Guiding principles and values

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Do you have principles and values? Do they drive and govern what you can and cannot do, etc? Why do you have these values? Perhaps that's a little broad, but still, most of you should know what I mean.

Yes, I have principles and values. I value liberty, dignity, and understanding, but also overall wellbeing. If someone's in suffering who shouldn't be in suffering, and I can realistically do something about it, then I'll try to do it. I try to minimise suffering, and maximise overall harmony. Liberty can conflict with overall wellbeing, reason, and security, and thus a balance should be set between them. I believe in these things, because I make them matter, in my own mind.

For instance, a hard drug addict, who is suffering as a result of their habit, and in most cases, choice. Fallible, just like the rest of us. Whilst it is their choice, I think that they should be dealt with if they're at a significant risk of harming others, but also if they're at certain risk of killing themselves, and are still valuable contributors to society. It also infringes upon their dignity and wellbeing, but it depends whose fault it is in the first place. You could say that society itself is to blame, if they turn to drugs as an escape mechanism, or because they think that hard drugs won't harm them. Perhaps there are not enough jobs, or society does not protect its needy. Maybe the media sends out irresponsible, and misguiding messages. People should have positive, harmless and neutral liberties, but the more negative liberties must be dealt with, for the good of the individual and society in general. You could argue, that drug addiction is not liberty, at all, but an ironic enslavement to the will of the drug, even if the person chose to take the drug in the first place. It is contradictory. Drug addiction and violence is not liberty, and infringes upon the wellbeing of others.

As for my guiding principles, which tell me how to achieve and how not to achieve something, as according to my values and ethics, I try to take the least harmful, but also most realistic action. I would not contradict my values if I didn't have to, but if I could achieve something better in the long term, by going against one of my values in the long term, I would weigh my options up, and do what seemed most appropriate, and if neccessary, go against one or two values in the short term, for the greater good. Sometimes, you have to go against what you value most to achieve the bigger picture. So, it's very complicated.

What should be the principles and codes which determine actions and conduct, (if any, for some people)?

I hope I haven't confused anyone.
 
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They sound like morals at first, but I think I know what you mean now.

I value honesty, intelligence (which includes logic and rationality) and humbleness. I personally am of the opinion that there is almost nothing that you could not do with intelligence. And if there was something you could not do with intelligence, you could prove why you could not do it. I value honesty because it gets you into less trouble and makes things less complicated. I value humbleness because it makes you get along better with most people because then they won't hate you for being arrogant or egotistical, and it's harder for your ego to get in the way of your thinking.

I try to achieve things in such a way that the probability for success is high, and that there is little to lose. I would try not to hurt other people along the way, but only if I'm aware of it.
 
I honestly find it hard trying to be humble, and I can be quite deceptive if I have to. Honesty and loyalty are traits I value when it comes down to serious matters, but deception is an art and a means. So long as I use only neccessary deception in order to achieve a greater goal, I think it's acceptable.

As for your answer, Korytco, care to elaborate, please? That's very vague.
 
I believe being, loyal and caring are the main traits I adhere to. Because Leo said it best "the small act of caring has the potential to change a life around."
Although I'd rather be honest. I'm not, I close a lot of things off and when people annoy me I bite my lip. I never say how things are.
 
I don't know why, but being humble seems natural to me. Perhaps I don't see my ego as being particularly valuable, and arrogant people are normally as idiotic and annoying enough to make me not want to be like them.

I say, anti-models are just as effective as role-models.
 
Do you have principles and values? Do they drive and govern what you can and cannot do, etc? Why do you have these values? Perhaps that's a little broad, but still, most of you should know what I mean.

Yes I do. I'm sure most of us have many different values instilled in us due to various life experiences and what we learn from our elders. However, I would really say that experiencing hardships and various situations in your life really affects what choices you make and why you think the way you do (and therefore, why you do the things you do). So yes, I do believe that to a certain degree, my principles and values dictates what I do in life, although it is no easy feat.

But then again, despite the values that I honor, some of my actions counter that more often than I can care to admit. But that's only natural and part of the whole "learning from your mistakes" scenario. I guess my point is...despite all these principles that we value, it's so easy to be misguided anyway and sometimes, that's when some of give up on some of these values because...well, sorry to be blunt...but it makes some of us feel hypocritical in a way. >.> I know I've felt that way too many times in my life based on experiences, but I'm no longer afraid to admit it because I learned that it's easier to just accept your mistakes rather than ignoring it.

