Still confused about something...

[Fusionist]

Okay, straight to it since this is probably just something that can be answered rather easily. When you first arrive to The World That Never Was, there's that cutscene where Sora is fighting Roxas (and lucky people who got to play Final Mix and ACTUALLY fight Roxas *pouts*). Anyways, Roxas at one point says this:

"Why did he choose you?" or something along those lines

So whose Roxas talking about? I've never been really sure

I keep thinking Riku, but it doesn't really make sense to the story; Roxas doesn't mean much to Riku aside from being the main thing that kept Sora, his best friend, from waking up. And I don't think Roxas has any emotional attachment to him either.

Then I'm thinking maybe it's Ansem, since he wanted Sora to awake and use him to fight the Nobodies, and didn't care about Roxas' well being until just before he dies.

Or is it even something to do with the characters from Birth by Sleep

So is there a real answer or is it more speculation than anything else?

 

[Morrigan]

It'll unreveal in the next games.Maybe the KH:Birth by Dream.

 

[Gabranth]

It could one of several things. One of them being, Ansem the Wise, choosing Sora as his 'Organization XIII keyblade warrior'. It could also be Terra. Before the battle initiates with him, he says this (along with other lines): No...it isn't you. It isn't you that I have chosen. Why isn't it him?
And after the fight: I see. Your strength is...what I sense in you is...
This could mean many things, one being, he chose Riku as the next Keyblade wielder, but seeing that the Keyblade chose Sora after Riku turned to Darkness, Terra was confused as to why Sora was wielding it. Of course, that is only if you abide by a certain theory. After the fight, it seems like Terra knew something....perhaps Sora has shown him why he was the chosen one?

It could well be speculation, but my bets are on Terra, simply because the conversation is too similar to that of Terra's. - Roxas asks why he chose him. Then after some battling, Roxas says - I see...that's why. Rather alike aren't they?

 

[Davey Gaga]

Based on what I've gathered from playing the anything released in Europe, I had always assumed that he meant Ansem the Wise, who admits that he wanted to use Sora to take revenge upon Organization XIII - he had to reunite Sora and Roxas in order to accomplish this.

However, reading what Gabranth's just told us, I'd probably go for Terra. Also, given that the Kingdom Hearts series is becoming notorious for telling us things that wont be explained until much later, and Terra is non-existant to any of the English games, then it's probably Terra.

 

[Gabranth]

Actually, he does say that. Before the battle starts he says - 'Tell me...why? Why did he choose you?'

 

[The_Oathkeeper]

And after the fight: I see. Your strength is...what I sense in you is...
This could mean many things, one being, he chose Riku as the next Keyblade wielder, but seeing that the Keyblade chose Sora after Riku turned to Darkness, Terra was confused as to why Sora was wielding it. Of course, that is only if you abide by a certain theory. After the fight, it seems like Terra knew something....perhaps Sora has shown him why he was the chosen one?

I was always under the impression that the Keyblade chose its own master. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't think there was ever anything said about the previous master choosing its next wielder; it simply went to whichever available person had the strongest heart. Besides, Terra was only shown wielding the Kingdom Key at all in the secret video at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2. That seems to have been retconned in Birth By Sleep (

Spoiler

the secret trailer at the end of KH2:FM, not the game

). I believe he was simply wielding a random, unspecified Keyblade in that video. I'm not even sure if it had a Key Chain, which seems to be a feature specific to the Kingdom Key itself. I don't know, maybe Terra could influence the next wielder of the Keyblade. He was watching a young Sora and Riku play on Destiny Islands in one of the scans for...whatever reason, but I am pretty sure it was stated that the Keyblade simply chooses its own master.

As for Roxas? I'm guessing he was referring to Ansem the Wise. He basically stripped Roxas of everything he had (or at least everything he thought he had) for sake of reviving Sora and using him as the Keyblade Master. It's really the only time anyone has ever "chosen" Sora over Roxas, at least that we know of according to what we've seen so far. Basically, Sora got to live out the rest of his life. He got to exist. Roxas, however, didn't, and he seemed to be under the impression that Ansem was the one who decided which of them was to remain alive and in-control. Hence, Ansem "chose Sora" over Roxas. Of course, Sora was going to wake up in a year anyway, and I honestly don't think that Ansem could control whether Roxas would continue existing or not. However, I also don't think that Roxas knew it at the time. Really, he just wanted to know what gave Sora the right to exist. I don't know if the "who" was really important, even to Roxas; he was just asking what he lacked and Sora had.

