Help Beating Adel! Soo Difficult - I had to go online. Thoughts?

[SammyJankis]

Basically I was unable to beat Adel in Final Fantasy VIII for so long and I went on these forums, specifically on the archive thread:

http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/f...-can-t-defeat-sorceress-adel-12052-page2.html

I then looked elsewhere online. I have my guys at level 25 and Squall at level 41. The game there does not allow you to leave the place and get experience to build up your guys. Basically, Rinoa is held by Adel (who looks like a man but isn't) and if you use your GF, you'll hurt her.

So it's basically a constant balancing act of attacking, protecting your guys AND Rinoa - before Adel uses his Ultima and kills everyone in one hit.

I played like 20 times, constantly losing. I read so many strategies: some leaving and starting over, then I had to learn about limit breaks. I don't know too much about the elementals so I tried to learn it, but it's complicated. I have no idea how the card games work and I'm sure I'm missing out. I have like 25 Curagras, Cerabus, one Aura Stone, 4 Meltdowns, and 8 "Heros".

Nobody mentioned using Hero - which basically makes you invincible for a limited time - also against Ultimas. One time, I used all of them and balanced attacking, using GFs/curing Rinoa, and still couldn't win.

Apparently, Adel has 35,000 HP, and my Rinoa has 8,000 HP. Adel will always absorb life out of Rinoa (probably around 700 HP) so maybe placing a Shell on Rinoa will cut that in half.

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So this is how I FINALLY beat Adel, without having to use a previous save like 10 hours behind (so frustrating).

I didn't have any Auras for Magic (I have no idea how people build up all the levels, grab all the Magics, and Items)... I had one Aura Stone.


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Party: Squall / Zell / Selphie. Each had about 1800-2500 HP.

Everytime the fight starts, Adel uses a Meteor, which can almost kill my Zell or at random may keep him at around 1000. I was so happy to beat Adel here by fluke I think.

1) Selphie: Cerabus - use this so that your guys can have Triple the magic hits (triple curagra, triple meltdown etc). It takes a while for that to happen.

-- Adel hits his Meteor and almost drains everyone --

2) Squall: use Meltdown - this makes Adel's defenses weak as he turns purple

3) Zell: use Aura Stone. This makes Zell more likely to use Limit break for a limited time - in my situation - 3 times.


Zell's LIMIT BREAK: first one was 9 seconds. So basically, you can attack as many times as you can as long as you do the moves when prompted. By going EXTREMELY fast alternating between CIRCLE + SQUARE & RIGHT then LEFT, you can hit Adel a LOT. I did it so fast so that every .1-.2 seconds I was hitting Adel. So in a 9 second limit break, you can hit Adel as much as 30 times (each hitting 250-500 HP). That's A LOT.

-- After the first one, I'm worried about what Adel will do next on his attaacks - he can kill all my guys --

Adel absorbs life out of Rinoa, then attacks Selphie LUCKILY. Selphie was still summoning Cerabus so the life went out of Cerabus, not Selphie.

-- Squall's time: what shall I do? I used Quezesteol (sp?) - Yes, this could kill Rinoa because it's so powerful, but what the hey, i'll heel rinoa if I can. - summoning.

ZELL LIMIT BREAK TWO: Everyone is on the verge of dying due to Adel's ULTIMA, but I used his limit break again (from the Aura Stone that hadn't worn off). This time I was given ELEVEN SECONDS to go crazy. Hitting him one after another. Took about 10,000 HP and it doesn't hurt Rinoa - ONLY Adel. Very successful!

- Squall's GF hits Rinoa AND Adel. I might have to Shell Rinoa. Took like 4000 each. Rinoa goes "arrrr".

- Cerabus is then used. I think I then used Selphie to put a Hero on Zell to make him temporarily invincible and to survive the Ultima (that would kill EVERYONE in one hit). I used Squall with the Triple to heal Rinoa 3 times with Curagra - this would put her life full again.

