How do you think Obama is doing

[GBJoker]

All right, then I'll explain, since you're either being blatantly difficult or just plain don't see it. Hawai'i became a state in 1959. Thus he was born on American soil, not in a current or former territory. Which leads to...

Okay, I'll explain, since you're being either difficult or unable to comprehend it, or whatever. I JUST PROVED HE IS A CITIZEN, therefore, why does he not just show his birth certificate and make the entire argument a waste of time? The only possible explanation is there is something on the birth certificate that he doesn't want any one to know about.

... this. He was born in the states. But let's say he wasn't. Because she was born in Kansas to Americans, that makes her an American citizen. And as I have already said in this thread, that means it doesn't matter where Obama was born. He's a citizen.

Assuming that he is born outside of US states and territories, his mother being a citizen does not make him a citizen unless he was under the age of 18 by the time 1995 rolled around, and that bill passed.

 

[CassinoChips]

Okay, I'll explain, since you're being either difficult or unable to comprehend it, or whatever. I JUST PROVED HE IS A CITIZEN, therefore, why does he not just show his birth certificate and make the entire argument a waste of time? The only possible explanation is there is something on the birth certificate that he doesn't want any one to know about.

If you just proved he's a citizen, why should he have to?

Assuming that he is born outside of US states and territories, his mother being a citizen does not make him a citizen unless he was under the age of 18 by the time 1995 rolled around, and that bill passed.

Incorrect, according to the State Department. Italics mine.

"Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child."

 

[GBJoker]

If you just proved he's a citizen, why should he have to?

Because... It's a requirement to run for presidency? That'd be my first guess.

Also, "If the president does it, it's not illegal."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_count_my_time_because_im_the_president.html

Not to mention boring us to death:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7041663.ece

 

[CassinoChips]

Because... It's a requirement to run for presidency? That'd be my first guess.

But if you just proved he's a citizen, doesn't that mean... he's a citizen? Thus he fulfills the requirement? And if you and I can figure that out, why can't the (R) whackjobs who brought this irrelevant garbage up to begin with?

Did Mitt Romney have to prove his citizenship? Did Hilary Clinton? Did Ron Paul? Why does Obama, especially considering all the evidence shows he was born in one of the 50 states, as were each of the other candidates, save McCain?

Also, the Obama campaign produced a certificate of live birth in 2007 showing that Obama was born in Hawai'i.

 

[GBJoker]

But if you just proved he's a citizen, doesn't that mean... he's a citizen? Thus he fulfills the requirement? And if you and I can figure that out, why can't the (R) whackjobs who brought this irrelevant garbage up to begin with?

Did Mitt Romney have to prove his citizenship? Did Hilary Clinton? Did Ron Paul? Why does Obama, especially considering all the evidence shows he was born in one of the 50 states, as were each of the other candidates, save McCain?

McCain didn't? Eh, I didn't vote him either anyways...

And maybe... Just maybe, the Republicans were and still slightly are bringing this "irrelevant garbage" up is because every president before Pres. Obama had to prove their citizenship.

Also, the Obama campaign produced a certificate of live birth in 2007 showing that Obama was born in Hawai'i.

I'd like to see that. A youtube clip, random online news article, anything.

 

[CassinoChips]

And maybe... Just maybe, the Republicans were and still slightly are bringing this "irrelevant garbage" up is because every president before Pres. Obama had to prove their citizenship.

Did they? Show me. Considering that three previous U.S. Presidents also had fathers who were British citizens at the time of their birth, I'd like to see the media firestorms those set off.

I'd like to see that. A youtube clip, random online news article, anything.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

 

[GBJoker]

Did they? Show me. Considering that three previous U.S. Presidents also had fathers who were British citizens at the time of their birth, I'd like to see the media firestorms those set off.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Fine fine fine, I'll quiet down about that one thing.

I will be back though, with more news.

 

[xXOtakuMasterXx]

i couldn't even get past page one so ok look every one how can you expect obama to clean up 8 years worth of F---ing up the econemy that bush did in one year be realistic about even if the next 5 presidents where awsome presidents that are the ones truely qualifyd for the job it whould only put a scratch on the econemy issue we are so in debt with other countrys becuse of the "BORROWING" we did when "BUSH" was in office that got us into debt in the first place did you ever notice that when people like bill clinton was in office how gas and abortions where at an all time "LOW"? on top of that the so called "RIGHT" wing party dont seem to be able to think strate becuse the people that use to be able to call them selvs middle class but can't any more do to the job issue are all but about homeless ifact that is the next step down from what they are at the rich will one day realize "whait no ones buying any more??" and the assistant will say : "thats correct apprentlt all of there mony they do have is going twords there home payments and cannot afford to buy what we sell."

and if any of you think other wise then you may just be more shelterd than my brother adam (if you met him you would see what i mean.) or your probly just some spoild rich kid who thinks im getting everything i whant so ill follow them as much as possible so can get my way.

 

[GBJoker]

i couldn't even get past page one so ok look every one how can you expect obama to clean up 8 years worth of F---ing up the econemy that bush did in one year be realistic about even if the next 5 presidents where awsome presidents that are the ones truely qualifyd for the job it whould only put a scratch on the econemy issue we are so in debt with other countrys becuse of the "BORROWING" we did when "BUSH" was in office that got us into debt in the first place did you ever notice that when people like bill clinton was in office how gas and abortions where at an all time "LOW"? on top of that the so called "RIGHT" wing party dont seem to be able to think strate becuse the people that use to be able to call them selvs middle class but can't any more do to the job issue are all but about homeless ifact that is the next step down from what they are at the rich will one day realize "whait no ones buying any more??" and the assistant will say : "thats correct apprentlt all of there mony they do have is going twords there home payments and cannot afford to buy what we sell."

and if any of you think other wise then you may just be more shelterd than my brother adam (if you met him you would see what i mean.) or your probly just some spoild rich kid who thinks im getting everything i whant so ill follow them as much as possible so can get my way.

I'm, going to ignore for a fact that you don't know that CONGRESS controls the spending of the government, not presidents.

Not to mention that most of the spending done during President W Bush's years were after the 2006 election, when democrats controlled congress.

And if you want to know who really messed up the economy, watch a movie:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

Please respect my views. I'm not saying don't respond, but don't get angry.

Anyway, to be honest, I didn't expect very much from our new president. Or any president for that matter. With our political system the way it is, with two parties, I don't think we can get anywhere. All both sides seem to want to do is fight and fight. Neither want to listen.

Now on to Obama. He hasn't done nearly what he said he would do. But it's only been a year. Well, when you campaign on change and you make it seem like it's going to be instant, of course people are going to get mad about it not happening. When you waste your time on health care, something that's likely to get overturned anyway, instead of on helping our people find jobs, you deserve some criticism.

You can say that our former president is responsible for some of it, but that's no better than supporters of our former president did to our former former president. Do you see a cycle? It's always somebody else's fault, isn't it? Why don't we stop trying to point fingers and actually do something?

I want Universal Healthcare, but I was realistic about it. I knew it wasn't going to happen. Too many people don't understand it. Politicians use fear tatics to help people who "donate" money to them. They don't care about us until two months from re election.

So, in short, I'm not disapointed in our president, because I never had any hope for him to do anything in the first place. Mind you, I don't think Mccain and Palin would've done any better. We need to rework our political system and stop trying to blame something we need to fix. If we did, then maybe we would finally get some good people in office.