^ But we'll all be forced to hunt Manbearpig!
But yeah, Bush, I can't wait till his time is up in office.
But yeah, Bush, I can't wait till his time is up in office.
Are we advancing our goal of a 'Better Earth?'
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Nothing more than a year, yea?
I hope his successors do a better job domestically and internationally regarding the environmental problem.
As for Iraq, we can only guess.
I hope his successors do a better job domestically and internationally regarding the environmental problem.
As for Iraq, we can only guess.
Senor Senior
Banned
Umm, no we're really not. The vast majority of Americans only waste their precious brain cells thinking about how to make the earth a better place if they have nothing else to do. And when I say "nothing" what I really mean is "nothing".
American Joe would rather sit at his couch with his 50 inch, high definition plasma television on and blasting a sad, sad excuse for an actual concert by that god awful "Bjork" rather than get off of his fat behind to grab the remote that's less than two feet away and change the channel or goddess forbid, turn it off. Even if they hate whatever is on the television, the opposite of the vast minority (that's the vast majority) of Americans would opt to leave on television, just so they would have an excuse not to think about what a complete failure their lives are for one moment.
If an American is out and about, and just finishes a snack, they'd rather toss the wrapper or their used napkin discreetly aside, on the streets, filling them with litter, rather than waiting the few extra moments until they reached a trash receptacle to properly get rid of their waste.
The point that I'm trying to make is, if you're an American, and you're consciously making an effort to make the world you live in a better place, then the sad fact of reality is, that you're alone. Very, very alone. Everybody else around you is too busy trying to achieve what they believe to be their "American Dream". And the best way they can get there is by indulging in practices which lead us away from what you accept as "a better world".
Thank you, that's the word, and it has been brought to you by Just Blaze and The Blazzettes.
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
OmniscientOnus
Blue Mage
With the simple exception of medicine I don't think we've done a single thing good for this planet for at least the past 100 years, most likely more.
There once was a time where a man made his own destiny. Not anymore. Say, back before every bit of land was "claimed" by one ruling form of government or another, a man could choose to... well, live off the land. I'm going to break my opinion down into a few categories that, while mention some of the bigger issues, don't come close to completing my thoughts on the subject.
First of all, lets give the example of housing.
There was a time where a man could chop down any tree he wanted to collect the lumber needed to build his own house. There were no forest protection laws... because they weren't necessary. He could build his house however he felt necessary, with no real zoning laws or codes or size restrictions. He could make it however he saw fit. And best of all, not only did his house reflect himself, but it had the potential to be as grand as that man had motivation. In other words, if he wanted to build a mansion, and he had the willpower, a mansion he could have, without having to pay a dime for it. And at the end of the day no man but himself could call it theirs. There was no repossession... with the exception of battles.
Then theirs food.
There were no preservatives, artificial flavoring, Yellow Die #5, or the likes. Food was food. It was real, and it was healthy.
My final little rant is regarding freedom.
You can say that we are free men now, but you would be lying. We have no real freedoms anymore. If I "choose" not to work, let's say, then the government forces me to the streets. I can't just go cut down some trees, gather some friends, build my house, till my soil, and live off my own means. No, instead I must hand over my money to a power that I don't agree with in order to be able to live the lifestyle that I see fit for myself. Unfortunately, in order to do that I have to spend a good portion of my life at work, which I don't want to do. Working for me is one thing, working for "them" is another.
And that's a single aspect of it. There's much more to consider, but there's always one common theme. Someone else forces me to hand over a portion of my own toils in order to continue to live my life. If I refuse to hand over what I have labored to gain, then I become a criminal. There is no justice, nor freedom in that.
No, the times when the Earth was still mostly unexplored, and I could travel with friends to an unknown area and live my life in peace are gone. We are now forced to live in accordance with someone else's laws, and that my friends, is just plain sick.
Freedom is nothing more than a memory, a lost idea if you will, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
There once was a time where a man made his own destiny. Not anymore. Say, back before every bit of land was "claimed" by one ruling form of government or another, a man could choose to... well, live off the land. I'm going to break my opinion down into a few categories that, while mention some of the bigger issues, don't come close to completing my thoughts on the subject.
First of all, lets give the example of housing.
There was a time where a man could chop down any tree he wanted to collect the lumber needed to build his own house. There were no forest protection laws... because they weren't necessary. He could build his house however he felt necessary, with no real zoning laws or codes or size restrictions. He could make it however he saw fit. And best of all, not only did his house reflect himself, but it had the potential to be as grand as that man had motivation. In other words, if he wanted to build a mansion, and he had the willpower, a mansion he could have, without having to pay a dime for it. And at the end of the day no man but himself could call it theirs. There was no repossession... with the exception of battles.