Really, I don't think Terra is likely at all. In fact, now that I start thinking about it, it's pretty well impossible. When KH2 was first released, we don't even know if Nomura knew what he was going to do with Terra's character. His existence itself was only subtly alluded to, and it wasn't until KH2:FM that we see any semblance of involvement in the plot on his part. Even then, it was an optional boss battle that may or may not have even been canon. Aside from the fact that he didn't actually wield the Kingdom Key, how could Terra have possibly orchestrated the events that lead up to Roxas existing at all? He would've had to have planned for Destiny Islands to get sucked into the darkness, Kairi's heart to be taken in the process and taking residence in Sora's body, Riku obtaining a fake Keyblade with the power to unlock hearts, and Sora using that Keyblade to release Kairi's heart and, in the process, turning himself into a Heartless. Based on the dialogue we've seen written for him so far, Terra comes across as a pretty nice guy. I really don't think that he'd orchestrate the destruction of an entire world, the stealing of an innocent girl's heart, an evil Keyblade being created, and an innocent boy being forced to turn himself into a Heartless all for the sake of bringing out his "preferred" Keyblade Master. Besides, how could he pull off something like that at all?

If you were referring to Roxas asking why Terra chose Sora over Riku...I don't see why he'd even think to ask that. He didn't even exist for most of KH1. He wasn't around to see the events that unfolded leading to Sora being chosen as the Keyblade Master. Roxas only ever saw Riku with the Way to Dawn. He had no way of knowing that Riku had ever even held the Kingdom Key in his life. Aside from that, it's not exactly the sort of questions I would be asking if I were inevitably going to fade out of existence altogether in the near future, but that's just me, personally. Roxas was definitely asking something in relation to himself. If he had any random, miscellaneous questions about Sora's journey, I'm pretty sure they'd be a bit lower on his priority list, given that he was fighting for his existence itself. That being said, he was most likely referring to Ansem, because he actually "chose" to use Sora for his own devices rather than Roxas...or at least that's what Roxas thought.

 

[Gabranth]

Nomura often changes things entirely in final mix versions of the game. As for Roxas referring to Ansem the Wise, now that I look upon it, its likely to be him, but I'm not ruling Terra out. After all, there must be some connection bewteen the Ven and Roxas; for one thing they look alike.

As for Terra intervening in KH1 Destiny Islands, it is possible. Although its speculation, it does have some reasoning behind it: That Terra's voice is the one in Dive to the Heart, which Sora dreams. As you know, that's when he first obtains...or dreams of the Keyblade, so it can be looked upon that Terra has chosen Sora, or passed on his powers.

No, I wasn't referring to Roxas asking why Terra chose Sora over Riku, I was talking about Terra's conversation to Sora before you battle him. Although this defeats the speculation about Terra's voice.....not much else can be speculated at this moment in time.

Terra could have some evil side to him - near the end of the secret ending, his eyes turn red, signifying a different side to him. Perhaps he chose Sora over Riku, because he saw Riku could possibly turn or do what he has done in the past? Its a reoccurance with all RPG's, in which someone who's nice, turns evil and wroughts destruction upon the world.

To top it off, Terra might be whom Roxas was talking about. You may say that the battle with Terra is/isn't canon, but we know for a fact that the battle with Xemnas...isn't. (The one in Final Mix) This points to the fact that Nomura had some thought of this character. After all, I was speculating, and when one speculates, one tends to look for logical reasoning's; for this to happen, we must first look at important cutscenes, new scans, character development etc. If you add up the many points and facts: Terra overlooking Sora and Riku in thier childhood, The speculated voice in Sora's dream, Terra's conversation with Sora corresponding with the first point I made, and the conversation being rather similar to that of Terra's, its fair enough to to assume Roxas might have some connection with Terra.

It probably is Ansem The Wise, but Nomura likes to make an ordeal about small words characters have.

 

[SeekerOfDeath]

if i can correct you im pretty sure he sais WHY DID THE KEYBLADE CHOOSE YOU

 

[Gabranth]

No he does not say that; neither is he referring to the Keyblade. Why would the word 'he' refer to a Keyblade?

 

[The_Oathkeeper]

Huh. Didn't notice this reply existed. Alright, time to revive this baby.

Nomura often changes things entirely in final mix versions of the game. As for Roxas referring to Ansem the Wise, now that I look upon it, its likely to be him, but I'm not ruling Terra out. After all, there must be some connection bewteen the Ven and Roxas; for one thing they look alike.

But Roxas didn't exist yet. Yes, there probably is some sort of connection between Ven and Sora/Roxas, but Roxas is still a Nobody. He wasn't supposed to exist at all. There was no way Terra could've orchestrated the events that lead to Roxas's creation, so there's really no way he could've known that Roxas would ever exist. Even if Sora/Roxas is connected to Ven, Terra couldn't have "chosen" Roxas because Roxas was never meant to exist at all. We don't even know whether or not Terra was aware of the existence of Nobodies. For all we know, he might only have dealt with the Heartless and this new enemy- the Unbirth. We have to make far too many assumptions for it to be at all plausible. Theoretically, I suppose anything is possible, but it's incredibly unlikely. Terra would have to have manipulated too many variables. I find it hard to believe that he had any control, considering he seems to have been sleeping through most of KH1 and 2.

As for Terra intervening in KH1 Destiny Islands, it is possible. Although its speculation, it does have some reasoning behind it: That Terra's voice is the one in Dive to the Heart, which Sora dreams. As you know, that's when he first obtains...or dreams of the Keyblade, so it can be looked upon that Terra has chosen Sora, or passed on his powers.

