FF:SW the good things

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Now there seems to be a lot of SW haters out there. I understand why people may have gotten mad at the movie but I also dont see why they make such a big deal about it. The movie itself was great. You have wonderful CG for its time. A great cast of people playing the roles and for some reason Sin Spawn were flying around.

You need to look past the name and watch the movie for what it is. Its a story, a good story at that. Forget the name and just watch it.
 
They were Phantoms, not sin spaun :monster:

I agree the CG is good for it's time but in my opinion graphics doesn't make things great. More pleasing to the eye but not necessarily something you would want to re-watch. I did like the story somewhat, I just don't know why they called it final fantasy when there was no final fantasy element there, ie: no magic.
 
No your right and in the other topic of the area I said that the flying Phantom machines looked like Sin Spawn. I've watched the movie quite a few times I know what everything is.

It got a Final Fantasy name because Square at the time made the movie. They wanted it that way. And sure it didn't have magic, but you had the monsters, you had the issue that could ultimately destroy the world.

It may not have had magic, or swords but it did have a slight FF feel to it. People are pissed cause of the name. I bet that with a different name people would have thought differently.
 
Yes but unless I am mistaken final fantasy does not have storyline focus and history with only one character. SW had this, a real let down when people look at the games.
 
The games are how long... 50+ hours in some cases?

The movie was what... 2 if that? You can't expect them to fill in 50 hours of gameplay into 2 hours of movie. Its just not possible.

Spirits Within is not a video game so I don't understand how people can compare the two.

But in all honesty there was some character development. You didn't only see through the eyes of Aki(sp?) either. You got to see through the General's point of view. You got to see Aki's interaction with Gray(Grey) and his troop. It wasn't just simple "Hello how are you" interaction either. There was a deeper interaction there, but unless you paid close attention you probably missed it.

As for magic... the world doesn't begin and end with magic. When I play FF games I don't use magic most of the time anyway. Every FF game is different, that is why the movie would obviously be different too, but different is not bad. In fact it is sometimes good.

Still this isn't a topic as to why you didn't like the movie. Its a topic about what was good about it, what aspects you actually liked.
 
I am aware of the time slot the movie covered and I wasn't saying the movie should have been 40+ hours long. That would be stupid. Franctly it seems like they tried to put in Halo elements and put final fantasy on the cover. Thet movie only uses guns and explosives etc which I would expect to see in a halo game, not an ff game. And as for magic, it is a key component in any ff game, even if you don't use it in battle there are many things storyline-wise in ff games which have magical roots.
 
I, for one, loved this movie. I see no reason why it should NOT be a Final Fantasy title, though other people don't see it that way because it's 'too much sci-fi, too little fantasy'.

I see no reason why Sci Fi and Fantasy can't coincide. Also, as for a lack of magic, I don't give a flip... Magic is overused anyways... That's like someone saying Final Fantasy can't be a Fantasy title because there are no elves. An overused element doth not a genre make.

If you hate it because it has the title 'Final Fantasy', then watch it as just 'The Spirits Within'.

edit: Oh, and also, FFVII did not have magic within the roots of the plot, though it is usable, and had quite a bit of Sci fi, why don't you all hate that too? xP
 
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Well you know... your entitled to that opinion. But your still off topic here. It isn't why Final Fantasy The Spirits Within sucked. Its actually entitled "FF:SW the good things."

And for all the praise FFVII:AC got, on Rottentomatoes.com FFVII:AC barely got a higher score than FF:SW. So I don't see how the reactions can be so drastically different.
 
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I, for one, loved this movie. I see no reason why it should NOT be a Final Fantasy title, though other people don't see it that way because it's 'too much sci-fi, too little fantasy'.

I see no reason why Sci Fi and Fantasy can't coincide. Also, as for a lack of magic, I don't give a flip... Magic is overused anyways... That's like someone saying Final Fantasy can't be a Fantasy title because there are no elves. An overused element doth not a genre make.

