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Yes, I'm saying Square has always targeted the teenage group and that outgrowing this group is a factor in not liking the newer games since we didn't grow up with them and are more critical. I never said it was the only reason. Note that I said 'may alienate', not 'this is THE reason'. Re-read...

Wrong about what? My only point has been that Square targets a specific age group and people will grow out of it which causes a generation gap, which you have yet to even try to counter, only dodging (yeah, you say it's 'obvious' now, yet you continue to argue) and accusing me of shit I haven't...

Yeah, facebook/mobile games aren't hardcore (we really need a new set of distinctions for hardcore/casual...). The people who play them are technically gamers though, albeit I can't have a conversation with someone who only plays mobile games because we have literally nothing in common to talk...

The fanbase is not black and white. There's a graduation between old and new fans, more like a sliding scale than a yes/no option, and there are subdivisions for fans of each entry in the series. Yes I know that many who were familiar with FF bought XIII - that wasn't something I was arguing...

Gamers are widely spread and there are all kinds. It isn't fair to say 'gamers want action now' or 'they want simple' - that's just too wide of a generalization. Yeah, using sales is fallacious and I shouldn't have made the assumption that sales equate to fans, but the XIII fanbase is not small...

Vaan (Bobby Edner) English: B Japanese: B Fran (Nicole Fantl) English: A Japanese: A Balthier (Gideon Emery) English: S Japanese: A Penelo (Catherine Taber) English: C Japanese: C Ashe (Kari Wahlgren) English: B Japanese: B Basch (Keith Ferguson) English: A Japanese: A Larsa (Johnny...

This is slightly confusing. If it's not an ARPG, then what is it? It doesn't look to be turn-based. Or perhaps the ATB has to fill up after a certain amount of actions are taken.

Saying that I haven't played other games in the series - LOL. Even if I hadn't, my initial point would still be correct. Everything you're complaining about, that's your opinion. Not fact. "13 doesn't have many fans" - you don't have any evidence to back this up. 6 million sales and 2...

No. The standards for an RPG are different today. Yes, we grew out of FF precisely because FF changed to appeal to the newer generation. What you think makes a good FF title is different from what many others today would think. Here's what you've failed to grasp: QUALITY IS RELATIVE. Yes, many...

It has a lot to do with demographics. Square targets teenagers. People in their 20's (that's us) used to be their target audience some years ago, but that isn't the case anymore. People who have been around since the very early FF games, likewise grew out of that audience and we took their...

Yeah, Nintendo has definitely crossed Mario all over the place. Still, the original Mario Bros. formula has withstood the test of time and continues to appeal to a wide age group, and the spinoffs target the same audience despite belonging to different genres. I don't believe SE intentionally...

Ahh I see. My main point is that Square Enix targets a younger demographic than the FF fans in their 20's and onward and have always done so, except perhaps for XII. XII's target demographic is debate-able (I made that statement based off my own interpretations), but my point holds true either...

What? ._. Can you explain how that applies to what I said?

Whoa o_o that is confusing. lol

Square (yes, Squaresoft, not just Square Enix) has always targeted a younger audience, teenagers. This business model doesn't look to change. In Japan, it's considered normal to outgrow video games by the time a child reaches college - that's their culture, though of course the youth is changing...

The official trailer isn't much far removed from the leak. Ah well. Still liking the themes and art style. Luxerion reminds me a bit of Res-o-Fate, but without all the wonky gears blocking everything. Stella Did your username used to be just Fleur? I remember she used a blue font and had a Star...

I think the town looks great because I like its architectural themes and what I've seen of the town layout. Rather than look at things like lighting and texture quality, I look at the visual style and atmosphere. I see the trailer as showcasing the concept rather than polish. It appears you...

Rarely any of the large gaming developers/publishers have a good reputation these days, but SQEnix gets an award for almost universal derision when it comes to the gaming press and the FF fanbase (Western fans at least, I have no idea how the climate in Asia is). For the past five or so years...

Looks like an early build. Nevertheless, the town looks pretty dazzling. Bit of a mood shift from the previous two games, but the XIII saga hasn't been consistent with that so it's par for course. The sequel effect is already full-on this game it seems, people are attacking the video madly all...

The backgrounds look great. I admit I have a bias for buildings, but still. Dat Gothic. Hoping we can go inside them and derp around with the residents.