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  1. The_Oathkeeper

    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    Nope. That was an exaggeration. True...I mean, we don't know how much time passed when the screen flashed white. For all we know, a few seconds could've lapsed during which Seifer simply proved himself quicker to the draw. Come to think of it, upon watching the video again, I've realized...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    In FFVII, Sephiroth was able to use his telekinesis to restrain eight powerful warriors for about a minute or so. The entire party is visibly in pain, Red XIII is just the only one who pointed it out. That pain is the result of his body being pulled apart by Sephiroth's telekinesis. If all he...
  3. The_Oathkeeper

    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    Yeah, you've got me there...It is called Final Fantasy, after all. Still, most things in the series make some sort of logical sense or can at least be explained in some way. What Seifer does just...doesn't make sense. He stands still and cleaves Odin in half with a sword that's nowhere near...
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    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    You could very well say that it was graphical limitations that prevented them from accurately displaying his speed, but don't you think they could've at least shown him in a different position than the one he was in before the attack? I don't see why they'd have him remain perfectly still as...
  5. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    At the end of FFVII, in the North Crater, Sephiroth uses telekinesis to restrain the entire party for a good minute or so. Red XIII even says that it feels as though his body is being physically torn apart. That was when Sephiroth's mental powers were spread amongst eight fighters. Imagine...
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    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    To tell you the truth, it is mainly speculation on my part. I actually heard the idea from someone on the GameFAQ's forums, and it just...made sense to me. I figured, if GF's and Para-Magic really are referred to separately, and we see SeeD Trainees using Para-Magic, then perhaps it really was...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Okay, so he uses his telekinesis once, and he doesn't even use it on Cloud. Sephiroth only used his telekinesis to save himself a few minutes of his time. Tell me, then, Jimmy, if Sephiroth was using his full power during that fight, why didn't he simply restrain Cloud with his telekinesis and...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Last Order is considered obsolete now thanks to Crisis Core. Of course, even in Last Order itself, it's fairly obvious that Sephiroth is incredibly pissed at Zack. At that point, he was just trying to mow down anything that stood between him and JENOVA. He was far too angry to even be...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Genesis has Sephiroth trapped in a sphere of fire and was ready to go in for the kill, which was when Angeal interrupted him. That let Sephiroth get back on his feet, figuratively speaking. And yes, Zack can be better than Genesis despite him being in the same league as Pre-Nibelheim...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    That doesn't change the fact that Bahamut had been fighting for two hours. I'm not saying that he was exhausted by the time Cloud showed up, but he had to have been at least a bit fatigued. Besides, you fail to realize that none of Cloud's basic attacks have any more of an effect on Bahamut...
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    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    Storyline-wise, I'm actually not sure that GF's are required to use Para-Magic at all. Of course I realize that, as far as gameplay is concerned, no one can use standard Magic (under normal circumstances) without a GF Junctioned. However, as far as the storyline is concerned, Para-Magic and...
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    Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

    You have to remember, Seifer was basically a shell of a man by then. He'd lost everything; his pride, his dreams, his place at the Garden, even Fujin and Raijin had abandoned him. Though he might not have shown it, Seifer must've been a bubbling crackpot of emotion at that point. The guy had...
  13. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    He'd been fighting for two hours. That's going to take its toll on him regardless of how much physical damage he'd sustained, if only due to the sheer length of the fight. His stamina was bound to be wearing at least a little bit thin by then, if nothing else, and I'm sure that Crisis AVALANCE...
  14. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Actually, he was fighting an uphill battle against Loz, Kadaj, and Yazoo in the City of the Ancients. If Vincent hadn't intervened, I think Cloud would've been done for. Of course, he did have Goestigma at the time, so I suppose that fight isn't a very good example of his capabilities as a...
  15. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Yes, Cloud kills Sephiroth, but it's not because he's at all superior to him. If Sephiroth were to go all-out against Cloud, I can guarentee that the fight would be over with in a matter of seconds. Fighting against a Sephiroth who actually takes him seriously, Cloud would do no better than...
  16. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    Umm...actually, yeah, that's exactly what Sephiroth does. Not once does he take Cloud seriously while fighting him one-on-one. He leaves himself wide open to attack, fails to make use of his entire range of abilities, refuses to take an opportunity to just end the fight quickly, and simply...
  17. The_Oathkeeper

    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    None of Cloud's victories against Sephiroth can be used as evidence to support his strength. The fact of the matter is, Cloud is really the only person who Sephiroth outright refuses to take seriously. Yes, he always keeps a level head in combat and will rarely make his anger known, but he...
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    Zack vs. Cloud: Who's Stronger?

    I don't think it's really possible to be "wrong" in this case. You could make an argument for either Cloud or Zack and support it with hard facts from the Compilation. That's the only reason why I write them off as equals. I mean, for everyone who says "Zack is better because he beat...
  19. The_Oathkeeper

    Who is the best Final Fantasy villian?

    Okay, I'll give you that much. Though it's a theory that presents very few plotholes when compared to most of the other theories out there, it is still a mere theory. However, even without taking into consideration the fact that Kuja might've destroyed the crystal that gives life...
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    He's ba-aaaaaaaaack...

    Viva La Moonchild- I could make an Airplane! reference, but I won't. That's been done to death many times over. Instead, I'll just say "Indeed" and be done with it. Kuja- Yeah, if it were up to me, I wouldn't have been gone at all, but...what're ya gonna do, eh? Murphy's Law and all that.
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