Indiana Jones

Mitsuki · May 26, 2008

So...what's all this about? I know the 4th movie just came out, and I really don't know if I want to see it or not...especially since I have never seen any of the previous movies. (Please tell me I'm not alone in this) >_<

But, I heard that the 4th one has...

aliens

in them...? A bit of a turn-off, but perhaps I'll go see it anyway.

Rockman X · May 27, 2008

I watched half of it last night, gonna watch the other half tonight. It's um...well, everyone knows how George Lucas ruined Star Wars with the new trilogy. He kinda killed Indy with this.

To enjoy this movie you will REALLY have to suspend your disbelief. Indy survives

a fucking NUCLEAR BLAST in a REFRIGERATOR.

Not kidding you.

He crawls inside, the nuclear blast wipes out the mock town he's in, his fridge is launched down a rocky hill smashing on everything, it finally comes to a stop and he comes out fine and dandy.

And yes, it has

aliens

in it. The acting is kinda halfassed too.

I could go on and on about it, but it's easier to watch Spoony's rants on it.

Kenny · May 27, 2008

That is retarded he survives a nuclear blast just by hiding in a refrigerator.

I wouldn't mind watching that movie some people say it is really good.

Mod Edit: Please remember to put spoilers next time. Thanks.

Rockman X · May 27, 2008

Viper said:
I wouldn't mind watching that movie some people say it is really good.

DON'T. For the love of god, stay away from this movie. I just finished watching this movie and I'm pissed at it. It's complete crap and totally bastardized the series.

George Lucas's dirty fingerprints are ALL OVER this movie too.

The aliens look like this species from Star Wars too.

He didn't even bother trying to be halfway original.

*fumes*

Seriously, to anyone who loved the Indy movies as a kid, avoid this movie like the plague. To anyone who hasn't seen the originals before, watch those and stay far away from this movie. It's like Lucas and Spielberg watched a marathon of Looney Tunes, then decided to turn them into a live action movie and throw Indy into it. You know how in cartoons you'll see someone bend a tree down to the ground, then let go so it smacks back into someone chasing them? They did that in this fucking movie.

The commies are chasing Indy and co. and crazy Marion drives over a cliff onto a tree that bends all the way down to the riverbed, then they drive off nonchalantly and the branch swings back and smacks the commies that were repelling down the cliff.

And it gets even MOAR unbelievable. Right after that they

go over THREE waterfalls and survive. The first two they land RIGHT SIDE UP in their jeep and the third is practically Niagra Falls sized and their jeep capsizes and they just walk away perfectly fine.

The only people who could possible enjoy this movie are those who've never seen the previous Indy movies or have the ability to suspend ALL disbelief. This movie is a fucking travesty and it should never EVER have been made. It's no wonder Sean Connery and several other actors turned down working in it after reading the script.

/rant

DKnight · May 27, 2008

I enjoyed it. probably because ithad the feeling of an Indiana Jones movie, just a tad bit more scifi. They kept to the same filming techniques as the other movies. and I think the only one that had mediocre acting in it was Harrison Ford. the others did pretty well IMO.

Gingerbread Lesbian · May 29, 2008

On a plus side to VR's rant the Fedora was cool. :neomon:

But yeah, he is spot on really. It doesn't feel like an Indy movie whatsoever, I think Shia Le Beouf had an awful role to play, he just reminded me of one of the guys from 'Grease', if anyone ever sees this film and Grease you'll know why (

He's in the middle of a fight and he'll go "STOP! Let me comb my hair")

...and I would love to know what the crack was with that

Tarzan scene when he's stuck in the tree so he 'swings' his way out of it

I think the thing that annoyed me the most is that it didn't seem to have definitive plot and it took the first 20/30mins to even get the slightest clue what the storyline was going to be about...CGI + Lucas + Indy = No go! Albeit, the film had its comedy moments (not in a good way).

