The LOCP Thread

Porn sites also have "protection" as well. They won't let you see their content if you're not 18 or older, and you usually have to pay for an account to even see it. Just because you have members on your site that are old enough to see such things doesn't mean this forum does. In fact, we allow younger members to post here and read your posts as well; they have as much priviledge as you do posting on FFF. The point is that we didn't know that underaged members would be banned from LOCP, and even if they did, then allowing you to post about LOCP here would be no different from allowing you to post about a porn site that doesn't give out content to people without paid membership.

We also can't assume that no one else besides you guys would go and post about the porn on LOCP. You have no control over what anyone from LOCP would go and say over here; you only have control over what you say. Like I said, your intentions mean nothing if others don't see it that way. You never posted saying that you didn't want people to troll your thread by posting about the porn on LOCP; Cool Teen never said that the porn on LOCP was only for older members, and that underaged members would be banned.
 
So you're just assuming what our policies are because he didn't specify either way? Nice.

You're telling me that saying the word "porn" violates some rule here? A violation worthy of a topic closing? I don't believe any of this is the reason my thread was closed. The bias inherent in the closing post, along with the fact no reason at all was given until halfway through this thread (a very flimsy reason at that, one which has no backing in the rules) leads me to believe you're just making up whatever you can to justify your actions and make us seem like the bad guys, yet again. Same old, same old. I don't know why we bother giving your site activity.
 
No, we're assuming that there's a possibility of someone discussing the porn on LOCP. It doesn't have to be you; it could be someone else that's familiar with LOCP.

I don't have the concern with saying the word "porn" in this forum. It's when you talk about porn or if you discuss a website that contains porn, and the potential for the wrong crowd to accidentally find it, even if you don't intend for that to happen.

As I have already said, "your" sense of "justice" does not dominate our ability to determine what is deemed appropriate at FFF or what a moderator or staff does at his or her discretion. This is not about your sense of justice if you choose to call it that. Again, your access here at FFF is only a priviledge. That is, you have no rights whatsoever as to what you post here. By signing up for membership and posting priviledges at FFF, you have waived your rights to free speech on FFF. So if we don't like what you're posting here on FFF, we reserve the right to remove it, because you are using our services. You don't have to like it, and we don't have to appease your sense of justice either.

And for your information, (and I have no idea why you choose to ignore this) I have been saying that if you don't like it, you don't have to post here. You're not obligated to stay. If you want to give FFF activity, that's your choice. I don't care if you don't stay. We don't need more people like you who would stir up problems on FFF anyways.
 
Well all I have to say, then, is that if anybody wants the rights of free speech, sign up at LOCP and you'll be treated like an actual person that exists in an actual government. We don't run our forums to make ourselves feel like dictators.
 
There are actually many forums that run on a terms of service that is considered a "dictatorship" according to you. They're just thanklessly providing a service, and running it the way they want it. Not everyone who uses the services are in disagreement with them.
 
Yeah, most forums are like that, with the staff operating on such a simplistic and easy system like dictatorship, where they can make up any rules they want as they go along and justify themselves in the fact that members have a "priveledge" to post, not a "right." Don't people expect better than that in this day and age? And we thought Russia was living in the past by supporting serfdom in the 20th century.

LOCP is different.
 
Unfortunately, this is a forum, not real life. You're just making exceptional cases that don't normally happen. Up until you got here, nobody's been talking about porn or continued harassing members when we asked them to stop. You're just someone who doesn't like the way we run things on our own forums, even though it worked just fine before you got here.

Like I said, we don't need people like you to do anything for our site activity.
 
It worked fine until I got here because I'm not an ass kisser like that Kiskonagua-Aigue person, whatever his name is, or the others here with who haven't seen the light. You've certainly read Plato's "Allegory of the Cave." I hope you can understand my purpose here. I've seen what the real world is like, and it's my obligation to free the others chained in a manner that they can only see the shadows.
 
And that also means no minors on LOCP. So it doesn't apply to everyone.

And I'm quite sure there were people on LOCP making fun of the administrators at ACF, and probably several other people.
 
Does anyone mind if I interveine?