But if Terra has chosen Sora, why would he have been surprised to see Sora with the Keyblade? I agree that the voice still doesn't have a set identity, so it could very possibly have been Terra, but that would mess up the conversation the two had before their battle. You yourself agree that Terra was shocked to see Sora with the Kingdom Key. However, if that was his voice when Sora first receives it, we would then assume that Terra knew Sora was getting it, given that he saw it happen and, indeed, possibly orchestrated the whole thing. As for it being unlikely that Terra would intervene at Destiny Islands, I meant that it was unlikely that he'd cause the entire world to be swallowed by darkness for the sole purpose of controlling who receives the Kingdom Key. He strikes me as a pretty nice guy, considering the dialogue we've seen from him. I don't think he'd swallow the souls of an entire world's worth of innocent people for sake of manipulating one person into receiving a Keyblade.

No, I wasn't referring to Roxas asking why Terra chose Sora over Riku, I was talking about Terra's conversation to Sora before you battle him. Although this defeats the speculation about Terra's voice.....not much else can be speculated at this moment in time.

If you weren't talking about Roxas, but rather, Terra, then...Well, a few months ago, I would say you were correct in assuming that Terra was referring to the fact that Sora had the Keyblade instead of Riku. However, in the most recent depiction of the Birth By Sleep Trailer, we see that Terra doesn't have the Kingdom Key. If he never wielded the blade, one can assume, then, that he had no say in who its next wielder would be. Even then, I believe it's the Keyblade itself that chooses who will wield it, not its previous master.

Terra could have some evil side to him - near the end of the secret ending, his eyes turn red, signifying a different side to him. Perhaps he chose Sora over Riku, because he saw Riku could possibly turn or do what he has done in the past? Its a reoccurance with all RPG's, in which someone who's nice, turns evil and wroughts destruction upon the world.

See above. I really don't know how much control Terra had over the KK's next wielder, and even then, if he chose Sora, he wouldn't have been surprised to see him with the blade...

To top it off, Terra might be whom Roxas was talking about. You may say that the battle with Terra is/isn't canon, but we know for a fact that the battle with Xemnas...isn't. (The one in Final Mix) This points to the fact that Nomura had some thought of this character. After all, I was speculating, and when one speculates, one tends to look for logical reasoning's; for this to happen, we must first look at important cutscenes, new scans, character development etc. If you add up the many points and facts: Terra overlooking Sora and Riku in thier childhood, The speculated voice in Sora's dream, Terra's conversation with Sora corresponding with the first point I made, and the conversation being rather similar to that of Terra's, its fair enough to to assume Roxas might have some connection with Terra.

The battle with Xemnas in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix was proven to be canon. We saw it depicted in a cut scene very early on in Kingdom Hearts 2; when Sora's memories are being returned to him, and we see clips of various scenes from the original Kingdom Hearts, the pre-battle cut scene (where Xemnas shoots an energy blast at Sora and he deflects it) is present among those images. You can see it right here at about 4:45. I'm not sure what that has to do with Terra's character, though. I believe the Terra fight is canon, as well, though it has little consequence as far as the main story is concerned at this point. But that battle, too, was also added in for KH2: Final Mix. We don't know whether or not Nomura had any idea what Terra's role will be in the original KH2. He hadn't even drawn his face yet. It's highly unlikely that Nomura knew exactly what role Terra was going to play in future KH titles; perhaps he had a vague idea of what he'd do in Birth By Sleep, but I highly doubt he planned the specifics.

Even without taking that into consideration, it's still pretty much impossible that Terra was talking about Roxas or that Roxas was talking about Terra. Again, allow me to point out that Roxas was never supposed to have existed in the first place. As I said, Terra would have had to have manipulated all the circumstances leading up to Roxas's creation in order for him to have known that Roxas was ever going to exist. He would've needed to make sure Destiny Islands would be swallowed by darkness, that Sora would get the Keyblade and end up with Kairi's heart inside of him, that Xehanort's Heartless would prepare a fake Keyblade for Riku, and that Sora would then use that Keyblade to relinquish his heart, thereby releasing Kairi's. Too many things leading up to Roxas's creation were out of Terra's control altogether. He couldn't possibly have ensured that Roxas would come into existence. There were too many strings that he would have needed to pull. Terra probably has some sort of connection to Sora, but he has no way of knowing that Roxas existed.

And I really don't see how their conversations were similar. I suppose they were vaguely similar in the sense that they both referred to a choice involving Sora. However, they directly contradict each other, the way you put it. According to Terra, he did not choose Sora. He expresses shock that Sora is there and holding the Kingdom Key. As such, we can assume that, whatever choice Terra made that he was was referring to, his choice was not Sora. Roxas, however, asks why "he chose you". Whatever choice Roxas was referring to, the person in question chose Sora. So with that in mind, Roxas couldn't possibly have been talking about Terra, because he [Terra] said that he DIDN'T chose Sora. It's definitely Ansem/DiZ.