I mean hell, we don't have to be scared of a

nuclear war anymore. POWER TO THE FRIDGES!!!!

Rockman X · May 29, 2008

Kairi said:
[/spoiler]...and I would love to know what the crack was with that

Tarzan scene when he's stuck in the tree so he 'swings' his way out of it

Oh god, that part was idiotic. It was like it turned into a frigging Disney movie. So all of a sudden

the friendly monkeys decide to teach him how to swing from vines and he catches up to two speeding vehicles?

Right. I know Indy movies have always been a little on the unrealistic side, but that's just plain corny.

I mean hell, we don't have to be scared of a

nuclear war anymore. POWER TO THE FRIDGES!!!!

We don't have to be scared of ANYTHING in that movie. One of the things about the old Indy movies is that there's always a looming sense of danger. But it seems like everyone is practically invincible in this movie. If someone can survive

a nuclear blast in a fridge AND casually stroll off after falling down three waterfalls

, it kinda makes you feel like you're watching Dragon Ball Z.

Scrutator · May 29, 2008

I'm one of those that compared to other films that have tried to copy Indy it was a good film in it's own right and there was something wonderfully nostalgic about seeing Ford playing Indy again. However compared to Raiders and Last Crusade and what I feel makes an Indy film it just wasn't on that level although I've still not fully decided if it was better or worse than ToD. Some people thought it was bad enough that they walked out the cinema which was funny.

My main problem is that you can see exactly what moments Lucas was directly involved with and I wish that he would just fuck off and take his ego with him. This film would have been made 15 years ago if it wasn't for him and I'm kinda dreading how this supposed Mutt Williams spinoff series he wants to do will fare (I say shit). Shia wasn't as bad as I feared although he isn't in any way a credible leading man (or actor for that matter) and lets be honest we want to see Indy not this Disney tool.

I have to say that me and my flatmate both shouted out loud at the end when they had the scene when

Indy takes his hat from Mutt which was just glorious to see

. I would have burnt down the cinema in pure nerd-rage if he put it on.

Rockman X · May 30, 2008

Scrutator said:
However compared to Raiders and Last Crusade and what I feel makes an Indy film it just wasn't on that level although I've still not fully decided if it was better or worse than ToD. Some people thought it was bad enough that they walked out the cinema which was funny.

Augh, what is with people hatin' on Temple of Doom? :gasp:

I rather enjoyed it. Granted, it had some pretty unrealistic moments

(crash landing on a mountain, then going off into a river in a raft; pulling the guy's beating heart out)

but it wasn't NEAR as ridiculous as Crystal Skulls, and it still had that looming sense of danger to it.

My main problem is that you can see exactly what moments Lucas was directly involved with and I wish that he would just fuck off and take his ego with him. This film would have been made 15 years ago if it wasn't for him and I'm kinda dreading how this supposed Mutt Williams spinoff series he wants to do will fare (I say shit).

You mean like

how that alien at the end looked almost identical to a species from Star Wars?

Lucas has been senile ever since he made The Phantom Menace, and tbqh I worry about anything Star Wars related he's planning to do, like that CGI series coming to TV...it just looks crap.

Shia wasn't as bad as I feared although he isn't in any way a credible leading man (or actor for that matter) and lets be honest we want to see Indy not this Disney tool.

Nah, Shia wasn't all that bad in it...really I don't mind the kid when he's kept in the type of movies he suits. He's not a versatile actor, all he can play is the awkward dorky teenager (I suppose that's to be expected since it was all he played on Disney for so long). He's fine in that type of role, like in iRobot or Disturbia...but he does not belong as Indy's sidekick. I miss Short Round, he was awesome. "Hey lady, you call him Doctah Jones!" He always put that singer bitch in her place :neomon:

Yanger · May 30, 2008

I love the Indiana Jones series. I saw the movie on tuesday. I thought it was funny but It could have a least been better than the others.

