Serious A Social Experiment

Richard B Riddick said:
Its cool.

But, you know, its like how some celebrities and movie stars brag about how their wife liked them before they became famous.

It may seem completely unimportant to some people. But, it does mean something.

Besides, its not as if I'm lying to people who are my friends or people I actually intend to befriend. Its just something I'm experimenting with to satisfy my own curiosity.

No one gets hurt and it doesn't affect anyone.

You were stating how you sometimes like to falsify certain points about your character, like the fact that you're poor when you're clearly not, to people on forums. You then went on to say that you did this as a ridiculous form of an "experiment," in order to see how they would respond. You are lying, that's the point. If you said to me, "Sneakerpimp, I come from a broken home and my parents work two dead end jobs but we're all poor," and I ended up sympathizing with your plight not knowing that you were lying, you would basically feel proud. You would feel proud knowing that your falsifying of your socioeconomic status to gain some pity and sympathy from people would be successful. But what do you truly gain from that? If I then hypothetically found out you were lying I would be rather annoyed and lose respect for you. What good does it do to lie when you can be honest?

That's my point. Forget that I mentioned my friends as an exemplary demonstration of how I would treat people. I'm talking about the virtues of honesty and being humble; it's like you don't seem to understand the value of those characteristics. When you're honest to someone about where you come from, whether your home is broken or not, they gain more respect for you. When you lie to someone and you gain their pity and they empathize with your falsified plight, only for them to find out you were lying to "see their reaction," you will anger them. They're wasting their emotions and energy on you all because in your twisted sense of logic, you feel it's necessary to conduct some sort of theoretical situation centered around "what if I'm poor, how would these strangers treat me?" It shouldn't matter. People don't befriend you simply because you lack monetary funds. They will usually befriend you ( I say "usually" because there are selfish people out there) based on your personal conduct, your character, and that is to say, the way you carry yourself or expose yourself to other people: strangers, relatives, and friends alike.

Furthermore, you state that no one gets hurt?! Are you kidding me! I've had friends backstab me and even strangers tell me something that was completely untrue. Then I investigated their lies and revealed the fact that they were dishonest and I lost respect for them. It hurts and it does affect the victim in this scenario (the victim in this case is the person you're lying to). Sure they'll get over it but they won't ever trust you.

I wouldn't be your friend or have any respect for you if you conducted this experiment on me. Frankly I find it to be a pointless exercise. Just be honest, you gain so much more respect from people that way: on forums and IRL.
 
for the record, the best way to find out who is true.. is by being yourself. fakes will always show their true colors in the long run. true friends will be there for you through thick and thin. if you are homeless, they would give you their couch to sleep on. i have encountered a ton of people through my life. i have learned first hand that there is only a handful of people who are really true. because i race bmx and am damn good at it. i have run into a ton of people who like me only because i race. every time i hang with them its always wanting to know about racing and bragging to their friends that they know me.. so i played a social experiment of my own..
i told those people i was retiring from racing.. and all but 2 still talk to me. even though i have not retired.. those people only liked me for my success.
recently i met some one who pretty much could care less about me racing. she talks to me about my other projects i do. now that right there is a true friend.. and that is some one that i could not live without.

now that rant is done. now i have had people lie to me to get me to be friends with them. hell i had girls act like they knew about bmx just to get with me.. when you do something like that, you are playing with fire.. never lie about yourself.. just be yourself.. plain and simple.. if people can't accept you for you.. then those aren't worth calling friends.
 
i played a social experiment of my own..
i told those people i was retiring from racing.. and all but 2 still talk to me. even though i have not retired.. those people only liked me for my success.

now i have had people lie to me to get me to be friends with them. hell i had girls act like they knew about bmx just to get with me.. when you do something like that, you are playing with fire.. never lie about yourself.. just be yourself.. plain and simple.. if people can't accept you for you.. then those aren't worth calling friends.

So what you're saying here is it's cool for you to lie to people to test their friendship with you, but it's not cool for people to pretend they know about something just to be your friend? :hmmm:

Maybe the people don't talk to you anymore because they found out you lied to them about not racing anymore?

That is a little bit hypocritical.
 
:hmmm: Maybe the people don't talk to you anymore because they found out you lied to them about not racing anymore?

That is a little bit hypocritical.

no.. i actually had one that is now dating mt best friend i race with. it was only 4 people i pulled that shanangan with, and they all were the types that only wanted to be with me for the social status of being with a bmx racer. i talk retirement a lot, but around them.. when i would.. i could tell by how they reacted that it was not something they wanted to hear..
 
So in order to verify how honest/fake certain people were, you acted fake around them. That seems like a classic case of self-blind bias. How are you better than these people who are acting fake around you, if you act fake around them?
 
for me it wasn't a social experiment.. it was finding out how true they were because of the way they were acting around me.. and yes it ended up being only 2. the one dating my friend.. we talk.. but i know how she is as a person.. and it will never get any further than that.

the moral to the thread is.. you need to be yourself.. if people around you are only after you for something whether it be material or social status.. that is not a true person. yeah i pulled it on 4 people.. makes me no better than them for it, but my intentions were to make sure they were with me for right reason.. for me.. not what i do.
 
i just did.. let me lay it down this way. it wasn't 4 people at the same time.. it was 4 separate occasions. now you got that laid down here is how it played out.

person 1: met me at a non racing event. got along and what not but was all about me racing.. brought me around their friends and introduce me as the "bmx racer" and hung all over me. would get mad at me when i lost and didn't make podium, but was all about me when i won and or podiumed. i missed 2 races due to a concussion and guess who didn't as once if i was alright.. yeah you guessed it.. all i was asked was "are you gonna race soon?" so that's when i came to realize this person wasn't real.. i asked straight out.. got a lie as an answer so that's when i did what i did.

persons 2 through 4 were pretty much the same. one, after i talked of retiring due to another concussion left me only to show up a week later with my best friend i raced with. so i find it very just in what i did.. i have since met a friend who is more about me as a person.. than me as a racer.. i do a lot of other things than race.. i have a career and side projects.. those were things that were almost never brought up with said 4 people. it was all racing racing racing.. racing doesn't pay all my bills.. it barley covers my groceries..lol
 
for the record, the best way to find out who is true.. is by being yourself. fakes will always show their true colors in the long run. true friends will be there for you through thick and thin. if you are homeless, they would give you their couch to sleep on. i have encountered a ton of people through my life. i have learned first hand that there is only a handful of people who are really true. because i race bmx and am damn good at it. i have run into a ton of people who like me only because i race. every time i hang with them its always wanting to know about racing and bragging to their friends that they know me.. so i played a social experiment of my own..
i told those people i was retiring from racing.. and all but 2 still talk to me. even though i have not retired.. those people only liked me for my success.
recently i met some one who pretty much could care less about me racing. she talks to me about my other projects i do. now that right there is a true friend.. and that is some one that i could not live without.

now that rant is done. now i have had people lie to me to get me to be friends with them. hell i had girls act like they knew about bmx just to get with me.. when you do something like that, you are playing with fire.. never lie about yourself.. just be yourself.. plain and simple.. if people can't accept you for you.. then those aren't worth calling friends.

Thanks for being open minded and not trying to crucify me for having a non-mainstream opinion.

And, much thanks for the advice.

So in order to verify how honest/fake certain people were, you acted fake around them. That seems like a classic case of self-blind bias. How are you better than these people who are acting fake around you, if you act fake around them?

Considering how dishonest you are and how much bs you fabricate to slander people, do you really think you're in a position to criticize anyone for being fake? lol

Yet -- another reason to leave this place, mods constantly editing everything I post.
 
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