Sephiroth Incarnate

Dean Winchester

Dean Winchester

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Some players sent me a message complaining about how strong the Sephiroth Incarnate is.

In an actual battle, and I'll use Gabranth as an example, his speed is almost 300, but Sephiroth's speed is 700, which allows Sephiroth to attack more than three times in a row, and it's worse when he uses Oracle of Ice. An actual battle with Sephiroth Incarnate goes like this:

Sephiroth
Player
Sephiroth
Summon
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Player
Sephiroth uses Oracle of Ice
Sephiroth
sephiroth
Sephiroth (oracle of ice fades away and thus the turns are reset, giving Sephiroth one more turn to attack)
Player
Sephiroth
and if the player is lucky, he will either win or continue this seemingly endless cycle....

The only players who have reached Zanarkand Ruins(an area that can only be accessed from Castle Pandemonium Floor 10) are Tsuchikage, Neo Amon, and Strife. Three players out of 326 registered users.


The monsters and bosses of the Zanarkand section are strong, but not impossible to beat but Sephiroth, on the other hand, it's almost invincible, and if you defeated Sephiroth then that must mean either that:

*A-You are a RPG Moderator
*B-You are just too lucky....someone high above in the heavens loves you a lot :rolleyes: seriously:P
*C- Somehow you cheathed, how? beats me

So, I remember someone mentioning that the Bosses' speed shouldn't surpass enormously that of normal players. If I am correct, the speed limit of normal players is 300, way lower than 700 plus if you add the Oracle of Ice spell.

Let's say that a player uses both hastega and the Oracle of Ice, when that happens his/ her character will be near death and his summon must be probably dead. Also they only get 2 attacks while Sephiroth gets 6.

Also, the Incarnates. Those two monsters are way too strong. I was forced to cheat in order to beat those two and I had a really long battle, the only way to defeat them is with either the spell "Death" (that is if you are lucky enough to hit anything with "death") or by cheating.

Because of this, players will probably be stuck forever on that area and get bored, thus making my our hard work with Zanarkand (Tiel, Koloth and myself) worth nothing since they will never reach it, or probably not be there in a long time, that is if the RPG is not reset by then.

I want players to enjoy the RPG, not to complain about the bosses being too strong. If we can't edit Sephiroth Incarnate, then I'll relocate the link to Zanarkand Ruins from Castle Pandemonium Floor 10 to Floor 9, and add a Boss between those two areas, which will be weaker than Sephiroth, and allow players to have a chance to play through the new areas before the Reset, an action that I consider comepletky reasonable in the complete sense of fairness.


I took my time to wander through the old areas and asked those who have reached Castle Pandemonium Floor 9, and they all repeated the sameanswer : "What does it takes to beat Sephiroth? How can I defeat Sephiroth? Sephiroth is too strong, Sephiroth this, Sephiroth that, Please lower his speed..." blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc....
 
I am the one that said that monsters' SPD should not be rediculously higher than players. It creates an unfair fight. The only stats that I feel will not make an unfair fight, if larger, are STR, HP and maybe MP. But even those should not be too rediculous.

Another thing, people cannot team against Sephiroth.
 
Koloth said:
I am the one that said that monsters' SPD should not be rediculously higher than players. It creates an unfair fight. The only stats that I feel will not make an unfair fight, if larger, are STR, HP and maybe MP. But even those should not be too rediculous.

Another thing, people cannot team against Sephiroth.
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I fought Sephiroth on a test and he got me in turns >_< I couldn't even attack :rolleyes:

Also Gabranth, who is a LV 124 Player, fough Sephiroth Incarnate again and here's the summary:

Sephiroth uses Oracle of Earth (DEF +200)
Sephiroth attacks Pheonix (summon) resulting in death
Sephiroth attaks Gabranth but misses
Gabranth attacks Sephiroth dealing 230 of damage to Sephiroth.
Sephiroth uses Oracle of Fire (STR +300, + DEX around 300)
Sephiroth attacks Gabranth
Gabranth attacks Sephiroth
Sephiroth attacks Gabranth, thus resulting in death

See, Sephiroth had 6 attacks while Gabranth had two, and the player didn't had a chance to either heal, resurrect his summon or counter attack.


Also both Tsuchikage and Neo Amon got ridiculously pawned by the Incarnates in Castle Pandemonium Floor 10.

Monsters shouldn't have speed way higher than players, it's irrational.
 
What the hell, why are you linking areas to floor 10? :P You know you can't do that... I moved the link to Archaenon for now.

Anyways, it's not THAT hard to beat him, just get some good spells, plenty of HP, and use oracle of the elements. Remove ALL of your DEF and MAG DEF and put it on HP. Get plenty of MP on your pet and player and make sure to have Giga Flare and Warp. Have your pet and player cast Shell on the player and have him use Giga Flare and Warp on Sephiroth while your pet uses Curaga. Attacking him is impractical in this battle, but if you have to, instead max out EVA and DEX on your main player, cast Protect on him with both characters, and focus on attacking like mad. It will take longer to win that way, though.
 
Well, maybe we should tell the players some of this, since it seems that it is very hard to get past him.
Also, his speed should not be that high in the first place. The players speed is basically their only advantage in the latter parts of the game.
 
Well, maybe players should stop having crappy stats and focus on playing the game right. I'm sick of players abusing the battle system just because they can move first- it's two on one, you know...
 
Adamant said:
Well, maybe players should stop having crappy stats and focus on playing the game right. I'm sick of players abusing the battle system just because they can move first- it's two on one, you know...
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What about the Incarnates? They totally destroyed both me and my summon...

Description *a big massacre like one of those battles from the movie 300*:P
 
Adamant said:
Get some allies and some spells. They do little damage, they just take a long time to kill.
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Do you have a "Adamant's Secret Strategy Book" or something similar that?:P

Also I need every book related to your Paladin Knights if I want to link the new castle to their story. ;)

That or I can take one day to read every single book you left there....wow...:| that's going to be a long day...>_<
 
One problem with the allies, you can't team again the sephiroth incarnate if i remember right.

(ps, be on the lookout, i'm thinking up a new fun area for players. hehehe)
 
Squall True Lionheart said:
Do you have a "Adamant's Secret Strategy Book" or something similar that?:P

Also I need every book related to your Paladin Knights if I want to link the new castle to their story. ;)

That or I can take one day to read every single book you left there....wow...:| that's going to be a long day...>_<
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Adamant never beat the Incarnates. But I did... ;) Trick, powerful spells. Like Death.
 
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