Scrutator · May 30, 2008

Prince Vegeta said:
Augh, what is with people hatin' on Temple of Doom? I rather enjoyed it. Granted, it had some pretty unrealistic moments

(crash landing on a mountain, then going off into a river in a raft; pulling the guy's beating heart out)

but it wasn't NEAR as ridiculous as Crystal Skulls, and it still had that looming sense of danger to it.

I liked ToD and don't entirely get the hate it usually receives from some but I wasn't a fan of the darker tone of the film and it had the most annoying heroine of the series, this was the other film where Lucas hadn't had his leash on tight enough at the time when it came to his input and it showed. The last 30/45 mins were awesome though. Overall the two films were good but both had several major flaws that just made them weak when compared to the other two.

Prince Vegeta said:
You mean like

how that alien at the end looked almost identical to a species from Star Wars?

Lucas has been senile ever since he made The Phantom Menace, and tbqh I worry about anything Star Wars related he's planning to do, like that CGI series coming to TV...it just looks crap.

I was more referring to certain scenes with CGI monkeys but the whole alien thing that was going on was out of place although I understand why they went with that.

As for Star Wars I've heard about this TV series that may be out within a couple of years. The CGI Clone Wars movie is out at the cinema this year. I don't have hope for either of them.

Prince Vegeta said:
Nah, Shia wasn't all that bad in it...really I don't mind the kid when he's kept in the type of movies he suits. He's not a versatile actor, all he can play is the awkward dorky teenager (I suppose that's to be expected since it was all he played on Disney for so long). He's fine in that type of role, like in iRobot or Disturbia...but he does not belong as Indy's sidekick. I miss Short Round, he was awesome. "Hey lady, you call him Doctah Jones!" He always put that singer bitch in her place

Short Round would have been awesome in this movie and would have been better than Shia anyday. I missed my Sallah fix as well. His other partners in this film were wasted imo, Ray Winstone's character served no real purpose other than to be a plot device and

Marion

appeared way too late in the movie to make that much of an impression.

Fusilli · May 30, 2008

Eh, I liked this film. Sure, it wasn't like a proper Indie film but overall I really enjoyed it. Some parts had me thinking 'whaaaaa?', particularly

the whole nuclear explosion shabang

, but I'll admit that I thought it was pretty cool to see even though it was just a *tad* far-fetched. Oh, and speaking of far-fetched,

the crystal skull/alien thing in general

was pretty ridiculous throughout I thought, most especially at the end which just left me with a " :huh:

" look on my face. BUT saying that, it was an enjoyable film and did have it's good moments, and I liked Cate Blanchett in it. Although I didn't really understand what the deal was with her and Indie, at some points they seemed to be working together but then at others they were trying to kill each other? Meh.

Rockman X · May 30, 2008

Scrutator said:
I was more referring to certain scenes with CGI monkeys but the whole alien thing that was going on was out of place although I understand why they went with that.

The monkeys were retarded, as were the groundhogs -__-

The ants I didn't actually mind, cept for that one part where they

climbed up into the air to reach Cate Blanchett.

It wasn't so much that the ants did that either (since there's one species of ants that will build structures with their bodies), but the CGI was just so poorly done it looked like an oozing blob. CGI is one thing, but when you make it look like a 10 year old Pixar film...not up to standards.

As for Star Wars I've heard about this TV series that may be out within a couple of years. The CGI Clone Wars movie is out at the cinema this year. I don't have hope for either of them.

Oh, the CGI one is a movie? I didn't pay enough attention to the commercial. I dunno why the hell he's even doing the Clone Wars again, he already had Genndy Tartakovsky do that cartoon series on it (which was actually damn good, anything he does is win).

Short Round would have been awesome in this movie and would have been better than Shia anyday. I missed my Sallah fix as well. His other partners in this film were wasted imo, Ray Winstone's character served no real purpose other than to be a plot device and

Marion

appeared way too late in the movie to make that much of an impression.

