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they are tools that enable people to kill (very easily). a gun isnt going to shoot itself but when you allow every tom, dick and harry to have one what advantage has anyone got over anyone else? then you're just back to square one.

one minute you want them in case the need to overthrow your government arises. now you need them to save the world from terrorists. do you actually know why it is you want to play with guns at all or are you just looking for a seemingly valid excuse for them?
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Obama is the first president in office to not have a military background. He also happens to be a liberal socialist progressive.
While I'm sure a lot of people will refuse to think there is a correlation there, I have no delusions that these profound ideas such as disarming society are not due to ignorance.

Ironically, it is being portrayed as some sort of 'enlightenment'. From my perspective, that spells a-fucked-world. Since when did humanity get by on falsehoods?

Obama has been using totalitarian methods. He gave military officials a litmus test to determine if they would open fire on citizens in the event of disarming them. Meaning, he asked military officials to choose between the U.S. Constitution and his own agenda, which is national sacrilege.

Of course, society in general does not catch on to such things, because it is under a spell. The majority of the U.S. is pro-guns, and the 2nd Amendment concretes the right to bear arms, so how exactly could someone in office even posit such a thing?

Hitler used this same method: Germany did not consist of genocidal maniacs. He used the minority of Germans who were disrupted by Jews to sympathize with the rest of the country. Obama is doing the same exact thing.
He is propelling his own agenda, he is not looking out for the interests and demands of the populace. He is not American and is instigating civil unrest.
 
i think it's a lot more likely that your country just has quite a lot of paranoid, primitive, ape-like idiots dwelling in it and they dont want to let go of their toys and deal with problems properly instead of shooting everything.

in the uk we definitely do not have the gun culture you have in the US. i havent personally been the victim of rape, robbery or murder. nor has anyone i know (to my knowledge) so not having ready access to guns isnt a huge problem and since we recognise that while the law isnt always "right" it is above any one person's need for vengeance and that it is entirely backward to not just allow, but encourage vigilante "justice" by having a figure of 0.89 guns per person. and of course not just allowing hanguns, but high capacity, high powered assault weapons.

you are defending the constitution as though it were written in stone, and the very part you use to defend your childish right to your toy was an amendment. do you know what an amendment is? to amend something? it isn't a document that cannot be changed. maybe the way out of your gun obsession is education. simple things like what "amendment" means are being overlooked so that you can still have your precious toys which have no other purpose than to bring harm to other people. i assume you've never been outside of the US because you speak about the rest of the world as if it's some sort of war zone where everyone is under martial law and none of the citizens have any rights.

i cant speak for anyone else in the UK (especially not those areas where crime rates are quite high) but i certainly dont live with the constant paranoia that someone is out to get me and i dont live in a particularly crime free area. if someone approached me and stuck a gun in my face i very much doubt, even if i did have a gun myself, that i would be able to move fast enough to "defend" myself. i live in a society and recognise that it isn't my place to punish people for their crimes. i'm not impartial and without bias naturally. no one is. if someone hurt my family i would want to hurt them, but that is revenge, not justice.

why dont you do as jesus said and turn the other cheek?
 
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i think it's a lot more likely that your country just has quite a lot of paranoid, primitive, ape-like idiots dwelling in it and they dont want to let go of their toys and deal with problems properly instead of shooting everything.
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Is that why George Washington kicked your asses for the sake of disowning the crown and being independent?

You can follow the stereotype and hate on America,but it goes both ways. I can do the same, you see. The fact remains that your country, or kingdom, has had problems with totalitarianism for ages now. Did you know that Anglicanism came from King Henry VIII, who split from the Church because he couldn't get an annulment from his wife?
Your brand has a problem with self-righteous bias. That is why your spokesman is over here bleeding all over the Sandy Hook massacre.

why dont you do as jesus said and turn the other cheek?
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Turing the other cheek means to not react to bigotry and nonsense. It does not mean to be timid, or fail to act when action is needed. In fact, timidity is a sin in itself.
 
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Is that why George Washington kicked your asses for the sake of disowning the crown and being independent?

You can follow the stereotype and hate on America,but it goes both ways. I can do the same, you see. The fact remains that your country, or kingdom, has had problems with totalitarianism for ages now. Did you know that Anglicanism came from King Henry VIII, who split from the Church because he couldn't get an annulment from his wife?
Your brand has a problem with self-righteous bias. That is why your spokesman is over here bleeding all over the Sandy Hook massacre.
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my country is scotland. it may not be part of the united kingdom for much longer. then we can hopefully distance ourselves from your backwards country. and yes i am fully aware of what anglicanism is. thankfully i dont ascribe to any religion or any denomination of any religion. i think and speak for myself. many people in your country seem to have this ongoing problem with allowing out of date documents to be amended or scrapped altogether. a la the jesus book avec le tutu von brau brau petit pois. and also your constitution which you will defend to the death and unconstitutionally disallow it from being changed when lots of the sensible people in your country more than likely would love for it to be changed to discourage those vigilante nra apes and all the morons who worship guns :ari:


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Turing the other cheek means to not react to bigotry and nonsense. It does not mean to be timid, or fail to act when action is needed. In fact, timidity is a sin in itself.
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that's your interpretation of it, surely? unless you asked the man himself? :hmmm:

dont worry. even though you're a terrible sinner, jesus still loves you. he died on the cross just for you.
 
that's your interpretation of it, surely? unless you asked the man himself? :hmmm:
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That's the Christian interpretation, albeit there is a small fringe out there who labor under your notion.

