Homosexual marriage - do you agree?

Savior, stop spamming, please.

99, I can't understand/believe you're comparing homosexuality to such things as prostitution, pornography, phone sex, etc. Honestly, what is the link? How do you think homosexuality even remotely causes as much 'harm' as pornography and those other things? Homosexuality doesn't cause harm at all.
Homosexuals have no control over how they are, just as heterosexuals can't control how they are either. It's as much 'choice' as how tall you are or which hand is your dominant. So how can some people possibly hold others accountable for what they can't control?

Most people eat meat, but there are vegetarians who refrain from doing so. Little weird, little different, no? Should we kill or treat the vegetarians differently because they're not going along with the majority?

Some people eat dead insects. Little weird, little different, no? Should we kill them or treat them differently because it defies most people's tastes - most think it's disgusting? It's a good source of protein actually. Can't say I've tried any but hey lol. For some cultures/areas, insects are valued like cheeseburgers to America.

So is being a vegetarian or insect-eater wrong?

Look around you. Our friends have characteristics and talents that are similar to and different from our own. Some things, I'm sure you'll find, seem outrageous to us, and we conclude that we'll never do such a crazy thing, or find it extremely strange and 'abnormal.' "Bloody hell, you enjoy jumping off cliffs in the summer?" "You really did win that eating contest with 50 hot dogs...?" "You seriously spent 30 hours straight trying to beat that game?"

Anyone pay attention to the Guinness Book of World Records? Really, take two seconds to check it out, see what you find:

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/default.aspx

To say the least, some of those records granted are quite "out-of-the-ordinary." But it doesn't make them wrong. It makes them unique, with a distinct sense of identity.

I know you said it was okay not to answer these, but I will.
would i be dissapointed or kinda bothered by my son marrying another man, or my daughter marrying another woman.
No. My son or daughter has the right to live out their own lifestyle. As a parent, my job is to prepare my child for the world and teach them how to survive and lead a respectable life. A good parent wants their child to be happy. If another man makes my son happy, or another woman makes my daughter happy, I'm perfectly alright with that. Just let my child be happy.
do i want to say that these things are ok just so i dont hurt anyones feelings and so i dont become an outcast in a society that says if i dont agree with them im a cold hearted stubborn static minded conservative prick?
Of course not. I'm independent and have my own set of thoughts in my mind. But then I must ask the question - do you say that homosexuality is wrong because most others say it is, and you want to avoid a controversial argument or the possible chance that you'll be viewed as a 'lover of homosexuals' and 'soft-hearted'? (I.e. QuicksilverD has already said he doesn't like homosexuals in part to women viewing him as "more feminine.")
am i ok that many wemon trash themselves on the street and use their bodies like an atm because their to lazy or unwilling to apply themseves another way?
am i ok with wemon who squirm and shake on stage for the same reasons.
am i ok that its legal for wemon to be prostitues in a movie and get dubbed with the tital "pornstar" to make it all ok?
Alright, these few questions just scream sexist. You're downright downgrading women, saying they're just apathetic and throw away their lives. You don't know their story, you don't know the reasons behind what they're doing and why they do it. A little girl doesn't grow up with the ambition of stripping and more for horny men. There's a lot of potential in life, but there's also a lot of discrimination, oppression, and injustice.

These cause children and their families to die by starvation and other things, because society won't let them get what they need due to some prejudiced people holding them back. They turn to desperate measures just to get some food into their bodies, otherwise it's another cold night by the dumpster - maybe someone will throw away their unfinished meal.

I understand that this scenario doesn't apply to all, but it applies to some. And there aren't just female prostitutes, you seem to be forgetting this. What of those who pay these prostitutes too?
would i be so "OK" with it if it was my brother, sister, mother, father, son or daughter.
If someone close to me resorted to being a prostitute, I'd try my best to help them into a more successful and healthy environment. Being a prostitute is dangerous after all, what with STDs and violent temporary partners. Homosexuality though, offers none of these dangers, therefore I don't feel the need to intervene. It's their life, and they may do with it as they wish. It's their choice in the end - how they want to live out their life. I can't make decisions for them, it's not my place to. Again it comes down to the question of happiness.
and its a snowball gaining momentum and were all just off to the side watching it and giggling LIKE FU(+!@G SCHOOL GIRLS!!!!!
*sighs* Again, sexism. Why be so closed-minded?
 
would i be dissapointed or kinda bothered by my son marrying another man, or my daughter marrying another woman. No. My son or daughter has the right to live out their own lifestyle. As a parent, my job is to prepare my child for the world and teach them how to survive and lead a respectable life. A good parent wants their child to be happy. If another man makes my son happy, or another woman makes my daughter happy, I'm perfectly alright with that. Just let my child be happy.


well said , my thoughts exactly
 
Well i personally dont care if gay people get married. Why should only straight people go through hell?? lol JK.. Seriously though to each his own, just don't hit on me and i'm o.k.
 