If you hate it because it has the title 'Final Fantasy', then watch it as just 'The Spirits Within'.

edit: Oh, and also, FFVII did not have magic within the roots of the plot, though it is usable, and had quite a bit of Sci fi, why don't you all hate that too? xP
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I do hate Advent Children. SW has a decent plot and the visuals are very good. The movie isn't a masterpiece, but it's really underrated because of the name it has slapped on the cover.
 
I did like the action supplied and the storyline to a degree, I didn't hate it but it wasn't as great as I originally percieved. I did like most of the battles and escape scenes as well, for a CGI of it's time it was great.
 
It's because of the FFVII-tards that think anything FFVII is the be-all, end-all...

I can't see why people like AC better than SW, except for the obvious fan service and bishounen... Really they are both the same, except AC has a not-so-great story, bishies, a bit of magic, and slightly better graphics (due to when it came out, so you can't really count that as a plus, lest you are retarded and don't appreciate the past leading to the future).

I loved the story of SW. The only regret I have was that the characters were pretty serious and static, but, then again, it was a serious movie, and it's not like they had COMPLETELY mastered the art of CG animation.
 
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Yeah, it was a military film IMO, it is a shame that the characters weren't as individual as characters are in the ff games, though as far the the graphics and story is concerned it is okay, the characters and various other things (stated in previous posts) it is a good film. Especially when they are trying to drive through a collapsing city(?) or something.
 
I thought it was a great sci-fi movie. I liked the characters and the plot was great.
I don't understand if people don't like it because it wasn't like the games. Surely the whole "spirit lifestream" thing was a main part of both FFVII and FFIX. And if that's not good enough for you, then just ignore the "Final Fantasy" in the title. It's still a good film.

While I liked AC, I enjoyed SW a lot more. It's mainly because I prefer films with plots I can follow rather than lots of fight scenes. And AC is all about the fight scenes, with a plot that isn't exactly impressive.
 
I think that The Spirits Within was a great stand alone sci-fi/fantasy movie.. you just can't look at it as a Final Fantasy movie, because it's really not, In my humble opinion.. but it really is a gorgeous movie to watch, with some really strong characters in it.
 
Eh, it was an alright movie, not very Final-Fantasyish, but still an alright movie.

I loved the idea of collecting the spirits, especially the one with the little girl, and the bird. :3 but still, there were no melee weapons, magic, jobs/types..... Not Final Fantasyish at all. Y_Y
 
*hehe i suppose you guys are right,even thou most of the final fantasy fans got so disappointed in the movie there are good points of the movie :)...i hope :D hehe

*well theres the good graphics of the movie,yes,the entire movie actually looks like an fmv from a FF game.

*something deifferent :) well its a little bit different concept from the final fantasy games,its like a new adventure :)

*romantic??? :D i guess the chicks got goose bumps from the romantic scenes of aki and that guy :D


*another good thing would be itd be a perfect movie for watching with your girlfriend,you dont have to watch it and just concentrate on her :D hahaha

*weeeeeeee :D
 
When TSW first came out I was fairly young, in that post FFVII teenage-hood stage, 14 round abouts. I loved it, again because of the eco-warrior, gaia, earth spirit theme.

While I was disappointed that they didn't push the Gaia bit more I really did like the fact that they portrayed it as a minority belief. What I mean when I say that is that Cid was given a hard time when he tried to publish his research to a staunch community who wouldn't have any of it.

In the end his belief of the Earth Spirit, life force, Mako energy whatever you want to call it, was proven to be correct and he was happy enough with that.

Also the final scene was fantastic, showing that the planet's life went on, showing the strength of spirit that was undefeated by such a malicious intruder.

It also links us to our environment, our spirits coming from the planet and then returning to it after death. I realise this isn't a new concept and was basically the main plot line of VII but it does build on that idea.

On top of all of that I do believe that TSW deserves the Final Fantasy title. Why? Well it had a "Cid" after all! :p
 
The great thing about FF games (or in this case movie(s)) Is that it's always open to new ideas, yeah, they missed the mark by quite a large margin, but still... the graphics were good..?
 
- Graphics pwn AC's
- Though it may not be final fantasyesque really, it was still a damn good movie, storyline, action.
 
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