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Im at the point where I can go to the leviathen, rite now im doing all the side quests, Ive gotten all but three of the summonings, and I have the spear, and Ive done about twenty of the hunts and a bunch of the minor sidequests(Like delivering the letters, getting the girl a date and all taht...

Ragnorak?Even though there was none in the begginign of the game, but its something odin would know about, and there was references to the end of the world and stuff. apocalypse(ragnorak and apocalypse mean essentially the same thing)

Well, if you had played ten nine, or even eight then you would know what Im talking about. But basically it wouldnt have made sence to include ifrit and shiva in twelve becuase they werent the same kind of thing. Twelves summoning is more "litteral", think of iut this way. Twelves summonings are...

They justhad the same name, they were not the same place.

Even though all the final fantasy games are in different worlds with different people, they all still follow some basic fundamental rules, like the crystals always being a major part of the story, and the summonings all have followed the same rules and principles, nine and ten explains what the...

But at 300 posts how would you even know this person or if you can trust them as an admin? well hot damn, I'm gonna rack up about that much in a week and try my luck on the dart board.

I thinks its perfect as a progression, meaning I wouldnt want this system in seven or eight, but it fir for twelve. One of the main things I liked was it eased up on level grinding with the new gambit system, and on top of that, becuase everything happens on the field, healing my charectors...

Cloud truned out to be a loser weenie who really amounted to nothing and squall was an emotional distruaght teenager, they were more wimpy, they just didnt show it and only for a short period of time, but I still liked them better.

you can be an admin with only 300 posts:O

Final fantasy eight was a cuasual paradox, did you even play it? Your main guy goes back in time and starts the seed program, so he can make sure that later on in his own time he joins it and stops ultimacia, it doesnt make sence so therefor its what we call in literature a "cuasual time...

And I'm saying your explanation doesn't make since, the summonings in the old ones had no conscience, they did the will of the summoner because they were just people conscience being manifested into a tangible physical form, they were incapable of thinking, they just did. A perfect example of...

Cloud was a wimp to, and so was tidus and squall(it just took a while to find out is all) theres not really anything wrong with it as long as they don't try to play a wimp of as a hard ass.

are you stoned stupid, in seven you found out cloud wasnt even who you or anyone else thoughthe was in the beggining, you found out your main guy was a total loser, in eight oh my god, in eight you found out the entire preface of the game was started by squall, he just didnt know it(it was a...

ya nevermind the actual explanation I gave, jeez, does anyone actually read here or just post?

thats great and all but where can I create or trade items for other items, or is my guide misleading me?

I read somewhere that you can trade items for items in twelve, where can i do this, I'm trying to get the tournesoul and a guide I have says I can trade hi arcana and some other items for the stuff I need, but I don't know where to trade at.

I would say Fran, I mean c'mon shes well over fifty years old.

I spent upwards of 150 hours, and still didn't get everything mastered, I did however have all level 99 charectos, most of the time I would just sit around and fight because I liked the combat system so much.

I didn't really like the judges after I found out they were just some soggy old men under the helms, but I would gladly take that judge toy as long as they can erase my memory as to whats under them.

but like I just said it wouldn't make sense for them to be in there.......