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Well i personally dont care if gay people get married. Why should only straight people go through hell?? lol JK.. Seriously though to each his own, just don't hit on me and i'm o.k.

Well is not like if we would taking their right to get marriage, they can still do so, but only with people of the opposite sex :lol:

Why? You speak as if homosexuals are some sort of impurity; some sort of disease. Are you afraid for some reason, or what?

Why is a dull question, some people (like me) just don't like gay people, in some cases homophoby is in such develop that the simple notion of a gay man around you disgust you so much that you feel like vomit, not saying that being such a person is right just telling you how it is for some people.

off topic, Tritis I noticed that you just used me as an example in one of your post, nothing wrong with that I just can't believe that there are still people in this thread that are actually playing attention and reading other members posts, if we had a reputation system I would give you points for that
 
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Well is not like if we would taking their right to get marriage, they can still do so, but only with people of the opposite sex :lol:



Why is a dull question, some people (like me) just don't like gay people, in some cases homophoby is in such develop that the simple notion of a gay man around you disgust you so much that you feel like vomit (not me)
Exactly the same as me :)
 
Savior..I am not happy - you know that this is an area for debate, and normal members have even asked you politely to stop spamming - if there is no improvement, you will be given a larger warning.
 
I see so is Judge Rulia now? eh Lisa? listen if you want them to stop, instead of giving warnings you could give infractions, or say "from now on, any breaking of the rules will give you an infraction" not that I'm telling you how to do your job, just giving you a small suggestion, if one is not tough enough others eat you alive.

And Savior don’t take it personally just that next time try posting something more than one line post or something like “I agree” because people from these forums like to get to get on your nerves for these kind of inconsequential things, thrust me I’m talking from personal experience.

When one person gives only their opinions the others simply don’t care about it, especially in a topic when most people agree on something and you simply disagree with them without giving them “unbreakable” and “undeniable” arguments they all start attacking and flaming you back, to give you an example og this: when you are in an xbox forum and you say something like
The PS3 is the most technological and powerful console this generation
what do you think is gonna happened? you get banned that’s what happens.

And this is why my firsts posts in this thread were so long, as I was trying to defend a point of view that was contrary to that of most people here, but as you may have noticed my post have recently become lest and lest developed, that’s for two reason that is not really time to discuss.

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Could anyone tell me how is homosexuality different from any other form of sexual disorientation, like pederasty, pedophilia, incest or even Zoophilia (Sex with animals)? Cause if we would allow one, why not the others?
 
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Can I just add something here ..... I think everyone is entitled to their opinion but I do wish that people would NOT bring religion into this because when they do try to quote the scripture they fall over their own feet.

Marriage is not now or never has been by "gods rule" men and woman only ... how do i know this ? because if it was provable that god had said it to then the government would never have overturned the religions' rule and allowed homosexual marriage to go through.
Also people say god made man and woman not man and man ..... WRONG !! The first person on the Planet was MALE in the form of Luciferous the second was Adam and the third Eve.
As I said before the CHURCH LEADERS have admitted to altering scripture over years of translation to suit their rule, nothing more.
Also " AND GOD CREATED EVERYONE IN HIS IMAGE" each with a reason for being why they are who they are how they are when they are, all pre-determined by fate! Humans are the ones who have it wrong, remember what tasting the forbidden fruit did? Gave knowledge and free will... we took those gifts and twisted them. I believe as "God" said ... we should never have had them, then the world might well be a place where ALL humans may live as they are created to do so
 
^^^ I know Religion is garbage, listen if we stop mention it, maybe it will disappear as we all want it to ^^^

I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question.

Could anyone tell me how is homosexuality different from any other form of sexual disorientation, like pederasty, pedophilia, incest or even Zoophilia (Sex with animals)? Cause if we would allow one, why not the others?
 
Wow, that's real nice dragging down homosexuality to something as sick and distgusting as what you've put up there. I understand you are bitter towards it, but to relate it to something like..pedophilia?

That's really crossing the line - all homosexuality is - a person falling in love with the someone of the same gender. You can't help who you fall in love with.

That's why it's allowed - you really want to know why the other forms of "sexual disorientation" aren't allowed?

I don't think I really have to explain myself tbh. Homosexuality, claim it as a disorientation, but don't put it on the same level as something like peadophilia.

I also do give infractions - I'm just annoyed that people continue spamming despite them. Savior, you made quite a few posts that could have been delt with better.
 
