Should we Give Aid?

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Tidus Blade

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Ive seen a lot of debate over this subject, Should we give aid to the people worse off than ourselves?
Some people ignorantly answered with such stuff as, "We got enough problems of our own", "They are used to bad conditions" and "The more aid we give, the less they will help themselves".
I think we should help the worse off then us because we should always help people who are worse off than ourselves, and that since we live in the same world, we might as well help our own race and kind, people are so selfish these days.
 
I don't see anything wrong with helping those less fortunate than ourselves. However, I tend to have some ... problems with certain people.

3rd world countries, I heartilly agree with giving money, you see conditions on the telly, you know how bad things are, you can't escape from those facts. However, I'd never give money to people, begging on our streets. I find their problems self inflicted, and I can't help but wonder where the money goes, be it towards their next joint or actually to their only cup of tea they'll have in a week. It doesn't take a lot to pick themselves up and take themselves to institutes, or to hostiles or anything else like that. There is absolutely NO need to be sitting on the streets with your head in your legs. It annoys me most when you see 16 year olds on the street. I always think they're just saving up for their newest dress or whatever.

But anyway, I do agree with helping those who *NEED/WANT* help at the same time.
 
I agree with helping people with their problems in life.
Helping others to control there fear.
But helping with money...It whould help them if they use it wisely.
Not wasting it in such foolishness
 
i know that some people get a salary which is more that enough, and the money left is spent uselessly, or wasted without notice
so why don't they at least give some, even a little money would help a person
and it isn't very expensive and i don't see a problem with donating money to the poor instead of buying boxes of cigarettes, or saving up for things that you totally don't need.

Helping others isn't the hardest thing in life if you have lots of money
so you might as well do
 
Oh, I forgot to mention: it really get's me riled up when you see celebrities encouraging you to give money. They have millions, why not spare a few hundred thousand, eh?!

Take Bill Gates, for example. If he used 10 minutes of his income to give to charity, he could clear a hefty size of 3rd world debt. And yet, we middle-class people are still told to give money. Why don't YOU do it for once!?
 
Riku said:
I don't see anything wrong with helping those less fortunate than ourselves. However, I tend to have some ... problems with certain people.

3rd world countries, I heartilly agree with giving money, you see conditions on the telly, you know how bad things are, you can't escape from those facts. However, I'd never give money to people, begging on our streets. I find their problems self inflicted, and I can't help but wonder where the money goes, be it towards their next joint or actually to their only cup of tea they'll have in a week. It doesn't take a lot to pick themselves up and take themselves to institutes, or to hostiles or anything else like that. There is absolutely NO need to be sitting on the streets with your head in your legs. It annoys me most when you see 16 year olds on the street. I always think they're just saving up for their newest dress or whatever.

But anyway, I do agree with helping those who *NEED/WANT* help at the same time.
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Most beggars, are just lazy people who sit down anywhere and start begging, most of them can just stand up and find a job, while some 1 legged , 1 armed man probably couldnt do much, he can still get a non-physical job. People living in third world countries really need that money since there aren't many job opportunities there. Clean Water is scarce and there are food shortages. While beggars in developed countries can get free clean water from water fountains around the city or by drinking tap water, but the tap water back in their home is dirty and free water is very rare. Food is available cheaply in developed countries in supermarkets and anyone can just go and buy. So if a beggar can get a job in a developed country, he can use that money he earns to buy the food he needs and use the tap water. While jobs in third world countries dont pay much so many of them immigrate to developed countries to get a job easily, and immigrants do the jobs locals dont want to do, like in the US, most poor jobs are probably done by immigrants from Mexico etc. (correct me if im wrong but i haven't studied much about the US and haven't lived there).

Riku said:
Oh, I forgot to mention: it really get's me riled up when you see celebrities encouraging you to give money. They have millions, why not spare a few hundred thousand, eh?!

Take Bill Gates, for example. If he used 10 minutes of his income to give to charity, he could clear a hefty size of 3rd world debt. And yet, we middle-class people are still told to give money. Why don't YOU do it for once!?
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It is true they got loads of money but it's being spent on extra-expensive cars, houses, deals, luxury, entertainment and their own wishes. I recall some celebrities who donated pretty much alot, like that concert they had some time back i think in 2004 and bands and singers would join in and all ticket sales would go to charity, and there were many ticket sales. And recently I heard that some owner of a big computer company donated alot of computers to schools in India to help them, arent 10,000 PC's were sent to verious schools and the sender hoped it would attract more buyers from India.
 
