Crimes all over the World

[KR Skull]

we hear and see it everyday: in TV, radio, and newspaper. on our way to work,

school, park, and when we walk in the street.

social behaviour, domestic violence, Drugs and crime, Homophobic crime, Film and

music piracy, Religious hate crime, Mugging and assault, Gun crime, Racial hate

crime, Rape and sexual assault

these are the crimes that we hear about everyday.

diffrent crimes share the same motives

fame, money, hate, power, and distracting.

for most people crime is a sport, and for some it is just a story.

 

[Soul Saver]

different crimes share the same motives

fame, money, hate, power, and distracting.

for most people crime is a sport, and for some it is just a story.

It isn't as simple as that, there are many motives and root causes of crimes. Crimes are essentially acts which are illegal, and break the laws in question, wherever a particular act might be performed.
Not all crimes are "bad", either... the law does not equal justice, it can only fit in so much with a particular group's ideas of right and wrong, and maintain order. There are also victimless crimes, which are only crimes because society feels some sort of obligation to intrude in on people's private lives. So, I think what you mean is why do people commit crimes and acts which harm others in some way or another?

There are various motives, justified by subjective views or not, which cause people to perform such acts. One might be money/goods/services - out of greed or just plain need and desperation, etc.- gaining resources at the expense of other people or organisations, in whichever way, whether it's killing someone for an inheritance, or stealing a can of baked beans from a supermarket.
Another might be killing a individual because of personal feelings, just simply because an individual doesn't like another person whatever their "reason", and desires to end their life. That is normally barbaric, though revenge could also be a reason. I wouldn't like someone very much if they killed someone dear to me on purpose, and I'd think that killing an innocent person would be sufficient justification to declare "war" on the original murderer(s).

Anyhow, crime and "justice" are very complex moral minefields, as the revenge paradox shows.

 

[Donald Trump]

Sorry to say it...but this is more of a lecture (albeit it's fairly well known) rather than a debate

What are we supposed to be debating here exactly?

My thoughts exactly, but it is your fault, as you were asking him if he had any debates to start

I don't see how crime is a sport. I'm not the most law abiding person, but I don't go around competing with other people to see who can be the most 'criminferious'.

crime will exist as long as we have laws. Not having laws, is by definition anarchy. Acts previously thought to be criminal would then be legal. Say someone pissed me off, it would be okay(legally) for me to then smash that person's face in. However this isn't about anarchy, it's a pointless thread in which you tell us that crime exists
I know, unbelievable right?

 

[Gingerbread Lesbian]

My thoughts exactly, but it is your fault, as you were asking him if he had any debates to start

I didn't think he would do it...or at least he would debate something normal

I agree with Fry though, committing crimes isn't exactly a sport...unless you are some sort of chav people generally have a motive behind doing something, even then it's just wrong to go out and delibaretly commit a crime.

I think you could cross a lot of the motives off about fame, money and power as I haven't really heard of many crimes with those reasons behind it, a lot of crime such as murder, domestic violence, racism etc just come from hatred towards another person or group of people.

 

[KR Skull]

I don't see how crime is a sport.

Mercurial
I agree with Fry though, committing crimes isn't exactly a sport. I think you could cross a lot of the motives off about fame, money and power as I haven't really heard of many crimes with those reasons behind it

i think that the Serial Killer's says that it is a sport to them.
and about fame and power well you hear a lot of gang fights.
thay kill someone becuse he entered there territory. thay kill other gangs to expaned there territory. as for money the war in iraq is the great example.

 

[Rockman X]

i think that the Serial Killer's says that it is a sport to them.
and about fame and power well you hear a lot of gang fights.
thay kill someone becuse he entered there territory. thay kill other gangs to expaned there territory. as for money the war in iraq is the great example.

You fail to take into account that alot of criminals have mental problems. And it's not really considered a sport by most. They don't go out with a rifles and hunt people like they would deer. Alot of crime is motivated by poverty. People can't afford the things they need, therefore they steal, sell drugs, and kill if they're particularly desperate.

Also, if the Iraq war was about money, the US economy wouldn't be nearing a recession right now. Well actually it is kinda about money, but it's not about helping the American people, it's about lining the pockets of weapons manufacturers and unscrupulous politicians.

 

[Soul Saver]

You fail to take into account that alot of criminals have mental problems. And it's not really considered a sport by most. They don't go out with a rifles and hunt people like they would deer. Alot of crime is motivated by poverty. People can't afford the things they need, therefore they steal, sell drugs, and kill if they're particularly desperate.

Also, if the Iraq war was about money, the US economy wouldn't be nearing a recession right now. Well actually it is kinda about money, but it's not about helping the American people, it's about lining the pockets of weapons manufacturers and unscrupulous politicians.

Agreed. There are so many complex factors.

And as for the Iraq War, it may have helped the US economy had alot of other factors not been in motion. Obviously, any economic goals were not achieved as the price of oil is rising and a western recession seems iminent, but one can't rule out that the real reasons for the war were economic, as there was apparently alot of concern about the Iraqi oil supply and the petrodollar. Anyhow, there are several theories as to what really motivated the Bush-Blair administrations to invade Iraq. Whilst I personally consider critical economic reasons sufficient justification to go to war, it's not desirable, it just has to be done to protect the economy and stability.

War isn't about some question of who's right on a moral basis, but whose might is right. It always has been one great power struggle.

 

[KR Skull]

ok then if the iraq war isn't about money then tell me why did Saddam Hussein ordered his men to burn some oil factories after the enmey entered iraq?

 

[Donald Trump]

Obviously because Saddam didn't want them to have the oil.

Like VR said, serial killers aren't exactly poter boys for sanity are they?
Therefore they can be discounted.
As can Gangs, who like bloods or the crips are just stupid. They kill because they have been socially conditioned to think that 'any body claiming the wrong set should be shot g'

Also war isn't murder. One of the consequences of the US invasion of Iraq is that Saddam isn't murdering civilians at will.
Arguably the trouble that we are seeing in Iraq would have occured after Saddam's secular government was overthrown, regardless of who by. Shia and Sunni muslims would have had a civil war to see who gains control of Iraq.

Love is also a motive for murder. Also a lot of crimes are not premeditated, they are impulsive acts.

 

[KR Skull]

love is a two edged weapon. it can fix or destroy. it can not be controled. but it can control you. that is the most dangerous thing that a person can fall in.