Sakhu, they're right. They run this site, not you. They make the rules, not you. If they deemed that thread innapropriate, then that's what it is. You need to think of it like a food chian; they're at the top, and members like us are at the bottom. I also read through that thtead, and the little that was there made me too think that it was worthy to be closed. That's just how it is. Do you understnad? You simly need to accept that you don't run this iste and what;'s closed. That's not your decision.
 
That's funny, because at any logical forum where staff don't abuse their powers, I've always seen the staff at the bottom of the food chain. Who wants to be staff? You have to clean up everyone's crap, do all their bidding and dirty work. Even one admin of a forum that I know was complaining last night that he has to admin two forums. It's a pain in the ass. I don't see anything to be all high and mighty about. When I've been admin and mod of forums, I never abused my power by banning people I don't like for ridiculous and/or no reasons at all, or never did I have such a sense of superiority to actually say "how dare you talk to me like that!" I'll never understand how people develop such an ego from being a moderator on an online forum.
 
You don't need to tell us how to do our jobs. If we think your thread should be closed, and there's no disagreement in the staff about it, we will close it. Perhaps where you moderate, the staff are at the bottom of the food chain, or maybe that's your ideal, but that doesn't mean it applies to us. As Tifa has mentioned, we make the rules for this forum, this is our service, and you are only priviledged to use it. Therefore, we don't have to take crap from people who will abuse our service by breaking the rules, causing trouble or annoying us for no reason at all other than pure enjoyment.
 
You think I enjoy your harsh words? No, no, it's paining me. I only hope one day you'll see things our way and it will bring you great joy.
 
It doesn't bring me great joy to know that you allow other people on your forums to flame each other or cause drama, simply because everyone on that forum agrees with it.

But since you're obviously still here, I must conclude that you take some form of amusement out of this, otherwise you'd simply leave and stop bothering with us. If it pains you so much, what's it to you?
 
They're right ( again). Staff is hardly ever at the bottom of the food chain. The only places where that happens is the places where the staff doesn't do their job and keep their members in check.

If you are so 'pained' by thier 'harsh words' then why don't you just leave? It wo't make a difference; there are plenty more active members.
 
I don't see what's so hard with following the rules. If there is some confusion let the staff make it clearer for you...which they have. You get a free account so you can interact with your friends...in return you follow the rules and don't cause trouble.

That's funny, because at any logical forum where staff don't abuse their powers, I've always seen the staff at the bottom of the food chain. Who wants to be staff? You have to clean up everyone's crap, do all their bidding and dirty work.
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Don't make me laugh. I've seen abusive forums and this aint' it. And the staff are neither at the bottom or the top. They work with the members to make a good place for everyone...If the members follow the rules there is no crap to clean up. The only crap comes from people who don't obey and once they are swiftly taken care of all the problems are solved. Good members don't deserve abuse from other members who just can't follow a few rules.

Even one admin of a forum that I know was complaining last night that he has to admin two forums. It's a pain in the ass. I don't see anything to be all high and mighty about. When I've been admin and mod of forums, I never abused my power by banning people I don't like for ridiculous and/or no reasons at all, or never did I have such a sense of superiority to actually say "how dare you talk to me like that!" I'll never understand how people develop such an ego from being a moderator on an online forum.
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The only admins that are unhappy about their jobs are ones that either too powerless or too cowardly to do their job. And if he was so unhappy he can always quit. Being a forum admin does not put food on your table, after all. And don't give us that nonsense about "I was the prefect admin"...the perfect admin will not allow any sort of rule-breaking. They want a forum where EVERYONE not just a select few can enjoy.

And I don't recall a single person saying "how dare you talk to me like that!". So where did that line come from?

Let's make this clear: follow the rules and the staff will be fine with you. Don't follow and get warned/suspended/banned. Very simple.
 
Dragonsoul said:
The only admins that are unhappy about their jobs are ones that either too powerless or too cowardly to do their job.
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I wonder if you would have said that if you knew who she was talking about. :lol: Let's hope that admin doesn't see this post of yours.
 
I wonder if you would have said that if you knew who she was talking about. Let's hope that admin doesn't see this post of yours.
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So you suddenly can read my mind? Newsflash: That was a general statement not directed towards anyone in particular, she or otherwise.

Please try again.
 
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