I think it’s our duty as human beings to help those that are poorer or weaker than us who can’t help it. I agree that some people are just begging because they are lazy, etc. but there are a lot of people who are genuinely down on their luck. Not everyone who’s poor earned life like that. Some kids are born into poor families and without the assistance of others they would continue the cycle. What to do?

Break the cycle I say. Why save up your cash to buy a fancier car when you could pay for the drinking water of a small village? Why save your money so you can go on a vacation to Bermuda when you can pay for the medical supplies to save the lives of a dozen children? Why are we such selfish creatures who care only about getting the latest console or designer clothes when other human beings are DYING?!

Do I donate all my money to a charity? No. I admit that by working hard I managed to get to a good job and I’m loathe to give up all the luxuries that brings. But I think I would be half the person I was if I didn’t give at least some of my money to charities from time to time. I can afford to forgo that video game or that meal in a fancy restaurant—but the child going hungry cannot.

I think anyone who thinks differently ought to be shipped off to one of these third-world countries and made to live their lives. Might give ‘em a change of heart, I bet.
 
Dragonsoul said:

Do I donate all my money to a charity? No. I admit that by working hard I managed to get to a good job and I’m loathe to give up all the luxuries that brings. But I think I would be half the person I was if I didn’t give at least some of my money to charities from time to time. I can afford to forgo that video game or that meal in a fancy restaurant—but the child going hungry cannot.
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Good point there DS, Even by just donating 1% of your income (for example it's $1500), your donating $15 and feeding 3 people for a day or a person for three days. If rich people like celebrities (for example earn $3million), they are donating $30000, thats could help a whole village! It could feed 10,000 people for a day! And that would be just 1%. If they donated even just 10% it would make a gigantic impact. If every celebrity does it, thats billions everyday. If everyone donates to the poorer people, There probably wouldn't be any more poverty! But unfortunetly the world isint that perfect and people are extremly selfish and greedy.
 
Tidus Blade said:
Good point there DS, Even by just donating 1% of your income (for example it's $1500), your donating $15 and feeding 3 people for a day or a person for three days. If rich people like celebrities (for example earn $3million), they are donating $30000, thats could help a whole village! It could feed 10,000 people for a day! And that would be just 1%. If they donated even just 10% it would make a gigantic impact. If every celebrity does it, thats billions everyday. If everyone donates to the poorer people, There probably wouldn't be any more poverty! But unfortunetly the world isint that perfect and people are extremly selfish and greedy.
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Oh my god ! never noticed that point
and also if the poorer people save up they might have enough to buy clothes, or maybe a ticket to somewhere where they can get even a bad job that pays low and if you do that, they will be very, very happy proud of what they got thanks to the people/person who donated a little of their money

and if people help people that is a really good thing that will make the person receiving that help happy and might have a chance to be equal with other and he/she will be able to help his/her family from starving to death

dunno why people are really greedy these days...
and if lets say everyone in US donated even a dollar or two, that will help more than they think
 
Tidus Blade said:
Most beggars, are just lazy people who sit down anywhere and start begging, most of them can just stand up and find a job, while some 1 legged , 1 armed man probably couldnt do much, he can still get a non-physical job. People living in third world countries really need that money since there aren't many job opportunities there. Clean Water is scarce and there are food shortages. While beggars in developed countries can get free clean water from water fountains around the city or by drinking tap water, but the tap water back in their home is dirty and free water is very rare. Food is available cheaply in developed countries in supermarkets and anyone can just go and buy. So if a beggar can get a job in a developed country, he can use that money he earns to buy the food he needs and use the tap water. While jobs in third world countries dont pay much so many of them immigrate to developed countries to get a job easily, and immigrants do the jobs locals dont want to do, like in the US, most poor jobs are probably done by immigrants from Mexico etc. (correct me if im wrong but i haven't studied much about the US and haven't lived there).
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I agree with that, but the way you quoted me, it was as if you were arguing with me ;)


Tidus Blade said:
It is true they got loads of money but it's being spent on extra-expensive cars, houses, deals, luxury, entertainment and their own wishes.
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You almost sound as if you're justifying them :P

As for the other points you made, you're quite right, but Band Aid was only 2004 and 198x before that. If it was annually, or even every 6 months, it would make a better difference.
 