But what am I saying here? I'm rambling again. =/ Anyway, my values...yes, I value integrity, tranquility, accomplishment, benevolence, trust, and dignity. Of course, there's many more, but those are what I can think of at the moment. Those are extremely important in my life, but like I stated, they don't shine easily my way because of the choices I make sometimes. But will I ever let go of these values? Not if I can help it, and help myself to be a better person, I will. I am a good person overall, that much I can definitely say so about myself.

I'd like to elaborate more on the topics of values listed here, but I'll save that for some other time.




 
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I agree, what you value and think is acceptable is, for the most part, based on culture and upbringing. I do think that values can be changed, but it's not easy to change them once you've found a set of values which seem to work, and stuck with them for a long time.

To add a little, I'm not interested so much as to whether or not what I do in my daily life is right or wrong under my ethics and principles, I've noticed. I just prefer to stick to them, but it isn't a mortal blow to my conscience if I don't. I'm most concerned with which are the most efficient and best overall means to bring about ends, which might be personal, or for the overall good of society, but most often both. My long term goals are very ambitious, and very complicated.
 
I agree, what you value and think is acceptable is, for the most part, based on culture and upbringing. I do think that values can be changed, but it's not easy to change them once you've found a set of values which seem to work, and stuck with them for a long time.

Oh yeah, it can definitely change and people can do it at any point in their lives if they set their goals to it. The problem being is that it can sometimes be complicated as well, and some people don't always accomplish this task. It's so easy to say "these are my set of values and I'll do this and this and this in order to adhere to them." It's not that simple and sometimes I don't think some people realize that.

My long term goals are very ambitious, and very complicated.

So are mine, and again I shall raise my point that goals are just that - goals. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to reach it in order to succeed. Sometimes people view them as an inspiration and motivation in order to prevent them from...slacking. xD Because let's face it - it's too tempting to slack off sometimes, but by setting your goals and trying hard to stick to them, it motivates the mind to keep going even though achieving the ultimate goals may seem like an impossible task because you've set the goals way to high for you to even come close to reaching it.
 
Great post, but honestly it would take days upon days to fill this post I'm making up in order to throw my point of view out there.

Value: Well what you are born with and what you are force fed as a kid tends to what sticks around for a while, until experience either replaces it with something totally different or reinforces it to no end.

(Vere away if you are christian for a sec)
My parents are christians of course, so going to church was a regular thing for me as a kid, as well as all the values that they tried to instill in me. They gave me these values to give me an easier lifestyle in my opinion, and to be a ... an icon or image so that other people would praise them for my upbringing.

What I learned though are Christians have to lie sometimes in order to shelter their offsprings from hurt and pain, which is a tad bit absurd in my opinion. This is not a debate, so let me get to the point.. there comes a time in someones life where they have to live by experience, and put their values and beliefs to the test. When things like non natural deaths, suicides, and any other bad things come along, one has to have a rock to back against. (rock as in their belief structure)

(Vere back if you are a christian)

That is the day when I chose my beliefs, so to speak. I adopted some christian beliefs, but the rest I gained was a sort of selfless product. I viewed my friends with problems (whether it be drug or family problems) as people that needed an ear to rely on. I don't mean to sound cliche, but there is a difference between listening to someone out of the want that you might in turn tell them your problems (selfish reason)... and the otherside, where you just listen to them in order for them to vent/let it out/come to an understanding.. so they can get past their little mental wall they put up around them. Most of the crew I hang with now a days are doing pretty good in life, so not much complaints. It's definitely good to be able to get a few brews in us and watch a game, or just play some console games and sit around and chat it up. We've pulled eachother through many times through life.

The problem with people is trust has been lost because of their longtime friendships, relationships, or families break away from them. The boyfriend/girlfriend cheats on you and/or dumps you.. so you have lost trust in the opposite/same sex relationships. (healthy case of paranoia if you ask me) Your parents divorce.. I can't imagine how much of a mental tramatization this gives a kid in the back end of their brain, unless they can fully understand it. (which in most scenarios they don't).

Main Points:

1) So what does this give you? Self preservation and no trust in others. My values are.. give people a 2nd chance. If they screw up, don't shun them for the rest of your life.. just don't let them take advantage of you.

2) Keep in touch with old friends, you never know when you might need a helping hand.

3) Get ahead in life, but don't do it at other people's expense, even though often times it can not be helped. (double negative, I know).

4) Karma is very much alive.. no need to explain it.

5) Pay it forward.. If someone does something good for you blindly.. well pass that on..

6) Don't even remotely think for a second that you know everything there is to know in this world. You are not mr. know it all.

7) Don't stand on the fence, but as well listen to both sides of people stories.. and try to reason it. Don't jump to conclusions..

8) Last but not least.. Money is the root to all evil, don't let it stand in between you and your girl, you and your best friend, you and your family..
 
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