Pros and cons of Final Fantasy VII

[Tedius Zanarukando]

The pros and cons of Final Fantasy VII according to my opinion are:

Pros

Interesting characters
Excellent soundtrack
Excellent gameplay
Materia system
Most popular and best-selling installment of the series worldwide
Brought the RPG genre from the niche market to the mainstream market

Cons

Outdated graphics
Mediocre sound quality
Controversial religious references

 

[cooky560]

You can't really blame for the graphics, it's outdated because it's old

And in everything excluding the midis in the PC version the sound is fine.

 

[Stella]

i thought its con waz not explaining things very well but most people consider that a pro.

based on todays standards and how far gaming has come, graphics is a con 4 me 2

 

[Shyne]

The pros and cons of Final Fantasy VII according to my opinion are:

Pros

Interesting characters
Excellent soundtrack
Excellent gameplay
Materia system
Most popular and best-selling installment of the series worldwide
Brought the RPG genre from the niche market to the mainstream market

Cons

Outdated graphics
Mediocre sound quality
Controversial religious references

about your 'cons'

The game is 10 years + old, it's gonna look outdated compared to games in 08

sound quality was perfect? Cdq, nothing wrong with it in my opinion

i can't remember any religious references in FF7 to be honest, can you explain that some more

 

[Misty]

Pros - The Turks. Tseng I fell in love with.
- Sephiroth.
- The Story. For the most part.

Cons - Main cast didn't do much for me.
- The whole world was too freakin depressing.
- Didn't have much in terms of a battle system. I've been pleased more by earlier versions.

That's about it I guess. Graphics aren't an issue. If anyones got a problem with what I've said, well, that's them.

 

[Jasmine You]

Well everything seemed to be fine with it for me because I mean the game is old, can't expect great stuff coming from a game that old, they were technologically challenged ^^;;

 

[barretboy]

Cons

Bland characters
Materia system...
Fanboy material extreme

Pros

Graphics were epic
Soundtrack

 

[Shyne]

Cons

Bland characters

how so? Every single character has a background story. Everyones story links together somehow and thats the 'fate' of FFVII. They were all destined to live out their part in life and come together as one etc.

The characters were far from bland if you ask me, but hey, it's your call !

 

[Grand Lethal]

Pros:
* Somewhat engaging storyline (only up to disk one, however)
* Limit Break System
* Materia System
* SOME interesting/appealing characters (Nanaki, Tifa, Aerith)

Cons:
* Sephiroth. What a crap villain. I mean, what has he actually done apart from: "OH! I MUST BE AN ANCIENT BECAUSE THIS DIARY SAYS SO! LETS GO KILL PPLZ AND GET MUMMY!" ...?
* Some douchebag characters (Cloud, Cid)
* Character backstories tend to be too forced or overdramatic (Nanaki, Barret)
* Setting. A world of technology ... that doesn't really utilize technology? Only Barret and Vincent seem to have the right idea about how to fight people with guns:

WITH GUNS

 

[Rydia]

how so? Every single character has a background story. Everyones story links together somehow and thats the 'fate' of FFVII. They were all destined to live out their part in life and come together as one etc.

The characters were far from bland if you ask me, but hey, it's your call !

A character with a back story can still be bland. However, I do not think any of the VII characters were bland.

 

[Daenerys]

Pros

Great Characters
Fun battle system
Interestingly complex storyline.
You get to decide things for yourself - Aerith or Tifa for example.

Cons

Rabid fanboys/girls who attack people because they don't agree with their opinion.
TOO. MANY. SEQUELS.
Tifa P)
n00bish fanboys.

That's all I can think of for now.

 

[cooky560]

I have seen a recurring theme here, and I am probably going to get attacked myself for asking this P) but what's wrong with Tifa?

 

[barretboy]

how so? Every single character has a background story. Everyones story links together somehow and thats the 'fate' of FFVII. They were all destined to live out their part in life and come together as one etc.

The characters were far from bland if you ask me, but hey, it's your call !

I saw every FF7 character as bland and I felt no sympathy for any of them. Their backstories were awful and cliché and set themselves up nicely for possible spin-offs.

Cloud - The wannabee silent protagonist. Starts silent only to be reduced to a blubbering wreck on the grounds that he's a puppet. At least I think he was a puppet hhis story was so 0_o that I was had no idea what was going on half the time.

Barret - stereotypical black person. (See Chris Rock on black people and niggers) Swears alot, loves his kid and has two jobs (barman and terrorist). Comes from a mining village/entrance to a theme park. (funnybones?)

