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SaguaroLunacy

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Is it me or is the music similar to certain tunes in 8 and 9?

I've played 8 and 9 a few times so I know all of the music by heart but I'm currently playing 7 and it's been 7 years since I've played it so I don't know the music that well but so far I have heard similar tunes in the tunnels that sound like some sort of mission music in 8 and I have heard music that sounds like music from Dali in 9...

Can someone please discuss or enlighten me?? :) Much appreciated!
 
Uematsu self plagiarizes a fair amount. I haven't noticed any big similarities in the stuff you mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me.

The biggest example of this I can give is this piece from V:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9beZJ7mOpo

And Kuja's theme and its' various variations from IX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci7-tOSkGrE&feature=related

Those two are basically variations on the same theme. Though, given that IX was the "flashback" game, that might have been intentional. Most of the other examples just use a few of the same musical phrases used in both songs. I'll listen to some of the music from those games and try to figure out what you might have noticed.
 
I wouldn’t call it plagiarism or self-plagiarism as a lot of it is intentional and he’ll often openly acknowledge the fact that some themes have stemmed from others. If he likes the sound of one track but would like to use a part of it and change it for another then he will. I don’t see anything wrong with it, as there are hundreds of Uematsu tracks which don’t sound alike. A few songs sounding similar aren’t too bad, so long as they sound good.

The ‘Intention of the Earth’ segment being reused for ‘Kuja’s theme’, for example, was deliberate according to something that I read once but cannot reproduce here. He liked the sound of the track in FFV but felt that it was relatively obscure in that game, and so he used that part of the track again in FFIX as Kuja’s theme, and then added to it to make it more fitting as a main theme.

I don’t see the similarity between the ‘FFIV Dungeon Theme’ and ‘Who Am I?’ myself. ‘Who Am I?’ is an eerie remix of the main FFVII theme tune and is not the same tune as the FFIV Dungeon Theme at all. It produces a similar eerie feeling, but not really the same melody. As for ‘Sword of Doubt’, there are similarities, but not all that much really. Not to my ears anyway. ‘Sword of Doubt’ also contains theme variants of the theme of Beatrix which is why some parts sound familiar, and if I recall correctly this is the music from the battle with her so that makes sense.

As for ‘Lurking in the Darkness’ and ‘Galbadia Garden’ they are similar themes but I wouldn’t say that they are copied from one another. They’re just both trying to portray a similar atmosphere, and both of them are really only background tracks as people pass through an area, and not main themes.

I’d agree that some themes are similar, but I wouldn’t call it laziness, as he does produce a lot of music. I’d call it self-appreciation and love of his own work, or perhaps the desire to go back on his old work and change and improve it to make certain themes sound even better, which in my opinion he did with ‘Intention of the Earth’ when he made ‘Kuja’s Theme’ out of it.
 
Some of them are quite similar. Only SOME. I think FF VIII is more known for it's soundtrack rather than plot in my opinion. FFVII was mostly midi type of music, but in VIII they actually left out the electronic sounds for the most of it.
 
The one track I noticed was the FFVIII boss battle theme borrowing a lot from the Bizarro Sephiroth battle theme.

I actually didn't really notice any more than that, so now I kind of wanna compare those and see what else sounds relatively close :wacky:
 
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