Akuma vs. Sephiroth

[Nikkolas]

Okay, Crystal, hypothetical question. If Sephiroth achieved his full potential, would he be a threat in other universes (Ex. Marvel, DC, etc.)?

No.

He'd be annihilated by any top tier hero with ease.

God forbid Superman wants him gone.

can be stupidly fast(like Omega Weiss and Chaos Vincent that were fighting like the DBZ characters)

No. He's bullet-time speed at best. ALl he showed = all he can do.

I won't give him speeds he never showed nor said he could do.

can move a friggin planet across the universe,

Never did it. Was defeated by an emo punk.

Post-Nibel Sephiroth is in a completely different league than Akuma.

Can he destroy islands with one punch?

Can he send peoples souls to Hell?

I remember him having a swordfight and losing. That's about it.

Hell, Akuma's most powerful attack is said to be capable of destroying an entire continent by SFIII.

Seph was defeated by Cloud's Omnislash. That attack is not island-sinking level. So, Akuma destroys him with one punch.

 

[Grimoire Valentine]

Superman vs Sephiroth? Hmmmmm... my money is on Superman.

 

[Nikkolas]

That's the point.

Even if Seph achieved his goals, he'd really be nothing to the top tiers of Marvel and DC Comics.

 

[alf]

i say akuma because he is a dog

 

[The Crystal]

Okay, Crystal, hypothetical question. If Sephiroth achieved his full potential, would he be a threat in other universes (Ex. Marvel, DC, etc.)? Just curious.

A threat to all Marvel or DC universes? No. But of course he would be a threat to some heros, like any other villain is. Depend of what hero we are talking about.

The problem with AC Seph, is that we don't know his full potential. We only have an idea of it, because of what other characters did. For example, we have beings in FFVII that can destroy everything in the world, and beings that can fight in "DBZ speed". Because of what the creators stated(that there is nothing above Sephiroth, that they will never create a character stronger than him, etc) we know that he is at least, in the same level of these beings. And because of his feats(corrupting and controlling the source of magic, telekinesis, illusions, etc) we know some things he can do. But we don't know everything he could do in AC, because he choosed to "play" instead of really fight.

Also, I'd give a slight edge to Akuma, I think he destroyed a island with his fist or something. PN (Pre-Nibilhim) Sephiroth, eh.... I don't remember him being THAT strong, other than defeating a full-grown dragon with his sword with ease. Though he has the speed advantage. I think.

I don't remember of Sephiroth having many speed feats in BC. It's better to wait for CC to see them. And if Akuma did that, he is stronger than PN Seph for sure.

Talking about PN Sephiroth, this is a "sparring" between him and two other 1st class SOLDIERs: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sqlHCAFjGLk



Nikkolas, what we saw in FFVII or AC, is not everything. This is why Ultimania Omega and Reunion Files exist. To explain what wasn't explained in the game and movie. I suggest you to read them.

 

[Nikkolas]

I have.

But it doesn't really matter.

Sephiroth with full control of the Lifestream and magic LOST fair and square to Cloud's attack. Get it? He was destroyed in his most powerful form by an attack inferior to what Akuma can do.

Tell me how moving a planet, which he NEVER did, will help him against a guy who can send his soul to Hell?

How will black clouds and some speed help him against fists that can destory islands when people with inferior abilities have bested him time and time again?

 

[The Crystal]

I have.

But it doesn't really matter.

Sephiroth with full control of the Lifestream and magic LOST fair and square to Cloud's attack. Get it? He was destroyed in his most powerful form by an attack inferior to what Akuma can do.

Tell me how moving a planet, which he NEVER did, will help him against a guy who can send his soul to Hell?

How will black clouds and some speed help him against fists that can destory islands when people with inferior abilities have bested him time and time again?

I could answer that, but i will not. I just give a suggestion to you, because i thought you didn't read the books, that's all. Don't think i will argue with you about this.
Anyone that know you in the internet(in many forums), know it's useless to argue with you. You don't accept anything that is different from your opinion, and insult anyone that disagree with you.