Tifa - The girl every girl wants to be. attractive and knows martial arts. Does nothing to the plot other than eye candy and support said blubbering wreck. The childhood friends forever things was lulzsome tbh.

Aeris - Second girl who was painfully dull. Even her death sequence could have been more well done. We saw no real emotion from any of the other characters. Think forward to FFX when Tidus found out about Yunas fate. The speech really showed his emotion and was just wow. Did anyone really miss Aeris when she died. She did her bit - even whilst dead. Did she even need to be alive to begin with :S.

Red XIII - His story was alright but still the unsung hero syndrome. His father complex was a big heap of shit. Who cares if the dogs dad was a coward or hero (did we need to go through that cunting cave to find that out) Red should have loved him anyway.

Cid - Future wife beating redneck who swears, drinks and smokes. Not much more to him. Party used him for airship.

Yuffie - Managed to turn every player against her by putting you through the most irritating compulsory side quest ever. The materia fetish was jusst awful.

Vincent - I probs hate this character the most. He has a background that all the gifted and talented of Oxford couldn't correctly put together - helped along thanks to a spin-off that played badly, looked badly and explained badly. He just wept when he saw Lucrecia gained another batshit power and carried on. The whole turk in the past thing reminded me of the retired widowed ex-cop who was disgraced from his position but comes back for the love of the deaded person.

 

[Daenerys]

I saw every FF7 character as bland and I felt no sympathy for any of them. Their backstories were awful and cliché and set themselves up nicely for possible spin-offs.

Awful and cliche? I think not. And all FF characters set themselves up nicely for possible sequels *cough* FFX *cough*

Cloud - The wannabee silent protagonist. Starts silent only to be reduced to a blubbering wreck on the grounds that he's a puppet. At least I think he was a puppet hhis story was so 0_o that I was had no idea what was going on half the time.

Translation - "I didn't get the storyline, and I was confused by Clouds sudden change when I decided to pay attention" That being said, it's a thing called "character development" Cloud develops greatly throughout the game, he turned into a "blubbering wreck" because he discovered his life was practically a lie, and he had no idea who he really was.

Barret - stereotypical black person. (See Chris Rock on black people and niggers) Swears alot, loves his kid and has two jobs (barman and terrorist). Comes from a mining village/entrance to a theme park. (funnybones?)

There's far more to Barret than simply that, he has reasons to hate the ShinRa, they destroyed his home town, his family, his wife. He loves Marlene because she is the only precious thing he has left from when his life was destroyed. The fact that his hometown is connected to a theme park means nothing, his hometown needed to make money somewhere, tourists would provide it.

Tifa - The girl every girl wants to be. attractive and knows martial arts. Does nothing to the plot other than eye candy and support said blubbering wreck. The childhood friends forever things was lulzsome tbh.

Although I agree with you on the whole "childhood friends forever" thing, I do disagree with the rest. Remember, Tifa was a last minute character, so she is one of the most lacking characters. She too lost everything, her parents, her home town, all her friends etc. Clinging onto Cloud is like her clinging onto her past.

Aeris - Second girl who was painfully dull. Even her death sequence could have been more well done. We saw no real emotion from any of the other characters. Think forward to FFX when Tidus found out about Yunas fate. The speech really showed his emotion and was just wow. Did anyone really miss Aeris when she died. She did her bit - even whilst dead. Did she even need to be alive to begin with :S.

Aeriths death was done very well in my opinion. Graphically, it was the best they could do. Clouds speech after her death shows more emotion than Tidus' speech did. Just because it didn't have voice acting doesn't mean it wasn't moving. And, Aerith was one of the main characters in the game, and was evidently missed by the party, and their speech before the final battle with Sephiroth was dedicated to her.

Red XIII - His story was alright but still the unsung hero syndrome. His father complex was a big heap of shit. Who cares if the dogs dad was a coward or hero (did we need to go through that cunting cave to find that out) Red should have loved him anyway.

His father complex is because he blamed his father for his mothers death. It was important for Red to know the truth so he could forgive his father and love him once more. "Red should have loved him anyway" is a silly statement, if someone you love is killed by the actions of another loved one, you wouldn't love them anymore, you'd hate them.

Cid - Future wife beating redneck who swears, drinks and smokes. Not much more to him. Party used him for airship.

Redneck, yes. Bland, no. There is more to Cid than you think, he had his whole life taken away from him by the ShinRa, his dream destroyed along with his livelyhood. He swears, he smokes, but he doesn't drink, and he cares for Shera a lot more than you think. He isn't a "future wife beater" he stopped the launch of his rocket into space because he knew Shera might die.