ZELL HAS ANOTHER LIMIT BREAK. Very lucky here. 8 seconds. (the limit breaks alternate between 4, 8, 12 seconds for me). I hit him ever .2-.3 seconds using the same CIRCLE/SQUARE and RIGHT/LEFT. You have to really work fast in order to hit.

By the end of the third limit break I must have taken like 6-7 thousand HP out of Adel and he DIED!

ALL BEFORE the first Ultima! I don't think I can do that ever again. It all depended on luck, speed, and having the Aura Stone.

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Everyone goes into the bosses with different GFs, Levels, Items, Magics, Junctioning - so everyone has different strategies. But it was almost impossible to beat this guy. FFVIII were kinda asses for not letting us gain experience in that time.
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A lesson learned. Very important to draw magic from bosses/enemies, and build up your level for stronger bosses. I have read on here and everywhere else that the rest of the game will get more difficult

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If anyone would like to share their strategies on how to beat Adel (with low levels lke mine) please feel free to share. I have read tons of people being stuck on this boss and there will be more people looking for threads like this - I GUARANTEE IT!

How's that for a first post, lol?

 

[Ohri-Jin]

im sorry I couldnt beat her either and my characters were at lvl 70-80, this was the reason why I never finished FF8, she transforms about third times, after many times of trying I finally got to her last tranforming stage and BAM!!!!!! my ps2 froze up on me

I was mad as hell and never played the game AGAIN lmfao

 

[Bambi]

im sorry I couldnt beat her either and my characters were at lvl 70-80, this was the reason why I never finished FF8, she transforms about third times, after many times of trying I finally got to her last tranforming stage and BAM!!!!!! my ps2 froze up on me

I was mad as hell and never played the game AGAIN lmfao

Isn't that Ultimecia...?

Anyway, at the OP, I dont think it helped that Squall was like 20 levels higher than the others, that would mean Adels level would be relative to HIS I think, so your other 2 characters would be too weak. Not that it really matters WHAT level you are if you junction correctly

I know I struggled first time round, but since then, Ive just hacked away at her and healed Rinoa as necessary, using scan to keep an eye on her health as I DO like to puch my luck and may accidentally end up killing her

Im not a magic user or one forusing GF's much, at most I'd use Cerberus for triple and Doomtrain for the meltdown effect on Adel (followed by an instant heal to Rinoa seeing as it would harm her as well) And then Im good to go, to just hack away with physical attacks/limits and keeping on top of Rinoas health

Though, I am normally pretty much maxed by then, but I dont think that makes a blind bit of difference so long as you junction your shit right anyway

 

[Ohri-Jin]

oh you are right Bambi, it was ultimecia I was talking about, my bad
Adel ? I cant seem to remember having a hard time with her...

 

[The_Enemy]

best way (though maybe hard & boring) is to solo with squall the island closet to hell, having junctioned vit, str, hp & spr bonus, till he goes 100. do not forget to refine some good magic to junction to stats. at the same time collect the forbidden magic from the island as well as auras, full lifes till you have 100. do the same with zell and irvine. then go get bahamut and eden from ultima weapon (as u will have 255 vitality, u will not take more than 500 dmg...even ultimecia's apocalipse made me lose less than 450). Then there will be no way to lose no matter hard you try xD...

if your problem is just adel, just try to raise Irvine's HP and str (full life & ultima, + character abilities like str+60%), cast aura on him with squall, and adel will be history in no time... (Use Irvine's pulse ammo, that the best and damages single opponent, so rinoa is safe )


//DO NOT LEVEL YOUR CHARACTERS(or as little as possible) UNTIL YOU GET RAGNAROK(so you can make the most of the stat bonus that GF provide)
even before that, slay as many cactuar as you can(u know the reason apparently )

 

[blakstang98]

It's surprising to me that you didn't know about Limit Breaks by the time you made it to Adel.