Riku said:
As for the other points you made, you're quite right, but Band Aid was only 2004 and 198x before that. If it was annually, or even every 6 months, it would make a better difference.
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It dosent matter, but since every bit counts, and Ban Aid was a very large concert, I dunno how much it raised but Im pretty sure it raised alot of money to give the poor, and the best part was that all the money was spent on charity.
 
Of course. A lot of these countries need our help, but a lot of the time, I think our own issues are ignored more and more each day.
 
Riku said:
What "doesn't matter"?
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It dosent matter if it's held every year or every 6 years, since every bit helps.
Judge Ghis said:
Of course. A lot of these countries need our help, but a lot of the time, I think our own issues are ignored more and more each day.
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What do you mean by our own issues?
 
Riku said:
That was self-implied, was it not?


Divorce. Marriage. Life. Death. Abortion and Pregnancy. Failure. Debt. Presure. You get the idea?
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I thought you said the concert happened in 2004 and 1998, turned it is was 198X so I got mixed up, I rely on my memory too much, but even in that case, every bit helps.

I know we got many problems of our own, but how long does it take to take out your wallet, take out a note or a coin and drop it in a charity box? not much:P
 
No, I do see the point that Ghis brought up and Riku is elaborating on. Developed countries often send aid to other countries when their own citizens are suffering. In Canada there is a twenty precent child poverty rate--to me, that's absurd. We are one of the richer countries in the world and every fifth kid is going to school on an empty stomach and without proper clothing. We need to donate both to the outisde world and closer to home. Donations in general need to go up significantly or every time you take a breath some will die of a preventable cause (lack of food, lack of clean drinking water, lack of medicine, etc.).
 
I think it's the principal, sometimes. If you find it difficult to get out of bed some mornings, because nothing is going your way, the last thing you'd think about is donating money to whatever charity advert was on telly that day.

Take for example, my mum. She's been experiencing many health difficulties over the years and this year has been really bad for her. I'd prefer not to elaborate on that, but she feels so bad some days that she just stays in the house and cries. Now, with all due respect, I could care less right now what happens to other people. The main concern for my family right now is trying to stay positive, never mind helping someone else.

So, taking this example, it really can be just "that hard" to put some money in the charity box.
 
Dragonsoul said:
No, I do see the point that Ghis brought up and Riku is elaborating on. Developed countries often send aid to other countries when their own citizens are suffering. In Canada there is a twenty precent child poverty rate--to me, that's absurd. We are one of the richer countries in the world and every fifth kid is going to school on an empty stomach and without proper clothing. We need to donate both to the outisde world and closer to home. Donations in general need to go up significantly or every time you take a breath some will die of a preventable cause (lack of food, lack of clean drinking water, lack of medicine, etc.).
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A country should take care of it's own poverty before others, I said to donate to a charity, not a third world charity, just any charity, could be a worldwide charity, a local charity, a national charity.
Riku said:
I think it's the principal, sometimes. If you find it difficult to get out of bed some mornings, because nothing is going your way, the last thing you'd think about is donating money to whatever charity advert was on telly that day.

Take for example, my mum. She's been experiencing many health difficulties over the years and this year has been really bad for her. I'd prefer not to elaborate on that, but she feels so bad some days that she just stays in the house and cries. Now, with all due respect, I could care less right now what happens to other people. The main concern for my family right now is trying to stay positive, never mind helping someone else.

So, taking this example, it really can be just "that hard" to put some money in the charity box.
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As ive already said, you should take care of your own problems too, if you got a very sick relative and he's a little short of paying for his operation, you should give him that money, im not saying to donate to others and forget about your problems, anyone would care more for their own family than some family that he never met. But then if I see a man who is almost going to die of starvation, ill gladly give him some money to buy himself some food, you might or might not, whatever mood im in, ill donate if I got the money with me, but everyone is diffrent.
 
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