Yuffie - Managed to turn every player against her by putting you through the most irritating compulsory side quest ever. The materia fetish was jusst awful.

Yes, the sidequest is annoying, but the reasoning behind it is quite meaningful. Her home was destroyed in the war with ShinRa, her peoples pride wounded, people she knew and loved were possibly killed. Yuffie is motivated by revenge, she didn't have a materia "fetish" she wanted the power it would give her so she could share it with her people, incase the ShinRa ever started another war.

Vincent - I probs hate this character the most. He has a background that all the gifted and talented of Oxford couldn't correctly put together - helped along thanks to a spin-off that played badly, looked badly and explained badly. He just wept when he saw Lucrecia gained another batshit power and carried on. The whole turk in the past thing reminded me of the retired widowed ex-cop who was disgraced from his position but comes back for the love of the deaded person.

I've yet to play DoC so I can't really comment much on Vincent. He loved Lucrecia, and was heart-broken when Hojo used her for his experiments, Vincents story shows his eternal shame that he was unable to help Lucrecia.

I find it amusing that Cait Sith was missed out, which leads me to one of my own cons of FFVII - Cait Sith is generally hated because people don't pay attention to the finer points of his story - such as his sacrifice in the temple of the ancients.

And, I find it ironic that your username is Barretboy, yet you can't find one good thing to say about any of the FFVII characters.

 

[Rydia]

I saw every FF7 character as bland and I felt no sympathy for any of them. Their backstories were awful and cliché and set themselves up nicely for possible spin-offs.

Cloud - The wannabee silent protagonist. Starts silent only to be reduced to a blubbering wreck on the grounds that he's a puppet. At least I think he was a puppet hhis story was so 0_o that I was had no idea what was going on half the time.

Barret - stereotypical black person. (See Chris Rock on black people and niggers) Swears alot, loves his kid and has two jobs (barman and terrorist). Comes from a mining village/entrance to a theme park. (funnybones?)

Tifa - The girl every girl wants to be. attractive and knows martial arts. Does nothing to the plot other than eye candy and support said blubbering wreck. The childhood friends forever things was lulzsome tbh.

Aeris - Second girl who was painfully dull. Even her death sequence could have been more well done. We saw no real emotion from any of the other characters. Think forward to FFX when Tidus found out about Yunas fate. The speech really showed his emotion and was just wow. Did anyone really miss Aeris when she died. She did her bit - even whilst dead. Did she even need to be alive to begin with :S.

Red XIII - His story was alright but still the unsung hero syndrome. His father complex was a big heap of shit. Who cares if the dogs dad was a coward or hero (did we need to go through that cunting cave to find that out) Red should have loved him anyway.

Cid - Future wife beating redneck who swears, drinks and smokes. Not much more to him. Party used him for airship.

Yuffie - Managed to turn every player against her by putting you through the most irritating compulsory side quest ever. The materia fetish was jusst awful.

Vincent - I probs hate this character the most. He has a background that all the gifted and talented of Oxford couldn't correctly put together - helped along thanks to a spin-off that played badly, looked badly and explained badly. He just wept when he saw Lucrecia gained another batshit power and carried on. The whole turk in the past thing reminded me of the retired widowed ex-cop who was disgraced from his position but comes back for the love of the deaded person.

Wait, you thought the VII characters were bland but not the X characters who were quite bland and unoriginal?

 

[Pineapplenipple]

Pros:
Graphics
Characters
Story
Gameplay
Minigames ( they were nice change in the story, not just XII-style where its dungeons and killing monsters, no funny minigames.

Cons:
Glitches

VII is very good FF-game and characters were much better than X characters who were all just some pretty people. What is wrong with ugly black guy or redneck who drinks, smokes and swears. Barret and Cid are easily much more interesting thant Tidus who cries because he is not famous and center of attention in his new world.

//Btw only outdated thing in FF7 is that Pluto is no longer a planet, during supernova Pluto gets destroyed but it should removed since it is not a planet anymore.

 

[cooky560]

I'd say the dodgy translation (spelling errors) is a Con as well.

 

[barretboy]

Awful and cliche? I think not. And all FF characters set themselves up nicely for possible sequels *cough* FFX *cough*

FFX-2 shouldn't have happened - ever. FFX was fine on it's own.

Translation - "I didn't get the storyline, and I was confused by Clouds sudden change when I decided to pay attention" That being said, it's a thing called "character development" Cloud develops greatly throughout the game, he turned into a "blubbering wreck" because he discovered his life was practically a lie, and he had no idea who he really was.