If you are not religious, then you cannot interpret a holy book. Secular society is just too damn shallow :D
 
surely it needs no interpretation? it is what it is? unless you're saying that god deliberately let man write a book to guide his sheep but also let them be very vague and then expect his stupid sheep to interpret these things in such a way that would please him.

seems very convoluted to me.
 
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surely it needs no interpretation? it is what it is? unless you're saying that god deliberately let man write a book to guide his sheep but also let them be very vague and then expect his stupid sheep to interpret these things in such a way that would please him.

seems very convoluted to me.
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What do you think 'turning the other cheek means'? Do you think the analogy means to allow tyranny?
The context matches the meaning- disarming citizens is not merely a slap to the face.

Your interpretation is 'convoluted'. It is stupid and ignorant. If you're going to try and transgress a Catholic and their beliefs, you gotta do better then that. I'm turning the other cheek right now, you see. What you are doing is straw manning what I hold sacred to fit your bias. That is very offensive, not that someone such as yourself could recognize that.
 
hey there riddick (y)

i dont think your constitution says anything about you having the right to not be offended. maybe obama can add another amendment to it for you. i do apologise for using big words though. i'd try to dumb it down and be more blunt, but then it really would be offensive. but to you and not your religion. and i think that might be a rule breaker :hmmm:

i dont have to think about what it means because i dont follow the ways of your precious lord and saviour. i take it at face value. exactly how i'd imagine your almighty loving god would want me to take it. surely he wouldnt deliberately go out of his way to confuse me about what he has allowed men to write and say in his honour?
 
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hey there riddick (y)

i dont think your constitution says anything about you having the right to not be offended. maybe obama can add another amendment to it for you. i do apologise for using big words though. i'd try to dumb it down and be more blunt, but then it really would be offensive. but to you and not your religion. and i think that might be a rule breaker :hmmm:

i dont have to think about what it means because i dont follow the ways of your precious lord and saviour. i take it at face value. exactly how i'd imagine your almighty loving god would want me to take it. surely he wouldnt deliberately go out of his way to confuse me about what he has allowed men to write and say in his honour?
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Yeah, you go by the letter where you agree, and transgress wher eyou don't agree. The Consitution does no ban offensive statements, but it does ban prohiniting man's manifest destiny to self preservation.

My belief is that God came down in flesh and offered salvation to fallen beings, having been crucified to atone the sins of all men. Yes, that is my sacred belief.

But one does not have to be a Christian to see all the holes and false hope in the notion of anti-gun philosophy. Disarm America, or any other country, and watch what happens. It is the point of this thread to reveal that.
The world is not like your little haven.
 
more's the pity, babes.

how many times have you been raped, robbed or murdered? how many people do you know who have been raped, robbed or murdered?

ps: i dont mean the characters you've "met" whilst watching csi.
 
For a spam thread you guys sure are taking it very seriously...

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For the record don't worry we can still use spears, knifes, swords, bow and arrow, crossbow, poison, and many other things (y)
 
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more's the pity, babes.

how many times have you been raped, robbed or murdered? how many people do you know who have been raped, robbed or murdered?

ps: i dont mean the characters you've "met" whilst watching csi.
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I have 27 charges on my juvenile record, have been locked up 12 times, and have met every variety of a person that there is. One of my dear friends was stabbed to death outside of his own house a few years back, my sister was raped as a child, my ex-fiance committed suicide, and my mother almost died in a suicide attempt.

I know all about life. Maybe instead of you presuming a person on a forum site to be whatever you find typical, you should learn more about them.
 
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I have 27 charges on my juvenile record, have been locked up 12 times, and have met every variety of a person that there is. One of my dear friends was stabbed to death outside of his own house a few years back, my sister was raped as a child, my ex-fiance committed suicide, and my mother almost died in a suicide attempt.

I know all about life. Maybe instead of you presuming a person on a forum site to be whatever you find typical, you should learn more about them.
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gosh, aren't you a good little catholic. where do you even get the time to confess, riddick?
 
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gosh, aren't you a good little catholic. where do you even get the time to confess, riddick?
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I became Catholic two years ago. Take a six month class, get baptized, and partake in a little something called the Eucharist and you can be the same.

It's a far step better then being a vain, liberal, purposefully ignorant hippie who offers the world blissful fatalism.

Grow up, please, you and your country.
 
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