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Well, I wouldn't say it's true, but that doesn't mean you're not necessarily moral. It just means you're not the most moral; maybe we all are equally as moral on this side of religion.

Then we end up with this problem where either nothing is worth teaching because we can't prove anything with absolute certainty (I don't know about math though; proof is actually applicable when it comes to math), or some things are worth teaching because the methods behind them result in useful...

Personally, I think you should do whatever you want on your free time, so if you want to spend a prayer by insulting a religion, by all means go right ahead. What I have a problem with is people coming here and telling people that we should spend more time praying a certain way while not being...

First of all, the statement, "praying to become stronger" in no way indicates what intentions you have for becoming stronger, but it is selfish anyways because you're doing it for yourself (why not instead wish for someone else to be stronger?); if you really wanted to be stronger to help other...

No, but you are praying for your own personal well being, which is selfishness because you don't care if other people get stronger or not. Why should you pray for your own well being rather than someone else's? Precisely because you care more about yourself than you do other people. There's...

Wouldn't you still be praying out of selfishness (and perhaps vanity, I might add)?

I just wanted to point out that that isn't evolution; that's abiogenesis. If abiogenesis were not true, it wouldn't in any way discredit evolution. That's why they're separate.

So you agree that Hitler and god have the same morals? Because that's the last I got out of you. If you disagreed, you haven't fully explained why.

No it wasn't. The constitution was created to protect people's rights for freedom of (or from) religion. That it still persists is through bending of the rules. And if creationism should be taught in schools, then I think people should have a closer look at the constitution in school as well...

And if we are speaking in vain, that's irrelevant; the questions that we have about your arguments still hold. For starters, try actually responding to the idea that Hitler and god have the same morals, since this has everything to do with how you think god is a beacon for morality. But...

Did I specifically say you were ignorant? No, so don't put the words in my mouth. I just said there are enough ignorant Americans, but that doesn't mean I think you're ignorant. As with what Jquestionmark said, it's fine so long as it's teaching about it, and not teaching it. There are...

But then what about separation of church and state? It does exist, right? So if schools are handled at the state level, and separation of church and state exists, then it shouldn't even be teaching religion at all. They can probably teach that the people in the Medieval ages believed in...

So you're saying you're not willing to consider other people's comments about your arguments or opinions? I disagree that Christianity needs more emphasis in history; there are already more than enough ignorant Americans who don't know anything about the cultures outside of them, and it's a...

So what? That's appeal to populace, and that says nothing about whether or not we should keep religion, or whether or not a religious idea should be taught in schools. I'm sure Twilight is a popular novel, but that doesn't mean it has to be taught in your English Literature class. No one is...

And you know what that is? Selfishness. That's what religion encourages, and that's one of the reasons people are drawn to it. It promises something that makes you feel special; you're basically asking god to drop everything he's doing and give you this one thing. Actually, I look at it this...

It's not even a theory (we're talking about creationism, right?); in order for it to classify as a scientific theory, it would have to have at least some evidence backing it up and have been subjected to enough peer review; and while it probably has been subjected to peer review (and failed...

And if you're just here to state your beliefs, then we're not having much of a discussion because then you can't explain why you believe what you believe other than faith, and if we were to discuss whether or not faith is a good basis for belief, that might require a separate thread on it, and...

Being open-minded doesn't mean I have to agree with what someone else is saying. Being open-minded just means I'm willing to consider whether or not what someone else is saying is possible, and of course, the only way we can point out these fallacies in the other arguments would be if we even...

Actually, since you are asserting that vanity causes all forms of immorality, it is your responsibility to convince us of that assertion. Which means you have to show that vanity causes every form of immorality--I just need to come up with one example of immorality that doesn't involve vanity...

I only agree with the opinion part, but not the educated part. And it doesn't matter anyways; I'd be happy if a morally unjust god didn't exist, but that wouldn't be the reason why I believe the Christian god doesn't exist. While failing to address the issues you have over god's problems that...