Echos of Autism - Asperger's Syndrome

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Aztec Triogal

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It's a new ABC program series for their news. Anyhow, if you don't know anything about autism, it is defined by the World Health Organization and the American Psychological Association as a "developmental disability that results from a disorder of the human central nervous system. It is diagnosed using specific criteria for impairments to social interaction, communication, interests, imagination and activities." It basically means you have complete usage of all of your five senses but do not have ability to communicate with other people. It's basically like you live on another plain of existance. It is a very real and serious disorder.

HOWEVER, there is a related diagnosis called "Asperger's Syndrome" (pronounced ass-burger). This is the "horrible related disease" they did a piece on today. They went on and on about how poor children got picked on during their childhood for having ass-burgers. lol That cracked me up everytime they said that, btw. They continued on to say how most of these brave brave children continued on to lead good successful lives. How wonderful for them!

And what are the symptoms of this aweful disorder? Well unlike autism, which is defined by a person having normal or superior intelligence, but being completely devoid of any manner of communication, people who suffer from ass-burgers can communicate perfectly. There is no communication delay, as it is described on several websites I checked out. The symptoms typically show up in the early teenage years and stay until the mid-20s. They include things like staying up late, being lazy, and getting stressed out easily. In other words, bullshit symptoms typical of anyone in their youth.

If you haven't realized by now, I think the "disorder" is a complete crock. Autism is real. Ass-burgers is bullshit. It's just an excuse. It's the new ritalin... give it to every child in America to have a failsafe excuse at every turn.

So Aspergers, real or not?
 
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i have asperger's syndrome and i tell you it's not easy two year's ago i was about to kill myself no joke i couldn't leave my houes without faneting becuse i got stressed when people just looked at me but i did get help now i'm in a band but i won't be able to go on stage
they had to find me something to keep me going and it's final fantasy i need to play it every day to keep going i admit i feel bad for people with
autism but asperger's isn't easy each night i only get five hours sleep and i can't talk to a goup of people without needing to go away
but i'm not saying i'm crazy i mean i'v got friends and as i said i'm in a band
and you said it goes in your 20's i'm going to have it my hole life
so i say it real
 
Mon Dieu.

And what are the symptoms of this aweful disorder? Well unlike autism, which is defined by a person having normal or superior intelligence, but being completely devoid of any manner of communication, people who suffer from ass-burgers can communicate perfectly. There is no communication delay, as it is described on several websites I checked out.
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I'm not picking up on you, just the statement :] How, exactly, is Ass-Burgers even related to Autism? I truly can't see how there's even a possible correlation between the two conditions.


The symptoms typically show up in the early teenage years and stay until the mid-20s. They include things like staying up late, being lazy, and getting stressed out easily. In other words, bullshit symptoms typical of anyone in their youth.
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I'd hazzard a guess that practically every teenager I know has Ass-Burgers disease, then. For goodness sake; what typical teenager doesn't want to stay up late? How many of us have ever been lazy? Teenagers generally have exams coming up, the pressures of society, getting jobs and just growing up all stress me out - big time.

There'll be a disease soon enough making up an excuse for eating at abnormal times of the day.
*facepalm*

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It would seem Wiki has some interesting information regarding this. There's a lot more to the diagnosis than just being lazy, staying up late and feeling stressed. I'll round my post off here, though.
 
Aspergers is considered a disorder related to Autism. Like I said, I can't really say I think it's everything people cracked it up to be. If you seriously have aspergers, you probably just have a mild form of autism. If you just have aspergers or a light form of it, you're probably just socially inept. And yea, there's more to it than staying up late and that kind of thing... but nothing severe.

People with aspergers cannot understand "the subtexts of social interaction, and may lack the ability to communicate their own emotional state, resulting in well-meaning remarks that may offend, or finding it hard to know what is "acceptable". In other words, they're the guy the says the right thing at the wrong time. Hell, the majority of people on the face of the earth don't understand subtexts. I'm lucky if half the people I talk to understand what I'm saying on the surface, yet alone the hidden context. Any guy isn't great with understanding his own emotional state (and I'm not sure women are much better at understanding... just more emotional). And aspergerites are not good at being sensitive and trying to say sweet things, again... probably just means they're a guy.
 
I'm going to look into this a little more before I give a real answer to the topic.

However, from what I've heard so far, I'd have to say that I agree with Aztec here that it is just another term "they" (whoever "they" is) have created that describes almost everyone, especially teenagers. I mean, come one, being lazy, staying up late, getting little sleep, having mild social anxiety, etc. Get real. From what I've gotten out of this thread, asperger's syndrome is just the new way to say human, much like A.D.D. is the new way to say adolescent, and A.D.H.D. is the new way to say child. All of these new diagnoses just make me sick. As a matter of fact, can you say "new thread"?
 
if everyone said asperger's is just the way teens act and didn't care i would be dead right now and not getting help
 
Asperger's syndrome is considered part of the 'autism spectrum', and is synonymous with High Functioning Autism (HFA). It is, contrary to your words, not a 'crock': The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) recognizes it as a separate disorder.