I felt no more sympathy for Cloud at the end of the game than at the beggining. When the game started he had no idea who he was. He was a "jack of all trades" who could come and go like any minor character. He just went along with whatever life threw at him and I didn't see him having any goals in life. Zidane in FF9 also discovers his life is a lie. The you're not alone scene, with all the other characters trying to help him and him fending them off and trying to go it alone was epic. Cloud was just a penis about the whole thing and did nothing of merit.

There's far more to Barret than simply that, he has reasons to hate the ShinRa, they destroyed his home town, his family, his wife. He loves Marlene because she is the only precious thing he has left from when his life was destroyed. The fact that his hometown is connected to a theme park means nothing, his hometown needed to make money somewhere, tourists would provide it.

How many wives and families did he kill on his bender against shinra. He killed innocents for his own problems. What did his hometown do before the reactor and gold saucer? I always assumed they were some kind of mining village.

Although I agree with you on the whole "childhood friends forever" thing, I do disagree with the rest. Remember, Tifa was a last minute character, so she is one of the most lacking characters. She too lost everything, her parents, her home town, all her friends etc. Clinging onto Cloud is like her clinging onto her past.

I can't remember what I didn't know. What do you mean be "last minute character?" For a last minute character she has a huge impact on the story. eg the life stream sequence. Wasn't her childhood friend Zack and CLoud the dorky kid next door?

Aeriths death was done very well in my opinion. Graphically, it was the best they could do. Clouds speech after her death shows more emotion than Tidus' speech did. Just because it didn't have voice acting doesn't mean it wasn't moving. And, Aerith was one of the main characters in the game, and was evidently missed by the party, and their speech before the final battle with Sephiroth was dedicated to her.

I didn't mean graphically. But how hard is it to draw a black line on clouds face to indicate unhappiness. Aeris was going to die at some point during the game because she needed to die to unleash holy. I didn't see the point of going to kill sephiroth apart from him being fucktarded. Holy could have stopped meteor regardless as long as it was unleashed?

His father complex is because he blamed his father for his mothers death. It was important for Red to know the truth so he could forgive his father and love him once more. "Red should have loved him anyway" is a silly statement, if someone you love is killed by the actions of another loved one, you wouldn't love them anymore, you'd hate them.

I agree with that actually. But did red have any impact on the game after this. He was given one line I think in AC. Red was always just "there"...

Redneck, yes. Bland, no. There is more to Cid than you think, he had his whole life taken away from him by the ShinRa, his dream destroyed along with his livelyhood. He swears, he smokes, but he doesn't drink, and he cares for Shera a lot more than you think. He isn't a "future wife beater" he stopped the launch of his rocket into space because he knew Shera might die.

He drinks tea Yet he blamed her and practically made her his bitch from that point onward for dashing his hopes and dreams. Shera may have felt compelled to help him but he could appreciate that at least a bit.

Yes, the sidequest is annoying, but the reasoning behind it is quite meaningful. Her home was destroyed in the war with ShinRa, her peoples pride wounded, people she knew and loved were possibly killed. Yuffie is motivated by revenge, she didn't have a materia "fetish" she wanted the power it would give her so she could share it with her people, incase the ShinRa ever started another war.

She wanted to restore her peoples pride by stealing the resources they may need.

I've yet to play DoC so I can't really comment much on Vincent. He loved Lucrecia, and was heart-broken when Hojo used her for his experiments, Vincents story shows his eternal shame that he was unable to help Lucrecia.

Why can't Cloud be like that when he was unable to help Aeris? Lucrecia knew what she was getting herself into and new the possible consequences.

I find it amusing that Cait Sith was missed out, which leads me to one of my own cons of FFVII - Cait Sith is generally hated because people don't pay attention to the finer points of his story - such as his sacrifice in the temple of the ancients.

I thought Cait Sith was good actually. I can't think of another game with a giant stuffed toy that twats people with megaphones thats controlled by the opposing team. I forgot to add him to my list

And, I find it ironic that your username is Barretboy, yet you can't find one good thing to say about any of the FFVII characters.

I liked the alliterative ring to it and I wanted a "superhero" sounding name when I first used it (about 2-3 years ago)

Why does everyone call her Aerith - she was Aeris in the game. Unless your following a different translation.

 

[reddas]

I do feel that Final Fantasy VII does have a better story than any of the other games in the series. Even if I knew someone who only playes games for the graphics (which I don't, by the way) then I would still try and persuade them to play through Final Fantasy VII!

 

[Ultimator777]

Pros

- Graphics. It was revolutionary for it's time
- Soundtrack
- Materia system
- Story/Characters

Cons

- Too easy compared to previous installments