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What a let down Lisa, I was expecting a better answer from you, basically what you just said was Pedophilia, Pederasty and Zoophilia sucks and are disgusting that’s why their not legal. Did you happen to know that 50 years ago homosexuality was also illegal, like these; as a matter of fact it is still illegal in some countries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:World_homosexuality_laws.png

So how come it is any different? Why shouldn’t we allow people to marry kids, their sisters and their dogs? What is more wrong with that than with marrying another guy (when you are a guy) or another woman when you are a woman

Because the ones mentioned early are more disgusting? Guess what? For me they are all disgusting, I would puke if for some reason I would see a man giving a blow job to another man, is just disgusting.

So how and why is it different? How? Why?


How is it any different if a man falls in love with another man than when:

-A grown man falls in love with a much younger boy or girl?
-A man that falls in love with his own blood sister?
-A man that falls in love with a cow?

Why should be punish people for those action when apparently we can’t help who we fall in love with? And don’t play me the card of “adult-kid, human-animal” is not the way is suppose to be, unnatural, outrageous, whatever, cause male-male and female-female is not that different.

Now don’t misinterpret what I’m saying find all forms of sexual disorientation to be really repulsive, my point is, by allowing one, the others may eventually see a future as well, nobody wants that, do we?

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I know some people will feel offended by this post, but instead of flamming me how about working a decent reply for my question, one that force me to shut my mouth
 
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I'm so freakin' against it.


THE MAIN REASON FOR MARRIAGE IS TO HAVE KIDS AND KEEP THE LIFE CYCLE GOING...


IF YOU BOTH HAVE WANG WANGS YOU CANT HAVE KIDS
 
Could anyone tell me how is homosexuality different from any other form of sexual disorientation, like pederasty, pedophilia, incest or even Zoophilia (Sex with animals)? Cause if we would allow one, why not the others?
Homosexuality is not "sexual disorientation" - it's a choice that an individual has made. It's not hardwired into the brain, it's an informed, moral decision that a human has taken. I believe this point has been established in the earlier posts.

I'm so freakin' against it.

THE MAIN REASON FOR MARRIAGE IS TO HAVE KIDS AND KEEP THE LIFE CYCLE GOING...

IF YOU BOTH HAVE WANG WANGS YOU CANT HAVE KIDS
How astonishingly perceptive.
 
Homosexuality is not "sexual disorientation" - it's a choice that an individual has made. It's not hardwired into the brain, it's an informed, moral decision that a human has taken. I believe this point has been established in the earlier posts.

If it is just a choice then there is no much point in homosexual marriage, wouldn’t you agree? After all it is something that was never meant to happen in the first place, so if gay people would like to get marry would it be logical for them to stop being gay and follow the standards of society for marriage?

Totally off topic I’m glad to see you around Riku, I thought you had left the forum for good
 
If it is just a choice then there is no much point in homosexual marriage, wouldn’t you agree?
You ALSO make a choice to be heterosexual. "There's not much point in heterosexual marriage, don't you agree?"

After all it is something that was never meant to happen in the first place,
Says who?

so if gay people would like to get marry would it be logical for them to stop being gay and follow the standards of society for marriage?
No, because then they would not be homosexual. Unless I've mistaken your point.

Totally off topic I’m glad to see you around Riku, I thought you had left the forum for good
Nah, I had always intended to come back at some point.
 
It wasn't a flame, I was just basically describing my thoughts in response to the post you made. It came across as rather crude - to put it alongside something such as peadophilia, is in my opinion, unacceptable. Peadophiles - they molest children, rape, sometimes kill them.

Homosexuality..is not on the same level as something like Peadophilia.

Intercourse with animals - sexual intercourse with other creatures which werent designed to physically interact with humans, and which is also forced sexual contact, seeing as an animal generally doesn't understand what's going on, is an extreme form of abuse

Incest - what's wrong with marrying/having intercourse with children? Inbreeding causes an awful lot of problems, and to have an incestual relationship with someone a lot younger then you can cause emotional scarring to someone who thought you of as a father/mother/etc. Especially, if the younger person involved is young also.

If an older person falls in someone above the legal age of consent, then it is not an issue - the younger person would probably be of the right age themselves to decide how they feel about an older person in a relationship.

With homosexuality, it's just two humans, same gender couples, unable to procreate with each other, but able to love their partner just like a straight couple would. Understanding your upbringing, I can understand your distaste towards such acts of homosexuality.

But even straight sex acts of love can distgust me - something as simple as passionate snogging in a public area makes me go "ick!"

Not saying you can't kiss someone..but I don't like it when couples proceed to each others faces off.

Sorry if I did come across as..flamey ;_;
 
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