Aztec, as for your argument, the criteria for your definition is flawed. I would advise you to do the required due diligence before classifying an entire disorder as 'bullshit'.

Also, I would advise anyone to research the mercury ([SIZE=-1]thimerosal[/SIZE]) in the vaccines which is causing all this. Also note that the provision in the 2005 Department of Defense Appropriations bill basically gave vaccine makers blanket immunity for their recklessness, so 1 in 150 in this country got screwed over...can't wait to leave this corrupt shitty country!
 
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It can be recognized all it wants. lol It doesn't mean it's actually anything at all. If someone has serious symptoms, my guess is it's a lighter form of autism. Aspergers is more of an excuse than it is a disorder.
 
You say one thing out of the left side of your mouth, yet refute it out the other. Autism is an entire spectrum of disorders, Asperger's included, thus why it is also called High-Functioning Autism (HFA). You have chosen to create a parallel system of definitions, separating autism, the 'very real and serious disorder' you spoke of from Aspergers, a subdivision thereof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism#Types_of_autism).

Again, I caution you do to the required due diligence on these things.
 
They are all part of the same spectrum but not the same thing. Aspergers is not autism. You cannot have autism and have it not be noticable. Even the lightest cases effect your every day life. Aspergers is classified as a form of autism. But it's just a classification in my eyes. The symptoms warrant more of an excuse than a disorder.
 
They have a diagnosis for every little thing now. Everytime I turn on the news, it seems like there's some new disorder for some new problem... that doesn't even seem that problematic to me. It's just another excuse for teens to be emo. People are confused and have a hard time understanding the world as a whole. That's understandable. But that doesn't mean you go out and create a new disorder like Aspergers to excuse your self from everyday troubles.

 
if you someone close to you had asperger's would you take care of them or would you treat them like all people
 
So you are saying that Aspergers' classification as autism is faulty, basically. I am not quite sure you're playing with a full deck; you should research the causes and symptoms from a medical perspective, as the symptoms for Autism (AS included) typically manifest themselves earlier (about 2).

This from DSM IV under Asperger's:

During the first three years of life, there can be no clinically significant delay in cognitive development as curiosity about the existing environment or the acquisition of age appropriate learning skills, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction)

Note the preclusion of social interaction. This criteria is used to differentiate it from other Autism spectrum disorders as well as other neurological disorders. Another criteria:

Significant impairment in important areas of functioning

Surely the symptoms you have described (laziness, staying up late, &c) are precluded from this definition from a reasonable medical perspective...

Yet again I caution you to do further due diligence in this matter, as it is glaringly apparent my previous warning has gone unheeded.
 
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During the first three years of life, there can be no clinically significant delay in cognitive development as curiosity about the existing environment or the acquisition of age appropriate learning skills, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction)
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lol I really don't get your point there. All that stated was that all those conditions don't exist in young people affected with "autism". That doesn't say anything about what they do have. Your only remark to that is that they have "Significant impairment in important areas of functioning". And that's my arguement... that these important areas of functioning... are basically bullshit areas. I think they just have the normal difficulties growing up, just like everyone else, so they classify themselves with Aspergers to make themselves feel better. It's just an excuse.

And quit doing that due dilligance thing. Sheesh.
 
so is it bullshit symptom that people with Asperger's can't go out of their house without faneting is it a bullshit symptom that they can only sleep short amounts of time every night is it a bullshit symptom that unless asperger's people keep their minds activie they'll get deprest
 
You have mis-characterized my argument, and frankly it is best I leave you to be entitled to your mis-interpretation of the matter. Have a nice life, and hopes you don't ever enter the medical profession.
 
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so is it bullshit symptom that people with Asperger's can't go out of their house without faneting is it a bullshit symptom that they can only sleep short amounts of time every night is it a bullshit symptom that unless asperger's people keep their minds activie they'll get deprest
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I wouldn't call them bullshit symptoms. I'd just call them common "symptoms" that many people carry. I think what Aztec is getting at here is simply that Asperger's appears to be nothing more than a name given to common characteristics of a large group of people. In other words, Asperger's is less of a syndrome, and more of a part of growing up for a lot of us. I think a better way to word it would be to say that Asperger's syndrome appears to be another way to describe puberty. And, I'd have to agree (once again, I still am going solely on the symptoms and definitions posted in this thread).
 
There's this kid in my class, who has Aspergers. Not to be harsh but I don't think it's that big of a deal. He always uses it as an excuse because many kids in my class make fun of him. I'll admit I do too but not too much, only when he really pisses me off. He uses it as an excuse as i said earlier, so I always ask him, "if you're able to realize you have this Asperger syndrome, then why do still act out like that?" He always tells me to mind my own business or beeswax or some other stuff like that so I get really confused about how he can know about his problem and not do anything about it. I probably shouldn't even mind his actions because of his disease but it just puzzles me how someone can realize something they have and not be able to do anything about it, or at least try to further improve how they act in public.
 
Actually that is a very accurate representation of my feelings. And good wording. lol Thanks, btw... got caught up in the debating and kinda failed to express that. lol
 
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