With levels like 41 and 25 for your whole party, this is generally what I have at this point as well, give or take. I'd say your Junctions aren't good. If you have proper Magic Junctioned to your basic stats, then Adel will fall fairly easily.

My favorite setup looks like this:

HP: 100 Flare
Str: 100 Meteor
Vit: 100 Meltdown
Mag: 100 Holy
Spr: 100 Reflect
Spd: 100 Haste
Eva: 100 Tornado
Hit%: 100 Triple
Luck: 100 Aura

You can use 100 Ultima in just about any category and it will be higher than the Magics I used (I use my 100 Ultima for 100% Elem Def ). 100 Triple can be used for Str and Mag as well (for Squall I use it for those, as his Hit% is max by default, same with Selphie with her Strange Vision weapon). I would understand if you didn't have 300 Ultima, Triple or Aura at this point in the game. I get my Ultima from Ultima Weapon, Triple from Odin and Aura from Seifer in his last battle, but everything else you should be able to encounter from normal enemies (some are uncommon though).

 

[SammyJankis]

blakstang, i dont know how you guys get so many magic. i mean 100 for all of that? i mean, I had to steal so many curas from this enemy that was weak and I thought I was being greedy lol.

How you guys stock up on all of that is crazy.

I beat Adel on my like 25th try with Zell using Limit Break (hitting like 30 times in 10 seconds, going very fast) otherwise Adel would kill all with an Ultima. The only way to protect against Ultima for my guys is using the Item "Hero".

I don't have any triples. I only have 4 meltdowns and ZERO auras. Where do you guys get Auras? I had to use an Aura Stone on Zell (the one stone that I had) to kill Adel.

I dont know how to use Cards and I dont have Ragurok (sp?).

I don't completely understand the junctions. I didn't even know the seed levels can increase from using the "tests" until like 4th disc, lol.

I'm happy I beat Adel, but I just wanted to vent. You guys know way more than me about junctioning, drawing, limit breaks, etc. I wouldn't have used the Aura Stone/Limit Break if I didn't use the Internet for help. I probably wouldn't have gotten the Hero (by killing a guy I used an item for). After reading the net, I also had to try many times to no avail. The limit break saved everything.

I dont think I have the Ultima weapon.

Adel was very frustrating because they wouldn't let you build experience or leave the place. But I'm reading that if you build your guys up many levels, his HP also increases... It was almost impossible to beat him. I lucked out by getting three consecutive Zell Limit Breaks (which took out 36,000+ HP in three shots) add a Quezetecol (which almost killed Rinoa). Very lucky.

I read it gets much harder..

How do you guys build your magic so much? Do you guys spend a lot of time roaming around, fighting, and drawing? I'm up to around 31 hours at the Adel point.

Should I build up all my characters levels? Also, should i spend a lot of time drawing? I just want to beat this game.. haha

 

[Sora_lion_heart]

sorry so sloopy

To get 100 auras you can use Tool-RF and use either power wrists or Hypno crowns. You can buy both at the Esther pet shop. Meltdowns are easy and I remember I got mine from some enemy near esthar in the snowy regions. Ultimas are the hardest. I got mine from energy crystals when Elvote (sp?) was refightable in esthar. So pretty much when you get to Esthar you can get the best stuff.

 

[SammyJankis]

i didn't have much money. i should go back to esther. but i just beat adel. not sure if i could... damn. i needed those auras.. i dont know what tool rf is;..

i look at your sig.. you haven't beaten ff III and XI according to that..

i only beat vii and haven't attempted the rest..

thanks for the tips..

 

[Gabranth]

All I did for the majority of the bosses was Aura and Renzokuken. I junctioned everything good to him and I won almost everytime. You could use Zell as well, but that takes effort...
I equipped the Revolver Gunblade for this fight and used Renzokuken to defeat Adel.