Ah, Sallah, how I enjoyed his character. Actually I enjoy any character John Rhys-Davies plays, the guy is awesome. I think the first thing I ever saw him in was The Lost World, he stood out so much since he was the only good actor in the film :wacky:

According to IMDb's FAQ's on the movie, Sallah wasn't in the movie because:

According to George Lucas the adventure does not see Jones go to the Middle East therefore Sallah isn't needed in this film.

I suppose Lucas had to think of some halfassed excuse after John turned down the role. And this just makes me weep:

George Lucas has revealed to FoxNews that there is more than a strong possibility that there will be a fifth "Indiana Jones" movie. Apparently, Steven Spielberg has left the door open for a sequel to "Indiana Jones 4."

"I haven't even told Steven or Harrison [Ford] this," he said. "But I have an idea to make Shia [LaBeouf] the lead character next time and have Harrison come back like Sean Connery did in the last movie. I can see it working out."

"And it's not like Harrison is even old. I mean, he's 65 and he did everything in this movie," Lucas continued. "The old chemistry is there, and it's not like he's an old man. He's incredibly agile; he looks even better than he did 20 years ago, if you ask me."

Takk · May 30, 2008

Don't go blaming Lucas... thats like become a bandwagon excuse for anything bad... remember, Steven Spielberg wanted to do it this way, too... and he has just as much background in Sci-Fi as Lucas does.

Karoleena · Jun 4, 2008

i just didn't like the fact that it had

aliens

in it x_x other than that i thought it was ok. i didn't like cate blachets accent...it didn't convince me lol. i agree that it was way far fetched but thats what made it funny lol.

Gaaramaster · Jun 4, 2008

Ok, guys this has been bugging me about how little you guys know.

The nuclear blast thing, if you paid attention, it was a refridgerator made with lead. They were made that way back then. Lead can survive a nuclear blast.

Also, it's George Lucas,

aliens and CGI is his thing

If Steven Speilberg wasn't working on it,

the movie would end up being Star Wars 7.

The only bad part was Shai Lawhatever, but he ruins everything he's in. The

aliens

was a pretty good thing, and not totally unbelieveable after they had things like Ark of the Covenant melting faces, the Holy Grail and a centuries old knight, and whatever the hell was going on in Temple of Doom. man that one sucked....

anyway,

the only problem with the plot was that he wasn't really being an archeologist. He was just helping the aliens get their head back. I mean, the other ones, he was looking for artifacts and stuff.

And Salleh is his friend in the middle east. He wasn't in Temple of Doom either, he's only been in the ones that have been in the middle east. That's why he isn't in this one.

Toxic Variations · Jun 4, 2008

Lucas - what the hell are you sucking on, man? Like Hell, Ford looks as good as he did twenty years ago. It's a sad fact but Harrison Ford is old and, in my eyes, he was too old to star as Indiana Jones again. I suppose it's selfish to think that way but I wanted to remember the character, of Indiana Jones, as young or at least middle aged. I don't want to see my heros old and grey headed. I really wish Crystal Skull hadn't been made! I sound like such a B right now, but it's the way I feel! The Last Crusade was a masterpiece, in my opinion, and I figured that was the last in the series.

The last scene,

with our hero riding into the sunset

, was absolutely perfect. It was an image that could really stay in our mind and was perfect farewell to that ' hero' . Well, Crystal Skull just wasn't half the movie and I keep thinking, all during it: I really wish I was watching something else and I felt, most of the time, sad! I hated seeing Indiana aged like that!

Despite all that, it was a decent movie, not wonderful but decent. I won't be bothered to buy or rent, of course, I didn't like the alien deal, AT ALL and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. Anyway, there's my rant.

Rockman X · Jun 4, 2008

Mr. Pink said:
Ok, guys this has been bugging me about how little you guys know.

The nuclear blast thing, if you paid attention, it was a refridgerator made with lead. They were made that way back then. Lead can survive a nuclear blast.

