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I think you do have the gist of what I am getting at. I guess when it comes to war... war is war, wether we like it or not, its too bad when its cruel or unfair, however times it might be necisarry for survival. I believe in killing for survival and certain ideals of life. And its depressing...

Well I guess to rebuttal the first part I would warrant 1,000 criminals living might cost more then that one innocent life being put away in the first place. At least that is what my money would definately be on. I guess its just agree to disagree. Sure they can be useful, but I don't want...

Its a different aspect I feel, on one hand we are what I like to call INFORMING, that is if you actually care about whats happening, which I sort of do. One informes us of what is happening in the world now, the other is hovering on the horrible acts of a man 30 years ago. I think that when...

Well now I was not the one really talking about the other end on the system. So please don't pin me down on it =P. I am sorry, but I never said I was willing to condem them to death....HOWEVER, since you spoke the words for me, and regarding the fact that I believe life in prison to be a worse...

Everything has its faults though, the judicial system and prison and penalty system both. I mean you can't have everything fixed at once and expect it to be perfect. Change comes in different pieces and different places, imo I think a capital punishment enforcing system is just a better one as...

Honestly I do not think that they will ALL do it without the image. So many people want to go down in history for doing something wicked, and the media and entertainment business can insure the success of this. There are many different copycat serial killers who perform the same things as other...

For the most part I do not see how any of this is glorifying Gacy, in any way shape or form. Films have been made based around his murders and the investigation that caught him. Many films and media have been based on the lives and actions of some of history's sickest humans. How does that...

So I decided to make a secondary form of debate that pretty much was born from the whole Casey and Hulster thing. After doing some thinking I figured yeah I guess its just porn, and there is no use arugeing the morality of a capitolist market after the woman was "declared innocent". So rather...

This. I could not agree with this anymore, I think it might be one of the best posts I have seen in this thread and I fully agree. I would like to also say, to hell with their moral redemption or atonements, or changing ways. I would rather take away the risk, and have them disappear. I mean...

This is the only one I have anything to really say against. I mean you are talking about only straight up murderers and nothing else. I am one of those people who thinks the death penalty sohuld go down for rape, child molestation, and almost every degree of murder. I think if a bunch of thugs...

I did not really read any of the others because I already know what my favorite happens to be. With one sentance I must say..... RELEASE... THE KRAKEN!!!!!!!! :Roland:

Hal I am not talking about killing people to reduce population, I am talking about a nation wide use of the death penatly, altered to reduce the long chain of hearings and time spent before the death penatly is carried out. There are a lot of people in prison for life for more then just murder...

Not really spiderman 4, but I believe a new generation series of spiderman movies with different casts and direction. Technically I guess you could call it spiderman 4 if you wanted to.

In response to your post I would like to point out I did not say everything we do is immoral by human nature. Please do not take that the wrong way. I would like to point out that everyone has good and evil inside of them, its how you use it that defines your character. Just because you know...

Its a misonception because while the short terms research, statistics, and facts can not be measured agaisnt unexpected events and costs that can't be measured. For one imo, I feel that you cannot put a price on natural resources, and second I will issue some examples. Potential medical...

I agree it is all opinion and perspective. That is what a debate is to me anyhow, the free exchange of opinion and ideas. It was not really restricted to the individual subject by any guidlines I guess. However, this is the opinion I sought out for others to see how they percieve the situation...

This thread was not really built for the foundation of determining if she is a good or not person, or innocent or guilty, that is all perspective and opinions as far as any of us are concerned. So unless you know or not.... no ones opinion on that really means more then another. It was meant...

You guys have oficially sold me on this flick. I will make sure to purchase it when it comes to video in China... which should be a couple days if it isnt already