Awards Question

[Aztec Triogal]

Can you give a person the same award twice? The reason I ask is it really matters for Birthweek. Any awards given out this year FFF Prince, Biggest Perv, etc. won't act as separate awards if that person has already won it in a prior birthweek. Also, it means that anyone that wins an award this year, pretty much won't get anything for winning it next year except the general pride of winning something.

Just curious.

 

[Bambi]

I don't think we are including birthweek awards anymore...it's still pretty much WIP and just throwing around afew ideas

 

[Aztec Triogal]

Why wouldn't you include birthweek? Other than a few other awards, what would be the point of the system?

 

[Davey Gaga]

Birthweek Awards are more social contributions than they are achievements - on top of the clutter that would inevitably appear for more 'popular' members, it was far too strenuous a task for the Admins for something that we didn't really consider necessary in the first place. I'll try and find the appropriate posts and report back.

 

[Bambi]

Like I said, WIP. As soon as it's all worked out, you will know

there were far too many awards for Birthweek, and the thread its self is pretty much recognition. Otherwise, whats the point in the awards if they are given out willy nilly for things liek being the biggest spammer?

 

[Davey Gaga]

Here we go:

Alright guys, how about we just remove the Birthweek category? I mean I know I already started on it, but continuing it will be such a long and tedious process, not to mention that to new members, it may seem like we're just handing a bunch of awards to members because naturally, they wouldn't know what Birthweek is. I know it's only for recognition-purposes, but I also don't think the birthweek awards idea is such a good idea afterall since the awards should only be treated as something that a member worked hard for - an achievement from a contest and tournaments. Plus, I'm really thinking of how it will clutter up the page and look so...unappealing due to the number of awards showcased.

I mean we have the Birthweek from 2007 and 2008...then combine all those. >_> I think the 'list' of who the winners were in a post-fashion should be more than adequate. This is going a little overboard...




2007 Winners:

Topic of the Year - Can You Prove The Moon Exists
Spammer of the Year - Nephany/Rhea/Booger
Best Thread Maker - Rydia
Best Quality Poster - BustaMo
Best Avatar - Judge Rulia
Best Signature - Aerith Gainsborough
Best Username - Julius Argexis
Most Aztecish Member - Fields
Sexiest Member - Mitsuki
Most Dedicated Member - BustaMo
Most Artistic Member - Nephany
Most Knowledgeable About FF - Judge Rulia
Most Helpful Member - BustaMo
Site Clown - Aztec Triogal
Site Flirt - Aztec Triogal
Most Hyper Member - Rydia
Best Site Contributor - Belazor
Most Missed Member - Lady Aerith
Best RPGer - Julius Argexis
Person You Wish Would Post More - Xehanort Nobdoy
Friendliest Member - Aerith Gainsborough
FFF King - Saix
FFF Queen - Lady Aerith
FFF Prince - BustaMo
FFF Princess - Mitsuki




2008 Results

FFF KingSaix
Queen of FFFLady Aerith
Prettiest female Cerridwen
Hottest maleSaix
Hottest female Bei Bei
Most handsome male member Saix
Best username Manbearpig
Most memorable thread KourtneyVT09
Biggest shoutbox whore Addleboy and Fusionist
Best double act Fusionist + Addleboy
Most charming member Mitsuki
Friendliest member General Beatrix
Most dramatic member Koytco
Most knowledgeable member Angelus Mortis / Karl Friedrich Gauß
Most quotable member Bambi
Funniest member Bambi
Most dedicated member Lady Aerith
Best pwnage posts Vengeful Ronin
Most entertaining member Bambi
Best debater Erythritol
Most improved member Smash, Amelia, FFGuy and Darkstar
Mr. Popular General Beatrix
Best RPGer Saix and Gabranth
Biggest post whore Julius Aurelius and Bambi
Biggest pervert Bambi
Most down to earth Mitsuki
Best signatures Derek
Biggest spammer Bambi
Smartest member Angelus Mortis / Karl Friedrich Gauß
Person you wish would post more Erythritol
Miss Popular Bambi
Worst thread Internet censorship as a form of brainwashing
Member you'd like to get to know better Mercurial
Worst staff colour Red / Yellow
Best staff colour Admin blue
Best quality poster Karl Friedrich Gauß / Angelus Mortis
Best artist Karl Friedrich Gauß / Angelus Mortis
FFF milf Lady Aerith
Best thread creator General Beatrix
Best Writer Faith
Best RPer Julius
Three musketeers RPG Directors
Best site contributor Decado
Site flirt Decado
Best avatars Derek
Best graphic artistDerek
Best staff themeAgent Smith and Spice Girls




This is not even 1/4 of it...and it took over an hour to do.

I'll agree with this since Birthweek awards are all "recognition/opinion" awards rather than something fought after and earned. Sure I mean you try to earn to be known as the Most Dedicated Member, and Most FF Knowledgeable and all, but like said, it's a lot of awards and it's going to the same people in many circumstances.

I say we keep it to Competitions and such that are earned and handed out as prizes.

Whereas I see the possibilities of the award system.
Don't you think you are going slightly overboard?

I agree on some of them, but I don't think that members that "were" anything before the award system should get much.
Whereas it might seem cruel, I do agree that some of them did a good job, but an award is earned AFTER the award is created.
As an award is made, one should not get it just because one were the winner of last year, it should go to the winner of this year... etc.

It would be like, say in any Olympic branch, a 4th place medal is suddenly made.
Does this mean that everyone that were on the 4th place 1-8 years ago should get said prize?
Or should it be reserved to the ones that earn it AFTER the award is made?

Im in for the latter, as I think it will sort of draw the 'uniqueness' down if they are being handed out to everyone that have done the same thing in the past.
The past is just what it is, the past, look to the future and the now.

Again, this might seem harsh, nad perhaps even egotisical, but this is my take on it.

Awards should not be handed out so frequently, for it makes it loss the whole purpose of even aiming to obtain one if they are going to be given so easily, ergo, we should come to an agreement on the time limit for granting such privileges.

Happy? xD

 

[Aztec Triogal]

Yea, and I appreciate the thorough follow-up. I'd still like an answer to the technical question I posed, just to satisfy my curiosity... and I'd just like to state that I think the logic used is a little misguided. I understand it's a lot of work but no one expects it to happen overnight.

I guess I'm just having a hard time distinguishing between an FFF award for birthweek and an FFF award in general. They seem like the same general concept. I get that Biggest Spammer might not be an actual achievement, but seeing as how we're a forum "Best Contributor" makes much more sense as an achievement than someone who made a banner. Not that it's wrong to credit them for that achievement but I see less relevency in that than I do in award for being a good poster or being respected on here.

And just as another quick point, my minor bit of insight into the subject allows me to know that some of the hesitation to use awards for a wide base of issues was because mods and past mods were lobbying for awards for their current and past positions. Not that those aren't achievements in themselves but mods definitely get a lot of recognition already... and being a past mod on here is no big achievement (no offense). So in short, I agree with the position not to give awards to mods... but not to limit the scope of awards as much as it apparently has been.

I also know that some of the people who won awards in the past are not nearly as loved as they once were... and some people take exception to them getting credited with Birthweek Awards. I don't blame them for that opinion but it seems small minded.

To be completely truthful, I can't say I'm really very passionate about the issue. If nothing changes, I'm really pretty alright with that. I just can't honestly say that I agree with the logic that was used to come to the conclusions to exclude birthweek.