 

[blakstang98]

blakstang, i dont know how you guys get so many magic. i mean 100 for all of that? i mean, I had to steal so many curas from this enemy that was weak and I thought I was being greedy lol.

How you guys stock up on all of that is crazy.

Draw, draw and more draw. I draw out pretty much everything. I'll list where and what enemies I draw the magics from.
Flare: Ruby Dragon (Island Closest to Hell or the forest in the south on the Centra continent (I forget the name of it though)) or Behemoth (Esthar continent after the Lunar Cry)
Meteor: Ruby Dragon
Meltdown: Gayla (Trabia area)
Holy: Elnoyle (Esthar City after Lunar Cry)
Reflect: Adamantoise (on beaches near Dollet) (also a good for Shell and Protects )
Haste: Iron Giant (Esthar after Lunar Cry), Cactuar (Cactuar Island), and I'm sure there are plenty of others too
Tornado: Behemoth or Thrustavis (outside Deling City or Tomb of the Unknown King)
Triple: Odin (Centra Ruins) there is a time limit though, try to boost Mag really high, then you'll be able to draw out 9 at a time, then you have to make sure to beat him before time ends.
Aura: Seifer (last battle in Lunatic Pandora) or Blue Dragon (Island Closest to Hell)

I dont know how to use Cards and I dont have Ragurok (sp?).

On disc 4, before entering Ultimecia's castle, when walking on the chain, you'll see 3 portals next to you, jump into 1 of them to get back to the world map. The Ragnarok is in a desert in the south on the Centra continent near Cactuar Island. Find the portal that takes you close and you can get there by chocobo (maybe by foot too, I don't recall), then you'll have that back. At this point, I wouldn't worry about cards, I think a lot of them might not be acquirable at this point.

I don't completely understand the junctions. I didn't even know the seed levels can increase from using the "tests" until like 4th disc, lol.

The junction system is hard to understand in general, it took me a while to really have a grasp on it as well. To explain it simply, imagine you have 100 of every possible magic. Now each individual magic junctions with each stat differently. For instance, Meteor will increase Str quite a bit, while Fire won't. But Reflect will increase Spr more than Meteor, even though Meteor does better for Spr than Reflect. Now when you decrease the number of magics, it will decrease the stat gain proportionally. So 100 Reflect may help Str more than 5 Meteors. So it basically comes down to the magic for the certain stat, then it comes down to how many you have of that magic. Naturally the more you have, the more the increase (a magic will never decrease a stat).

I dont think I have the Ultima weapon.

Oh sorry, Ultima Weapon is an enemy, an optional boss found in the Deep Sea Research Center, not a weapon.


I read it gets much harder..

How do you guys build your magic so much? Do you guys spend a lot of time roaming around, fighting, and drawing? I'm up to around 31 hours at the Adel point.

Should I build up all my characters levels? Also, should i spend a lot of time drawing? I just want to beat this game.. haha[/quote]
I do some roaming around when I'm leveling up, but then again I go to the Islands Closest to Heaven and Hell. Leveling isn't necessary, it's actually possible to keep your levels low and to some it's easier. The enemies in this game level with your party, so if your party's level is 30, the enemies are too, except on Islands Closest to Heaven and Hell, where the enemies are all at level 100. Taking the time to draw certainly doesn't hurt. Seeing as a party is always of 3, you can draw out 300 magics, then switch junctions if you change the party to put the magic on an active party member.

 

[Sora_lion_heart]

some more news

i didn't have much money. i should go back to esther. but i just beat adel. not sure if i could... damn. i needed those auras.. i dont know what tool rf is;..

i look at your sig.. you haven't beaten ff III and XI according to that..

i only beat vii and haven't attempted the rest..

thanks for the tips..

I've played XI but its an mmorpg so there isn't really any beating it. Plus I've only played III on my friends DS and have never owned one myself.

