tintin 666 thats only a little bit of :spam:

anyway, I cant use Tidus anyway, His style aint right for me, i got him to level 32 and stopped, couldnt take it anymore.

And I managed to do it, i beat inward chaos with Warrior of Light, I beat Ulti with spamming bitter end and Sheild of Light. but it still makes no sense. The EX didnt even release when that happened... but whats important is I did it

 

[calze6]

Just dodge ulti's attacks. There is no point in blocking as it doesn't punish them.