In the beginning...

[Howl]

I just had to put this here, because it's a funny thought I had. ^.^



Do you guys remember that episode of Futurama where Leila finds out that Nibbler is part of a race of super aliens - the first race in fact to ever exist?

Now, supposedly every FF game is set in the same Universe (with the exception of FFX, which for some reason takes place in a world called "Spira" and has no mention of moogles anywhere).

I propose that moogles are in fact the superior nibbler-esque race that has been around since the creation of Gaia...

Discuss...

 

[Dean Winchester]

Well yes, but I don't remember seeing Moogles in FFVIII. I am not too sure though, it's been a long time since I last played VIII.

Anyhow, we couldn't probably set the Moogles as the first race due to the fact that each FF is a different chapter, but they are not sequels at all, except for X-2.

For example, in FFXII the ancient race are the Ocurria.

If we were to set the most ancient of beings, then I say it would be the summons since they do make appearances in most FF games.

 

[Tminus31]

perhaps they all take place in parallel universes with the exception of X, X-2 and XII

 

[Dean Winchester]

perhaps they all take place in parallel universes with the exception of X, X-2 and XII

That sounds a lot like the movie "The One" and the whole concept of a "Multiverse" instead of having a "Universe".

I still believe the summons/aeons/espers/GF's are among the oldest of races.

 

[blkmage]

I could see this, all the FF bosses have been puppets controlled by the moogles. The real threat to the final fantasy verse.

 

[Soul Saver]

perhaps they all take place in parallel universes with the exception of X, X-2 and XII

Exactly. Gilgamesh appears to be able to teleport from universe to universe, via some sort of cosmic inter-dimensional portal, somewhat morphing his form in each universe. Spira could even be a precursor to Gaia. Somehow, perhaps the farplane becomes the lifestream. Remember how someone mentions ShinRa in X-2? Somehow, the old Spiran civilizations become known as the Cetra/Ancients, and have some sort of mystical power. The moogles are in fact from outer space, and come to inhabit the world between the events in Spira and then the shift in land mass which eventually becomes known as Gaia. Many hundreds of thousands of years pass, leading to the events in Crisis Core.

 

[Rockman X]

Exactly. Gilgamesh appears to be able to teleport from universe to universe, via some sort of cosmic inter-dimensional portal, somewhat morphing his form in each universe.

The Void, it's called

Spira could even be a precursor to Gaia. Somehow, perhaps the farplane becomes the lifestream. Remember how someone mentions ShinRa in X-2? Somehow, the old Spiran civilizations become known as the Cetra/Ancients, and have some sort of mystical power.

No. That stupid theory was started by the Ultimania guides, which aren't even canon. Square Enix just had people make up new crap about games already made for their new guides. The "ShinRa" mentioned in X-2 is a character named Shinra. It was just them throwing in a little nod to FF7. And it's not the same planet.

The moogles are in fact from outer space, and come to inhabit the world between the events in Spira and then the shift in land mass which eventually becomes known as Gaia. Many hundreds of thousands of years pass, leading to the events in Crisis Core.

LOLWUT? Where the hell did you hear that? That's fucking classic

In IX, moogles are faeries, so they probably have been around a good while. In other games they seem to just be another race inhabiting the game's respective world. I don't think any of them could be considered "nibbler-esque" though.

 

[Fusionist]

What about Goblins? Aren't they, like, in every FF game?

 

[Soul Saver]

Goblins? What "goblins"?

<_< >_>

And I came up with that bit about Moogles being from outer-space.

 

[Fusionist]

Wait. What about the summon monsters? Even if you can't summon them in the earlier FF games, they still existed, right?

 

[Soul Saver]

Yes, but in a different form, perhaps.

 

[Blue Link]

Goblins! Y'know, usually the very first monster you encounter in the old FF days but I would think that chocobos would be older. They've been in almost every title. Plus, they are birds and birds are practically descendants of dinosaurs.

 

[Platinum_Lies]

The FFVII compilation and FFX saga are the only Final Fantasy chapters that have been stated to be in the same universe. And this is from the creators of those two game sets, so it is pretty much canon at this point. But Gaia and Spira are two different worlds seperated by many centuries (Shinra makes mention in FFX2 about harnessing the limitless farplane energy but states that it is many generations off).

The only other final fantasy games to take place in the same world are those of Ivalice.