I will not waste my time.

 

[Vradica]

No.

He'd be annihilated by any top tier hero with ease.

God forbid Superman wants him gone.



No. He's bullet-time speed at best. ALl he showed = all he can do.

I won't give him speeds he never showed nor said he could do.



Never did it. Was defeated by an emo punk.



Can he destroy islands with one punch?

Can he send peoples souls to Hell?

I remember him having a swordfight and losing. That's about it.

Hell, Akuma's most powerful attack is said to be capable of destroying an entire continent by SFIII.

Seph was defeated by Cloud's Omnislash. That attack is not island-sinking level. So, Akuma destroys him with one punch.

You're forgetting one thing. Capcom game! Akuma's got infinites!

 

[Nikkolas]

Anyone that know you in the internet(in many forums), know it's useless to argue with you. You don't accept anything that is different from your opinion, and insult anyone that disagree with you.

I accept when I've lost an argument.
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But, you see, no one seems to agree with you on this. I've done this thread on numerous forums and, GASP, most people side with Akuma.

So, it doesn't seem to be just me.

 

[The Crystal]

I accept when I've lost an argument.
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But, you see, no one seems to agree with you on this. I've done this thread on numerous forums and, GASP, most people side with Akuma.

So, it doesn't seem to be just me.

Akuma is very popular, so i'm not surprised that some people side with him. And a few people in the internet readed the FFVII books and interviews with the creators, meaning that most of them are ignorant about Sephiroth's true power.

And no, you don't accept when you lost an argument. This is one of the reasons why you are banned from some forums.

 

[Nikkolas]

Akuma is very popular, so i'm not surprised that some people side with him.

He's not more popular than Sephiroth.

And no, you don't accept when you lost an argument. This is one of the reasons why you are banned from some forums.

Name these forums I'm banned from and show me the mod saying "banned for not accepting he lost an argument" written somewhere.

I can name ALL my bannings in recent memory.

And NONE of them involve the reason you just said.

And a few people in the internet readed the FFVII books and interviews with the creators, meaning that most of them are ignorant about Sephiroth's true power.

We saw his true power. It was defeated by Cloud. Cloud's attack is not as powerful as Akuma's. End of story.

Hell, Crystal, I only know you're on one other forum with me and that's EoFF so I don't know how you can be talking about me being banned from multiple forums for not giving up on an argument.

 

[The Crystal]

He's not more popular than Sephiroth.

Name these forums I'm banned from and show me the mod saying "banned for not accepting he lost an argument" written somewhere.

I can name ALL my bannings in recent memory.

And NONE of them involve the reason you just said.

We saw his true power. It was defeated by Cloud. Cloud's attack is not as powerful as Akuma's. End of story.

Hell, Crystal, I only know you're on one other forum with me and that's EoFF so I don't know how you can be talking about me being banned from multiple forums for not giving up on an argument.

If you believe the attack that killed someone much more powerful than Akuma will ever be, is weaker than Akuma's attack, so be it. Everyone know that you are here just to bash FFVII anyway, and it's useless to try to change your mind. Your opinion is a fact, and anyone that disagree with you, or that dislike Kuja or Id and like FFVII, is an idiot.

The fact you was banned from other forums, show the type of person you are. And most of these bannings happened, because of your insults against people that disagreed with your biased opinion.

And that's enough. I'm tired of talking with you.

 

[Nikkolas]

No. They happened because one board was run by assholes who persecuted me for my likings in a manner I won't discuss.

On another, i was banned for insulting someone, yes...after that person came into my topic and insulted me. Not even to post on the topic at hand. Just to attack me.

So, yeah, I've been banned for allt eh reasons you know because you're all-knowing.

As for Cloud's attack, did it destroy any islands? No? Then it's weaker than Akuma. Can it send someone's soul to Hell? Then it's weaker than Akuma.

 

[new orleans boy]

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