Then theirs food.
There were no preservatives, artificial flavoring, Yellow Die #5, or the likes. Food was food. It was real, and it was healthy.
My final little rant is regarding freedom.
You can say that we are free men now, but you would be lying. We have no real freedoms anymore. If I "choose" not to work, let's say, then the government forces me to the streets. I can't just go cut down some trees, gather some friends, build my house, till my soil, and live off my own means. No, instead I must hand over my money to a power that I don't agree with in order to be able to live the lifestyle that I see fit for myself. Unfortunately, in order to do that I have to spend a good portion of my life at work, which I don't want to do. Working for me is one thing, working for "them" is another.
And that's a single aspect of it. There's much more to consider, but there's always one common theme. Someone else forces me to hand over a portion of my own toils in order to continue to live my life. If I refuse to hand over what I have labored to gain, then I become a criminal. There is no justice, nor freedom in that.
No, the times when the Earth was still mostly unexplored, and I could travel with friends to an unknown area and live my life in peace are gone. We are now forced to live in accordance with someone else's laws, and that my friends, is just plain sick.
Freedom is nothing more than a memory, a lost idea if you will, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Senor Senior
Banned
Not true. I've been places where the manner of living you've described still exists. That sort of freedom can still be had, you just have to search for it.
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
It's hard to find true freedom.
It'll take most of your life, and most likely you'll end up with the illusion of freedom, but you'll be sorely disappointed in the end.
But like Wullfe, I believe that there is a a place of true freedom.
It just doesn't lie within nations themselves or political entities themselves at all. You'll find they have 'rules' and such.
More like in esoteric circles, perhaps?
It'll take most of your life, and most likely you'll end up with the illusion of freedom, but you'll be sorely disappointed in the end.
But like Wullfe, I believe that there is a a place of true freedom.
It just doesn't lie within nations themselves or political entities themselves at all. You'll find they have 'rules' and such.
More like in esoteric circles, perhaps?
Senor Senior
Banned
*Gasp* Warbourne, are you a fan of the drugs, perhaps?
Warm regards,
Warm regards,
...........
<---------------------- I shan't say more
Just kidding, of course not.
The 60's seemed to find peace and freedom. Maybe we should try that, minus the drugs and other stuff.
<---------------------- I shan't say more
Just kidding, of course not.
The 60's seemed to find peace and freedom. Maybe we should try that, minus the drugs and other stuff.
OmniscientOnus
Blue Mage
But where am I to get the money to search for such a place? Surely, I can't just walk around (or swim, climb, etc...) all over Earth just to find this place without money.
And how can I search for it if I have to work to get the money to search for the place? It's a never ending circle, carefully guarded by our world leaders...
Senor Senior
Banned
All you've managed to do is cite excuses as to why you can't find your promised land. If you truly lusted after such a place, then all those things you mentioned would stop you. Sure, they might impede your progress, it might be a tough trek, but nothing having in this life is easy to gain. In the end, if you managed to overcome all those trials, you would enjoy the fruits of your labor that much more...
Where there's a will, there's a way. I can't give you all of the answers, but if you really wanted something, then you would get it. You have to figure out for yourself who to attain what you're searching for. My friend Warbourne indulges himself in the graces of drugs to find his freedom, I myself take time out every year to travel back to the land of my origins. You have to find what works for you.
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
I agree wholeheartedly.
Sure it's going to be long trek, but money really shouldn't be all that important. You can trek all around the world with minimal funding, I assume. It's just not going to be comfortable doing so. But, like Wullfe says, nothing is easy to attain. It's all about strife and determination, and if you can find peace, it's most likely to be different from everyone else, just like how everyone is different in the first place.
And wot's this?
Sure it's going to be long trek, but money really shouldn't be all that important. You can trek all around the world with minimal funding, I assume. It's just not going to be comfortable doing so. But, like Wullfe says, nothing is easy to attain. It's all about strife and determination, and if you can find peace, it's most likely to be different from everyone else, just like how everyone is different in the first place.
And wot's this?
Senor Senior
Banned
Oh nothing. I was just mentioning how I travel to my home country every year to find my form of freedom. 
*Halo*
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
*Halo*Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
Senor Senior
Banned
agreed with all of the above. This is a very good thread. I like posts where people have an decent debate and come up with valid reasons.
^ Spam FTW.
What's your opinion, Sladey?
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
He agrees with all of our stuff, of course. 
Senor Senior
Banned
Nargh. That can't be it, since we have contradictory opinions and opposing viewpoints.
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe
Warm regards,
~The Legendary Wullfe