And that's all fine and dandy, I realize lead can withstand radiation. But you're forgetting something else very basic: if YOU had paid attention, you would have noticed that

everything in the room started to melt or catch on fire from the intense heat. That heat would have made the lead (i.e. metal) fridge extremely hot, and would have burnt Indy to a crisp.

Also, another thing you seemed to have overlooked is that

the fridge is launched a good mile or two and goes tumbling down a rocky hill. There are no dents in it at all, and when Indy gets out he's perfectly fine. Don't you think his internal organs would have suffered some trauma from all that, or perhaps he might have gotten a concussion?

And pleeeeease, if you're so knowledgeable about this movie, explain to me just HOW Indy and his friends

fall down THREE waterfalls and walk away from it perfectly fine, and the first two waterfalls they even managed to land right side up?

To me, that seems much more ridiculous than in Temple of Doom when Indy freefalls from a plane in a life boat, crash lands on a snowy mountain and rides off a cliff into a river.

Loveless said:
Lucas - what the hell are you sucking on, man? Like Hell, Ford looks as good as he did twenty years ago. It's a sad fact but Harrison Ford is old and, in my eyes, he was too old to star as Indiana Jones again. I suppose it's selfish to think that way but I wanted to remember the character, of Indiana Jones, as young or at least middle aged. I don't want to see my heros old and grey headed. I sound like such a B right now, but it's the way I feel! The Last Crusade was a masterpiece, in my opinion, and I figured that was the last in the series.

I dunno, I thought Ford himself did fine. Yeah he's a bit old, but given the timeline in the series he should be older. I think it was the script that was more of the problem. No matter how good of an actor you are, you can only put forth so much of your talent when the script you're given is utter garbage.

Toxic Variations · Jun 4, 2008

I dunno, I thought Ford himself did fine. Yeah he's a bit old, but given the timeline in the series he should be older. I think it was the script that was more of the problem. No matter how good of an actor you are, you can only put forth so much of your talent when the script you're given is utter garbage.

Oh yeah, I agree with you there. Ford is a fantastic actor and he does well, in pretty much everything he does. And yes, Indiana should be older given the timeline and when the movie was set. Maybe if there had been a better script, perhaps, I would've taken to it alot better. It was just, ugh, tough for me to watch at times! The movie had it's good and bad.

Scrutator · Jun 5, 2008

Mr. Pink said:
Ok, guys this has been bugging me about how little you guys know.

The nuclear blast thing, if you paid attention, it was a refridgerator made with lead. They were made that way back then. Lead can survive a nuclear blast.

Also, it's George Lucas,

aliens and CGI is his thing

If Steven Speilberg wasn't working on it,

the movie would end up being Star Wars 7.

The only bad part was Shai Lawhatever, but he ruins everything he's in. The

aliens

was a pretty good thing, and not totally unbelieveable after they had things like Ark of the Covenant melting faces, the Holy Grail and a centuries old knight, and whatever the hell was going on in Temple of Doom. man that one sucked....

anyway,

the only problem with the plot was that he wasn't really being an archeologist. He was just helping the aliens get their head back. I mean, the other ones, he was looking for artifacts and stuff.

And Salleh is his friend in the middle east. He wasn't in Temple of Doom either, he's only been in the ones that have been in the middle east. That's why he isn't in this one.

The problem with the aliens isn't because they are aliens just that Indy deals with the mythical and all that and moving in a more sci-fi direction just doesn't seem 100% right. You even admit that to an extent. But nuclear testing and aliens were big things back in that time so I can see how those influences came into the story, just having a tighter script/story would have made a big difference especially in the second half of the film.

We could pick holes in the film all you want but overall it was an enjoyable if flawed film (or at least to most). I personally felt better leaving the cinema than I did with the likes of Spider-Man 3, Pirates 3 or the new Star Wars films. Now those films did generally suck ass.

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