For money, buy 100 tents. Use Recov Med-RF, which is a GF Carbuncle ability. Refine the tents into 25 mega potions. Mega potions sell higher then Tents cost so you make a lot of free money from doing this. 112500 for one go. If you use the trick and have 100 mega potions you will see great results. That should give you enough (unlimited) money to buy some power wrists for aura stones. Also the aura stones can be made into Aura spells by Supt Mag-RF which is a Leviathan ability. Good hunting for your ultimate weapons and magic!!

 

[SammyJankis]

thanks. it was such a pain fighting adel because i couldn't level up. but i guess that didn't matter because if i level up, so does the enemies. i barely beat adel thanks to zell's limit break (which probably took out 30,000 HP in three different hits combined) - which is a lot for the low levels i have on my party.

Interesting that you guys draw quite a bit. I missed out a few GFs for not drawing (I read) as compared to my brother's file (who had carbunkle, levianthun(sp?) and another one).

as for enemies in those locations, i guess i could go back and grab those magic. I do need to buy stuff because I didn't have money as my seed level was always at 1-2. Now i'm going to finish those tests.

I haven't played after beating adel yet as I'm a little busy, but I intend to. I just wanted to discuss and see where people are generally at during my stage.

I do somewhat understand the junctions - i guess having 100 meltdowns junctioned is better than having 10. That's a LOT of drawing required. I wish I could just buy magic.

Is it possible to beat the game at lvl 25, with a lvl 41 squall... with somewhat strong gfs - my quezecetol is at 71 or something. I don't have much items (that should be fixed) and I currently do not have too much magic - certainly not in the 100 of each of the ones mentioned. damn.

Is it possible to beat the rest of the game? in your eyes from where i'm at?

If not, I will start leveling up (if you think that'd help)

-- as for odin. i already beat the guy without drawing.. argh, i guess i lost the Triples. I do have Cerabus GF though - who is good for putting triple on everyone

-- I sometimes focus too much on beating the enemies (ie: Seifer) and do not focus on drawing. Sometimes I try and it fails, so I just concentrate on attacking. Sucks that by not drawing or attempting to draw that I missed out on Auras and GFs - Too much to worry about. Usually I concentrate on winning and healing my party that I do not have the time to draw magic from the "big" enemies

Thanks again for the help

 

[Bambi]

You could beat it at those levels easy, just make sure you junction 100 of each magic to your stats. The more magic junctioned, the higher the stat boost, I swear it took me about 8 years to discover that....and by saying I discovered it, I mean I read it on here somewhere and the penny dropped as to why my stats were always changing, and sometimes 100 cures would be better than 10 full lifes even though Id have full lifes before and have been better than cures... I just needed to stock more 8F

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box xD

Try refining magics from items or cards, or if you DO draw, make sure you have a hig magic stat so you're drawing more magic per draw than like, 3 o4 4 at a time, that is SO irritating, I hate drawing. I'm still on disk one myself and I swear half my gaming hours have just been draw-stock-draw-stock.... you need the patience of a SAINT Especially when you do that then foolishly die before saving ¬_¬

 

[SammyJankis]

damn.. i dont know how to use the cards. and i do not have the patience to stock up on 100 of each of the main magics. I did that for Cura and Cure because I thought that was useful, but I never did any for the rest.

So I went into Adel with like 4 meltdowns, 12 quakes, and like 7 ultimas.. very little.. again, i barely beat adel with the limit break of zell - ZERO auras. i had to use it from an aura stone.

I do not know how to play people with cards, but i have a lot of cards - do not know what they're for.

Sometimes I do draw 8-9 magics from enemies..

I just want to beat the game, haha.. hopefully i dont run into anything more difficult.. but i will draw more and stock up more.. i guess i dont have to "level" up too much anymore..

i was planing on spending hours just getting all my guys to level 70-80. adel part was brutal because they wont let you leave and the experience you get from nearby enemies were 1-3 exp points as opposed to the 400-500 i could get elsewhere. i thought i had to start all over

thank god for zell's limit break and that one aura stone i had