Are we advancing our goal of a 'Better Earth?'

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How far do you think we are in terms of achieving our 'goal' of creating a better earth?

I personally think that we are doing a lot as a people but it is just enough.
I mean, we are constantly trying to create better fuels, better relations with other nations, better 'systems', basically better everything. We try to better our medicinal capabilities, and we improve upon our space exploration.
But, contrasting that are the recent events in the Middle East, the sad events with the 'Invisible Children' in Africa, and others, I believe that we are doing just enough, or even slightly lower.

The fact is, at least we are doing something.
What do you guys think?
 
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I actually thought that the Industrial Revolution helped things out a bit by not helping us out at all.
If that doesn't make sense.... then, consider this.

We wouldn't be intensely pursuing advancement of ecology and conservation if it wasn't for the Industrial Revolution --- the pollution it created was the starting point for opening the minds of our generation and the generation before us.
What I could say is that we made a drop but we're now just only realizing that what we need to do is improve our home.

Currently, it's not enough because business basically controls our lives and because they hinder our advancement, i.e. take the tobacco, oil industries, in these fields.
 
Better Earth = No human population.

Yes, we interfere with the Earth so much that soon enough, we'll make it far worse. With all our temptations and jealous rage, along with envy and lust, we will in no time make it horrible. With each passing day, it tends to get worse and worse. To top it off, the concept of Original Sin and religion = Bad.


Therefore, we are falling into a deeper and deeper hole.
 
Unfortunately, it's quite possibly a hole that we might never get out of.
But that's a thing for future generations.......I pity the stuff they have to do to clean....I mean, hide this mess that we've made.

I'm just hoping Earth doesn't resemble the Earth in FFSW.
 
at some points in history Earth has experienced good and bad... good stuff are not permanent and the bad things just thesame... its just a cycle... a perfect Earth or a really good one is impossible. Its been that way for thousands of years
 
Then with that said, are you perfectly content with the world we have now, or would you wish for a better one?
 
Im content now, but offcourse i would want a better one... and once its a better one, I would still want a better one and so on... its like millionaires wanting more money, you always want more... The worlds never gonna be perfect so yeah, I am content although it can be better. The war in Iraq, all the other things in the world will not last forever, just like everything else that happened... look at Northern Ireland for example, some improvements there... the Roman Empire, was once like todays USA, look what happened ... back in the day it was the christians killing Muslims in crusades, now its the other way around...well judging from the media... the world changes
 
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That's right, like you said, it is a cycle.
The thing is, technology just isn't gonna cut it for us, because like you said, we're just gonna want more and more and more.

But I think that technology benefits us more than it hurts us, I mean, medical advances equals longer lifespans, automated weaponry renders loss of massive human life mostly a thing of the past.
I just hope that we use that advantage to our advantage, as a people I mean.
 
^ eventually that could lead to overpopulation... but thats just a possiblity, therefore, we would use more resources.

But yeah, technology is doing more harm than good, BUT, Nuclear weapons are the things that can totally cancel all the technological achievments out... thats the catch
 
Unless of course we develop more powerful weapons --- which I believe is inevitable, or, we develop superior defense systems.

Either way, those would destroy the planet as we know it.
So....thank goodness to cold feet.
Nuclear winter could've happened decades ago if it wasn't for the fact that the superpowers kept building and building more powerful weapons, so much so that the standoff just kept going because either side was afraid that the other would retaliate and wipe them off the face of the planet.

Of course, what planet would that be if we all fired nukes at each other?
 
^ yeah ironically the fact that the superpowers are striving for more powerful weapons is preserving life on earth... If only the manhattan project never happened... or if only hitler died in the first world war, maybe there would be so much controversy in building nuclear weapons because back in WW2, it was needed to stop the war, and because it succesfully did, superpowers are making sure they have there own WMD's...
 
Or the fact that Pres. Truman (president after FDR died in 1945) could've prevented the dropping of the bomb in the first place, because he was indeed flirting with that possibility, he only chose it because of the statistics of death:kill ratio.
Unfortunately, look at where it gets us now.


Alternate history: Or if Pres. Truman got into office when the war was over.
Things weren't even that good then because of the depression and whatnot.
But all the stuff that was destroyed in that war planted the seeds for todays efforts in preventing war and whatever, or at least making sure that the earth doesn't decay as rapidly as we are destroying it, i.e. prevention of war, UN, etc.
 
Warbourne said:
I actually thought that the Industrial Revolution helped things out a bit by not helping us out at all.
If that doesn't make sense.... then, consider this.

We wouldn't be intensely pursuing advancement of ecology and conservation if it wasn't for the Industrial Revolution --- the pollution it created was the starting point for opening the minds of our generation and the generation before us.
What I could say is that we made a drop but we're now just only realizing that what we need to do is improve our home.

Currently, it's not enough because business basically controls our lives and because they hinder our advancement, i.e. take the tobacco, oil industries, in these fields.
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If the Industrial Revolution had never happened, we wouldn't NEED to worry about the Earth.
 
OverFjell said:
If the Industrial Revolution had never happened, we wouldn't NEED to worry about the Earth.
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Meh, that's mostly true.

People were already killing off different species and driving them to extinction.
The Industrial revolution escalated the need for products like beef, whale oil, and etc.
But the Industrial Revolution also provided different jobs, increasing the labor force, therefore increasing the awareness that people had about the world about them.
I think of it as a catalyst actually, just speeding up the way we think.

If the Industrial Revolution never happened, we'd probably still be killing off more but at a slower rate, and therefore, it would take us longer to figure out that what we are doing is bad for Earth.
 
But... we would lose a minute percentage oil profits if we do that! Billionaire executives might be able to only own FOUR gold plated yachts instead of FIVE! And it would actually involve effort on the part of the American public!

I think a good first step would be to get rid of Bush and his pals as soon as possible. The Republican party has shown that they are thoroughly incompetent at environmental issues, and once we allow people like Al Gore to have some influence on the government, we could start making some actual progress.
 
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