The UN

[Donald Trump]

as part of the international relations course for A2 history, there is a part on the UN
Now before i started studying the UN i thought they where a bit useless, but learning more about thr UN just confirms that.

So what do you guys think of the UN? good or bad?
also compared to the LON and to the role of other countries you have intervened in world affairs ie US, China, USSR/Russia
this is for the the start of the UN untill present day.

do you think the UN is succesful at what it is meant to do, or do you think its more a symbol that countries can co-operate and nothing more.
discuss

 

[Erythritol]

To be honest, I don't have very much faith in the United Nations. I think what they stand for is lovely and very admirable, but just not realistic. Quite frankly, I think they're somewhat of a useless organization. They're really involved with human rights and peace, right? Well what took so fucking long with Darfur? What exactly were they waiting for? They just completely ignored it for a long time. And when they finally get their act together, they send in a few peacekeeping forces. What the hell is that going to do? What a nice gesture, but in genocides, it's not the thought that counts. That, I think, is the problem with the United Nations. They don't have the necessary forces to accomplish their goals. Yes, it would be lovely if it didn't take violence to stop genocide, but it does. The old saying "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" is ridiculous. How exactly, then, is peace achieved? We all just put flowers in our hair and sit around listening to The Beatles and everything horrible in the world disappears? Please. Many tyrannical people only understand violence and force. The United Nations does not have that force. And while their ideas about world peace are really admirable, they just aren't realistic. There will NEVER be world peace.

So in summation, after going off on tangents, I think the UN is more of a symbolic organization than anything else.

 

[Dagolu]

I think that they could definitely be a more prominent voice in the world's problems, but considering the amount of work they have to do, it's quite admirable.

Considering the amount of countries that they have to manage without resorting to violence and remaining neutral, they do well.

I'm a bit dissapointed that they are forced to remain neutral, cannot use force unless they are attacked. (like in Darfur and Rwanda. The agressor and "bad" group is easy to tell, but they can't actually help stop the violence. they can only help the people by helping them recover after they get attacked.